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uziq
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is your pandemic response still in the ‘if only we had punished china …’ stage? cute.

new zealand have abandoned all pretence of zero covid.

where’s all these great success stories based on the Dilbert Knows Best model?

nope, really. omicron vaccine is in trials this week. antiviral pills are in manufacture. these two things in tandem will deliver us 90% of the way out of the pandemic’s worst effects. the rest will be prudent personal behaviour and well regulated risky events/choke points. that’s it.

no amount of whining about the vaccine’s long-term efficacy will change this picture. it’s here to stay and so is the next 3-5 years of vaccine efforts, at least.

stopping a pandemic scale virus from mutating, that is, pursuing global scale suppression to drastically cut transmission, would require a level of perfect global cooperation the likes of which we have never countenanced as a species. it’s more than a moonshot.

really, relying on the more prosaic forms of shot is much more feasible, mr resident engineering solutions.
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

stopping a pandemic scale virus from mutating, that is, pursuing global scale suppression to drastically cut transmission, would require a level of perfect global cooperation the likes of which we have never countenanced as a species. it’s more than a moonshot.
It wasn't and isn't, we defeated the Nazis and smallpox, this should have been a doddle.
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unnamednewbie13
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Smallpox is a special case. Eradication of COVID-19 through modern vaccination is unlikely. It's been speculated for a long time now that for the foreseeable future, COVID-19 would become endemic, not eradicated. The vaccines exist to reduce the seriousness of infection. Reduce the load on the health care infrastructure. To let us more or less get on with our lives.

Even weirder comparison to the nazis.
SuperJail Warden
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A man claims the University of Virginia Health System is denying him a kidney because he didn't get the COVID shot.

It sparked discussions that led to national news articles, some passionate responses, and GoFundMes that have racked up thousands of dollars.

The patient at the center of it is Shamgar Connors, who says he has stage five kidney failure. Connors says he'd been on the transplant list for three years.

He uploaded a video to YouTube on Jan. 6, which shows a phone recording between him and a UVA doctor. In the recording, the doctor says to be active on the transplant list, Connors would have to get the COVID vaccine.

Connors responded that he'd rather die in the recording.

"I was just trying to prove the point that you're not going to convince me to get this [vaccine] ever. There's nothing on the planet that you're ever going to convince me to say why I should get this," Connors said.

Another suicide. At least he got to go to the renaissance fair before he dies.

Balding maga youtube man talking about the case

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Dilbert_X
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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

stopping a pandemic scale virus from mutating, that is, pursuing global scale suppression to drastically cut transmission, would require a level of perfect global cooperation the likes of which we have never countenanced as a species. it’s more than a moonshot.
It wasn't and isn't, we defeated the Nazis and smallpox, this should have been a doddle.
lmao’d

i’m starting to see a serious flaw in this ‘i’ve read 50 books in my entire life and 35 of those were about ww2’ thing.

you really are just quite a stupid person.

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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

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literally no one else in the world cares about the djokovic case. it was a passing bit of a media fluff that made both djokovic and the australian government look hopelessly stupid and inept. poor show.

but lmao no one gives a fuck about one immigration case.

sports stars and celebrities expect special treatment and try to bend the rules - well colour me stunned!

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SuperJail Warden
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I don't get the people who promote natural immunity as better than vaccination. I don't care if natural immunity is better, I don't want to experience COVID at all.
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Balding maga youtube man talking about the case
I would hardly call Tim Pool a conservative, let alone a MAGA guy. If you actually watched his videos like I used to until I got fed up with him, you would know that.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
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Regardless of what you'd label him, he literally is, whatever tangential linkage he once had to Occupy Wall Street notwithstanding. Dude carries water for Trump and all sorts of fellow rightwing grifters. The only vaguely left thing about him is how often he is publicly owned.
unnamednewbie13
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

A man claims the University of Virginia Health System is denying him a kidney because he didn't get the COVID shot.
<snipsnipsnip>
The youtube comments are sure something that exists online. "May Yahweh smite our enemies," troll or legit belief? It's so hard to tell. I want to believe "troll," even if it is on a dying man's channel.

Taking a look at a list of all the crud he's subscribed to, man. Apart from the usual wild stuff, he's subscribed to "retro cheats." Willing to put a cheat code into a video game, but not get a vaccine so he can get a kidney transplant to "cheat death."

