uziq
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sorry to hear that larssen. same thing happened to my best-friend in the UK a few years back. situation sounds extremely similar ... rough.

nothing anyone can say here that won't be an empty cliché. you didn't do anything wrong by drawing the line under a destructive or draining relationship.
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Sorry to hear that, bad times all round.

Suicide is difficult to deal with, you'll second guess yourself forever but its a thousand straws which do it, underlying issues which are no-one's fault are the base.

The only useful advice I've seen is you don't get over it, you get used to it. Right now you need to watch out for your own wellbeing as you go through the process.

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Make a donation to a suicide charity in her name. People say that was something that helped.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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This helped put some things in context

https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-suicid … 18018.html

Down the track a memorial can help.
eg https://www.fowa.org.uk/support-us/supp … -adoption/
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i think you should take some walks, maybe a jog. hit the gym. you need to fasten your mind on a short-term goal and get through the shock period (i know this experience well). there will be plenty of time to process the grief and come to terms with it; don't rush yourself on that now. breathe and move your limbs.

the ultimate and inalienable truth, here, is that you're never going to understand the decision process or reasons that that led to that final act. your mind could grapple with it forever. but suicide is an extremely private, distant, personal thing. you're going to look for explanations, understandings, causes and justifications where there is, really, only a void and a sort of null. my best friend related this aspect to me very well. that part is forever going to remain locked up and out-of-reach for you. the best you can do is to bracket it off and try to see the relationship and time you spent together in a good light. close friends, family, partners/ex-partners, etc, ultimately cannot be admitted into those final moments and deliberations: it's something beyond them.
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Things will get better.
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Dilbert_X
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^ Larssen

Unfortunately this is how it often goes. There is always more that could have been done, things that could have been done differently, things said or not said. You can't undo the past, just do what you think is best at the time.

A confluence of relatively small events from multiple sources creates a bad situation which might not seem a big deal to one person but is the end of the world for another who may not have the developed coping mechanisms to get through it. Its impossible to know from the outside.

Its always possible to do more, mistakes are inevitable, its helpful to focus on the happier times, all the things you did right and all the help you did give.
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Did you donate to a charity in her honor like Dilbert suggested?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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Well I suggested a memorial really, some time down the track.
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Larssen, are you thinking about hurting yourself? Let me know if you need someone to talk to about that.
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I would tell you not to hurt yourself obviously
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this guy doubled his wealth during the pandemic.

this is your god, engineers?
Dilbert_X
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No, we are gods, he's your god.
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Larssen
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I've been prescribed temazepam. Besides helping me sleep I feel like it's emotionally dulling throughout the day as well. It's hard to precisely remember the last few days, it all feels like a surreal blur.
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remember those things ruined jordan peterson’s life.

he added it as an appendix to his 12 rules for life.

rule 13: don’t take benzos.
Larssen
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I was given 15 capsules, so it's only for the next 2 weeks
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godspeed.
Dilbert_X
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Take care of yourself, and get off that stuff as soon as you can.
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Thanks. It's strange. They say it stays in your system for about 8 hours but I've noticed light headedness and generally emotional numbness the next day. Not crying at all anymore. Like the last few days were a fevered dream of sorts. I can feel myself waking up at night but immediately fall asleep again.

I don't know if it's because I can finally sleep and I'm out of the first shock or because of the drug. It's uncomfortable in a way.
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at least now you'll know what all your favourite black rappers are going on about when they talk about bars or xannies.
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I did my MA thesis on the use of medication to treat emotional and behavioral disorders. I'm a big advocate for using medication to treat mental health disorders.

Let me know if you have any questions about any of it.
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One of her best friends came to visit me today and it's changing my outlook seeing and hearing how much devastation her final act left behind. Her best friend who planned to go to a party with her but cancelled the day before her death (because of a covid infection) blaming herself, the guy she most recently hooked up/broke up with who's now in trauma therapy, the guy friend who's now lost 3 friends in a year, the neighbour who saw it happen and tried to reanimate her, all the renewed anger from remaining friends/family directed at someone who sexually harassed her in the past, the shock from her former colleagues who I had to inform etc.

It's terrible. I loved this girl, I feel so sorry for how desperate she must've felt that last day and accept that she made this choice but what she left behind is so enormously tragic as well. I've taken to speaking with as many people from her circle who are affected as I can, hoping to offer some comfort by exchanging memories etc.

I've spent much of the last days digging as far as I could into understanding what happened to her. If anyone is interested, I came across the American Association of Suicidology (suicidology.org). It has many resources that I've found extremely helpful in all this.

https://suicidology.org/resources/suici … survivors/

If you know anyone who's severely depressed and/or contemplating suicide please refer them here and make them read the survivors of suicide handbook. (SOS handbook on the site, near the bottom) Do so yourself as well.

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Don't stare too long into the suicide abyss.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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Various thoughts:

Suicide can be like a bomb going off, it affects 10s-100s of people around them. Everyone blames themselves.
Watch out for everyone and yourself, one can trigger another, I've seen that.

Generally these things are 10-20 years in the making, often starting in childhood. Some people don't have the coping mechanisms to deal with an average life, some people have really fucked up lives, everything goes wrong for them.
Abuse, especially as a child, does cause physical changes in the brain and thats hard to address.

I've been down the rabbit-hole of digging into every aspect of someone's life after a suicide, you do turn up unexpected things, it can eat you up.

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Dilbert_X wrote:

No, we are gods, he's your god.
https://twitter.com/analogist_net/statu … 12544?s=21

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