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OK, some sort of asylum then.

OK, so they've built a mobile asylum, once they're in they should drive it into the country.

What next, a mobile child pornography cinema so paedophiles won't bother actual children?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2021-12-02 14:33:07)

Dilbert_X wrote:

OK, so they've built a mobile asylum, once they're in they should drive it into the country.

What next, a mobile child pornography cinema so paedophiles won't bother actual children?

you seem to really struggle to understand the concept that a drug addict injecting themselves with a needle isn't, in fact, raping someone else or, er, molesting children. why are you so moralistic and judgmental about drug addicts? they are not rapists, dilbert.

their addiction means they must inject themselves regularly. that's the simple reality of it. giving them a safe space in which to do it, with proper-maintained facilities and trained personnel nearby, reduces the harm they do to themselves (and by extension their family, their communities, etc, whatever reasoning you want to apply). it REDUCES the harm involved at every point in the chain.

without these facilities, they're going to inject anyway. you can't tut-tut at them or threaten them with prison or tell them they should be sent to an asylum because their lives are clearly out of control. it doesn't work that way. they have a daily, if not hourly, need to inject themselves. so what's the best way to deal with it, chap, scaremonger about rapists, murderers, and paedophiles, or give them a fucking safe space to do it in?

anyone who is homeless and at rock bottom, needing to use one of these facilities, probably doesn't have any immediate family or relations. if they do, they've clearly given up on them a long time ago. so what's better: make sure they don't OD and die in the streets, or arbitrarily punish them and send a PCO to their next-of-kin's doorstep with the grave news?

Last edited by uziq (2021-12-02 17:04:02)

uziq wrote:

. so what's the best way to deal with it, chap, scaremonger about rapists, murderers, and paedophiles, or give them a fucking safe space to do it in?

This is exactly what I'm saying, Bristol needs a rape bus.

It wasn't slavery, it was states exercising states' rights!

‘This has been happening for a long time’: Modern-day slavery uncovered in South Georgia
https://nordot.app/839654009153142784

ATLANTA — A yearslong human trafficking operation trapped migrant workers in “modern-day slavery” on South Georgia farms, according to a federal indictment unsealed last week.

Victims include over one hundred laborers smuggled from Mexico and Central America into “brutal” and “inhumane” working conditions. Under the threat of gun violence, some were allegedly forced to dig for onions with their bare hands, earning only 20 cents for each bucket harvested. At least two people died on the job. Another was allegedly repeatedly raped.

When not out in the fields, workers were detained in work camps surrounded by electric fencing, or held in cramped living quarters, including dirty trailers with raw sewage leaks. There was little to no access to food or safe drinking water.

Twenty-four accused members and associates of the criminal enterprise that perpetuated the exploitation now face a slew of felony charges, according to a press release from the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Georgia. The multi-agency cooperation that yielded the indictment – dubbed “Operation Blooming Onion” – may be one of the largest-ever human trafficking and visa fraud investigations in the country, VICE News reported.

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that system is called capitalism. it's why it always creates a sour note when you punch down on migrant workers. they are already being exploited quite enough and are only trying to do their own modest bit to make the best of a vast wage differential and inequality.

happens in the USA, happens in the UK, happens in south korea ... am sure it happens in australia too.

you should read 'a seventh man' by john berger and john mohr.

Sounds like Trumpers except just with someone new? Do these people just need some figure to latch onto because their lives are empty?

I think I posted somewhere about Americans being in a general state of stress due to healthcare issues.

Relevant:





I'm actually surprised more people don't go postal staring down the barrel of this kind of thing.

Also, imgur is one hot, virtually unreadable mess these days. The occasional personal story is cool, but it's just a deluge of utter negativity in between the occasional cute cat photo. At least you can filter tags, when posts are tagged. Just give me videos of huskies complaining, website, even if those too are reposts.

Kid I was complaining about got in trouble yesterday with the school. Another student said student A was in the bathroom banging his head against the wall. When student B asked him WTF he is doing student A yanked him around by the collar. Student A is still in school today.

Drama with a different kid: Another kid that is really cool with me even though I am going to fail him told me he got suspended for a few days for threatening to fist fight a security guard.

Last edited by SuperJail Warden (2021-12-14 06:35:29)

American health care anecdote (via imgur):

Basically it took too long to be diagnosed because everyone blamed it on weight and hygiene. Then after my first kid [30] I got diagnosed but I was already stage two and had the worst insurance on the planet. [I think they covered like $20 of something one year? I don't even remember or I'd name and shame.] I went from stage 2 to stage 3 so fast and it was a whole miserable trip. I've had insurance off and on those few years, but none that would cover the specialists I needed that we could afford. I ended up paying out of pocket anyway. By the time I ended up with a competent doctor it was too far gone. Nothing diet, nothing lifestyle, NOTHING, helped. Everytime I tried a biologic it would work for a while then wear off. I was on a super high dose of an organ rejection drug and even chemo to try and bring it under control enough to GET a surgical consult and now there is nothing... I am stuck weeping and oozing and getting infected no matter HOW clean I keep, barely walking from the pain/inflammation, having trouble going to the restroom, and never having sex again.

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My husband is mad and doesn't know where to put his anger so he wants to somehow sue the US healthcare system or Social Security for turning me down a bunch of times despite the fact that HS is bluebooked. [Any illness that is in SSI's bluebook is like an auto-in usually]

This sounds really typical. Off and on insurance, can't pay for health care / can't get into a specialist, string of poor doctors, and then it's too late to do anything.

HS: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con … c-20352306

Thing is, the world outside corporate is heaving with all kinds of 'freelance consultants'.

If you're doing a multi-billion dollar deal who are you going to hire:

A multi-billion dollar corporation which employs a team of experts and you can sue for millions or billions if they fuck it up

Some guy who has a desk in his garage who used to work for a corporation and has a used car as collateral but great 'contacts'

Most of these jobs are parasitic in the first place, they're outsourced so people have someone to blame and sue if it goes wrong, not because anyone really needs the kind of 'due diligence' these idiots do.

My last company was bought out by a super-whizz private equity firm who hired expensive accountants and lawyers to do 'due diligence'.

The spent about two months in a conference room clacking away on laptops and laughing at each others jokes, but failed to notice most of the product lineup was obsolete 20 years ago and much of the engineering on the rest which was life-critical products had been done by a madman without a single page of documentation behind it (not me, I was in a different business unit) and there was exactly zero meaningful QC on the suppliers or incoming goods for those same products.
There was an engineer working to fix up that trainwreck, but he got fired to make the numbers look better.

spoken like someone who could have become an industry consultant 10 years ago but evidently decided it was more noble to be underemployed in a deteriorating role, and complaining about it every single week on a gaming forum.

Last edited by uziq (2021-12-17 20:54:13)