Here's another kidney man:

‘I will die free’: Unvaccinated Burke County man denied kidney transplant by hospital
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/i-wil … T24P5RED4/

It's awe-inspiring to me that this is about "dying free." Big-wig Republicans and conservative anchors (social saboteurs), "champions of freedom," are vaccinated, and "free." Being willing to undergo an invasive transplant procedure, then pretending to be some martyr because you'd rather die than get a routine injection. Trust a doctor with literally replacing your organ, but those vaccines, man, I dunno.

*trusts doctor to transplant organ*
*doctor says immune system will be compromised and you should get vaccinated to increase chance of success*
*alarm bells going off, doctors are death dealers!* "No thanks, I have an immune system!"

Yes you do, snookums, pay attention.

Collective #*& psychosis, zombie-brained with the sheer temerity to call the vaccinated "gullible." The people behind a lot of that 2020 astroturfing (also) have a lot to answer for, though they probably won't.

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unnamednewbie13
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Anti-Vax Cop Who Told Guv to ‘Kiss My Ass’ Dies After Battle With COVID
https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert-la … vid-battle
SuperJail Warden
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Trucker Coup in Canada. Nobody expected this.
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Dilbert_X
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So unvaccinated truckers are demanding the right to cross international borders without a covid test.
Bringing a country to a halt for that seems like a great way to make yourself unpopular.
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uziq
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so most of the world, including your beloved new zealand, are reopening borders now that omicron accounts for 99.9% of new cases worldwide.

i see you're generally pretty quiet about this sort of news.

DiLbERt kNowS bEst
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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Everyone I know who isn't vaxxed now coughs an annoying amount. Daily.
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SuperJail Warden
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It's going to be a while until I stop side glancing at people coughing.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5Wh2pBZKMZalbX2C0hiefyrlWyvuTHGK3FA&amp;usqp=CAU
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unnamednewbie13
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So unvaccinated truckers are demanding the right to cross international borders without a covid test.
Bringing a country to a halt for that seems like a great way to make yourself unpopular.
That's not all they're demanding. Free beer, free meals, free this, free that. "Letting you know ahead of time, we WILL be served free drinks." Businesses have shut down for the threats, including I hear a grocery store.

Where are the police spraying chemicals into everyone's eyes? They were sure eager to hose down actually peaceful BLM protesters in my country at least, but much more eager to fold to a right-wing occupation of a city where everyone becomes part of a hostage crisis.
SuperJail Warden
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Oklahoma City, Waco, Ruby Ridge. They are afraid of the bad PR.
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unnamednewbie13
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I mean fine but do they really have to walk up and shake hands and pat backs?
Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Where are the police spraying chemicals into everyone's eyes? They were sure eager to hose down actually peaceful BLM protesters in my country at least, but much more eager to fold to a right-wing occupation of a city where everyone becomes part of a hostage crisis.
This is Canada though isn't it?
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SuperJail Warden
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A group is trying to do it in America now too. Facebook deleted their page.
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unnamednewbie13
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Dilbert_X wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Where are the police spraying chemicals into everyone's eyes? They were sure eager to hose down actually peaceful BLM protesters in my country at least, but much more eager to fold to a right-wing occupation of a city where everyone becomes part of a hostage crisis.
This is Canada though isn't it?
Yes thank you, I didn't know where Ottawa was for a second. Also thanks for clearing things up on Isildur, lol.

Canada has its own laundry list of structural racism, race and colonial violence (lots of mirroring to the US), general police violence, shootings, beatings, and there are protests against it. Additional run-on of US/Canada issues as Trump lends support for the trucker protest up there.

Canadian protesters say no 'hatred' or violence here, they'll be reported to police: 'All on same page'
'All we know is love, the language of love,' one protester said
https://www.foxnews.com/world/canada-tr … protesters

Truly a hippie protest.
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

so most of the world, including your beloved new zealand, are reopening borders now that omicron accounts for 99.9% of new cases worldwide.

i see you're generally pretty quiet about this sort of news.

DiLbERt kNowS bEst
Why are you so joyful that the world has completely failed to contain a dangerous virus, when with a bit of thought and cooperation it could have been?

How HIV elimination is within Australia's reach
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59764592

What a waste of time, not worth the bother or disruption to people's lives, just let it become endemic.

If we can't deal with a simple virus, which is in no-ones interest to let run, how are we going to deal with climate change - in which its in everyone's strong short term interest to continue burning carbon?
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uziq
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another top rate comparison. HIV and covid.

did you know that the huge drive for mRNA research has made cures for HIV/AIDS possible, whilst you mention it?

dilbert: bUt wE dnT knoW thEir lonGteRm cOnseQuenxes!

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