Dilbert_X
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They also give sanctuary and approval to paedophiles and murderers.

Using an obscure loophole to subvert democracy isn't civil disobedience, standing out in the street blocking the police might be.
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uziq
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yes, that's true, but it doesn't mean they're incapable of doing good, or that every church congregation is tainted by, er, pedophile bishops.

not sure about the church giving sanctuary to murderers. what are you talking about there? i missed the reference. murder tends to be forbidden in the christian church, dilbert.

i thought you were against people standing in the street and blocking police? people might spraypaint walls and make their feelings known!
SuperJail Warden
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I knew Jehovah's Witnesses were real but I never looked into them. I assumed they were a type of Mormon.

Did you know they don't celebrate any Holidays? That is stupid. Why would anyone want to be part of a religion where you don't have any fun?
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unnamednewbie13
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I thought JW anti-holiday stuff was pretty common knowledge. They have their fun, just not from any national or religious holidays or whatever. Not everyone on the planet celebrates Christmas. Less known probably is that they're discouraged from applying themselves in school and getting a college education. "None of that matters, focus on God."

In my experience, Mormons are a bit more laid back, especially nowadays. Sure you got your ramrod individuals, families and communities who officially frown on all that stuff, but they still drink, smoke, and take drugs much like everyone else (sometimes on the sly). Big opioid problem, in fact.
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I knew JWs didn't do Halloween. But You would think Christmas was universal among Christians.

I think fondly of Mormons. They do seem okay.
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It's tempting to ask how many hospitals Mormons built when arguing about which Church is doing more for humanity. That the Catholic Church is huge in hospitals. But it's too uncomfortably close to the "how many hospitals have atheists built?" probe that sometimes comes up in an unwanted religious discussion.

Still, ex members with a lot of baggage from one of the other faith, no doubt.
SuperJail Warden
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Counting hospitals...so American. Hospitals shouldn't be something religious institutions need to build.

I appreciate that the Mormons are willing to send their dressed up missionaries into the hood to talk to people. Like all churches, they have ulterior motives but you don't see Trumpist Megachurches sending their Kyle Rittenhouse's into the hood to try to convert people to the gospel of Joel Osteen. I think I would prefer JW not celebrating Christmas to having to spend the Holidays with Evangelicals.

For fun, Google News Joel Osteen today.
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I guess the statute of limitations expired on the 25k reward on that. It would look good if Osteen, apart from everything else, paid it up anyway. Bizarre story.
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I knew Jehovah's Witnesses were real but I never looked into them. I assumed they were a type of Mormon.

Did you know they don't celebrate any Holidays? That is stupid. Why would anyone want to be part of a religion where you don't have any fun?
the zaniest thing about them is that they refuse blood transfusions and a whole range of pretty common hospital treatments. a lot of JWs die for absolutely no reason.
unnamednewbie13
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I think that part is a misread of Acts. Go figure, from the church of people who aren't supposed to get educated.
uziq
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strange institutional survival policy to encourage your adherents to die of completely avoidable minor ailments. almost impressive.
unnamednewbie13
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In a way it reminds me of Republicans consigning part of their base to the (avoidable) jaws of the "scamdemic." Like a lot of these politicians and commenters know it's actually real. Fox people are vaccinated.

Preaching against the dangers of InDoCtRiNaTiOn in our schools.
uziq
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most of these institutions have just been captured by a totally self-serving elite/elders/council/etc. and have perverted it. there’s no way things like mormonism and JWs aren’t intensely ‘worldly’ and interested a litttttle too much in wealth and power in this world rather than the riches awaiting good faith in the next.
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The Mormon business empire is very interested in wealth and profit. High ranking Mormons often very well off. People are designated wards to attend based on housing proximity and expected to stick to it. So the rich areas have the rich people churches and the poor areas have the poor people churches. Much like a lot of things in America. Also similarly, very interested in keeping people under their tight control.
SuperJail Warden
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Why are these Jews in front of the Pope?
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Dilbert_X
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Catholics like them really young, they could forward them to jews once they hit 13-14.
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uziq
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why are jews specifically known for abusing teenagers?
SuperJail Warden
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"LGBT Teens harassed & threatened to get stabbed by Muslim teens if they don’t leave chicken shop. Wembley, UK."
https://old.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFr … tabbed_by/

I knew the Muslim no go zones were real.
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SuperJail Warden
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Saw a YouTube priest debunk "God of the old testament is mean while the new testament God is merciful". The priest explained that the Jesus talked of hell and punishment for sinning more than anyone else. And the that God is merciful but "punishes like a parent punished their child".
https://c.tenor.com/NKO9zN6OzDIAAAAC/steve-buscemi-fuck-all-that.gif
His explanation actually makes me like Jesus less. I see enough suffering and pain already. I don't want to be part of a religion, movement, or anything else that makes not following some silly rules a damnable offense. Being kind and treating others is hard as it is already. Can I just be rewarded for that instead of also needing to go to church, sit there and be lectured by a pedophile? Can I at least be evened up for being nice and charitable without needing to go to a church?
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uziq
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it's my fundamental point of divergence from christianity as its understood/practiced today, as well.

none of the church father's elegant and yet casuist explanations for theodicy appeal to me.

jesus's gospels and the simple moral sermons are good; all the inane rules and hangovers from jewish/old testament thinking not so much.
SuperJail Warden
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Some of the parables of Jesus were sus too. This one is strange.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_o … s_or_minas




A lot of stuff needs to get cut or retconned for the Third Testament. If I had to write it...keep the vengeful God of the Old Testament, remove all of the stuff Jesus said about hell and punishment, and then include an explanation of how God went vengeful to merciful. Maybe Jesus explained to him how hard humans have it and he decided to go much easier on us all. And in that case the only thing he really wants us to do is be kind to each other and visit a church every so often.

Also the new Bible will need to be much shorter. The Koran is 10% the size of the Bible. You could finish it in one sitting. That is the right idea. The Bible needs to be shorter than the Koran so that nobody has any excuse not to try to read it once. Nobody is memorized by thick books anymore. They just take up too much space. It wouldn't be crazy to offer an abridged and unabridged version. Maybe a Special Edition Collectors with deleted scenes.

Finally, the Last Testament™ needs to have a lot less metaphors and be much more straight forward. If most of the FT is just extended monologues by God explaining why he closed Hell, got less weird about sex and food, and only intervenes sometimes then that will be a real improvement over the system we have now.
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unnamednewbie13
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Church seems to be more for man's benefit. Fellowship with the faithful, the pomp, showmanship, an impressive place to gather people for various indoctrinations. But if you really think about it, the whole universe would be God's temple. Omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient. Built up to the point that it doesn't make sense that he'd have to "live" in a man-made structure. I think of this sometimes on the rare occasions someone tries to get me to go to church. Don't go to a place humans built to pray. Go to an undisturbed place God built. Take a weekend in the mountains. Get some net fishing done while you're at it.

If a Christian religion tells you that belief in and acceptance of Jesus and trying to be more like him isn't enough, chances are they want your money.

Forget megachurch pastors. Astronomers bring God's work to light.
SuperJail Warden
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Anyone familiar with the Fatima and Russia thing?

"According to Lewis, only a tiny percentage—maybe 3 to 5 percent—of the 50 million Catholics in the U.S. even know about the Fátima debates. “But it’s a key 3 percent,” he said. “They follow Catholic news, want to know what’s going on in the Vatican, are die-hards for apparitions. And they’re seminarians—young priests. … This stuff is preached from the pulpit.”

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unnamednewbie13
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Pastor Greg Locke tells churchgoers to use 2nd Amendment against 'propaganda' and 'Democrat games'
https://www.rawstory.com/pastor-greg-lo … a-machine/

sad lol
SuperJail Warden
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I just realized I spent Good Friday committing adultery. Realized it as someone was talking about going out with the family on Eastern Sunday.

I have to send $20 to the Red Cross now.
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Easter doesn't even feel like a real holiday.

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