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2021-11-21 16:52:16
SuperJail Warden
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Cockfighter pig men run a car off the road and beat a guy in his 60s half to death. Excuse: trespassing. There was no trespassing. Cockfighter pig man's cockfighting wife lies and incites supporters from local community to show up at court.

They stage another cockfight in the interim between the assault and the trial.

Misdemeanor assault and a handful of years.

I guess death threats against animal rights people as well, though this sort of thing is nothing new to SHARK. Yes, it's certainly black people who are treated too leniently.

https://www.animals24-7.org/2021/11/11/ … -be-tried/

Newcomb was convicted on November 5,  2021,  after a two-day jury trial,  of one count of felonious assault for using his pickup truck to ram Fahnestock’s car,  running it off the road into a deep ditch;  one count of felony theft for causing the loss or destruction of a SHARK drone,  the drone controller,  and miscellaneous camera equipment;  and one count of misdemeanor assault for beating Hindi.

“I didn’t do it” says perp of offenses caught on video
Lectured by Lawrence County Court of Common Pleas Judge Andrew Ballard about the importance of showing remorse as a factor in sentencing,  and then asked if he had anything to say,  Newcomb said only “I didn’t do it.”

Newcomb and co-defendant Shannon Clark were caught by SHARK hidden cameras in the act of attacking Hindi and Fahnestock on January 3,  2021.
For mac's research, youtube link of hidden cam footage of assault (headphones warning). Blood in thumbnail so I won't be embedding it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8hIIczNeOA

In the comments: pig men
Imagine destroying your car in order to protect birds. One of the dumbest animals too.
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2021-11-21 17:01:14
unnamednewbie13
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Imagine getting literally run off the road by someone else, and then being told by an internet random that you "destroyed your car to protect birds," like you swerved to avoid a flock or something. Is this you standing up for the pig men you like to call pig men?

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Newcomb was convicted on November 5,  2021,  after a two-day jury trial,  of one count of felonious assault for using his pickup truck to ram Fahnestock’s car,  running it off the road into a deep ditch;  one count of felony theft for causing the loss or destruction of a SHARK drone,  the drone controller,  and miscellaneous camera equipment;  and one count of misdemeanor assault for beating Hindi.
Anyway, cockfighting is illegal in all 50 stats as well as DC. But it's one of those things where they sometimes have an "understanding" with local law enforcement.

lawinfo.com wrote:

Cockfighting is one of the earliest recorded spectator sports, dating back centuries. These fights consist of two birds or roosters being placed in a small fighting ring, known as a cock pit, to battle until one of the roosters kills the other.

Although cockfights are illegal in all 50 states, the practice still exists in the United States and this blood sport serves as the framework for illegal gambling rings.
Sometimes the cops are in on it, or I guess actually running it. lol

United State Territories and Cockfighting
With the passing of the 2018 Farm Bill, all animal fighting in every part of the country was banned, including the territories of Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the North Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

However, this has been the subject of controversy as cockfighting has served as part of the culture for a number of the territories. Residents of these territories have voiced their concerns with the federal government banning the practice. In 2019, the Puerto Rican government has signed legislation to try to keep cockfighting legal, which remains unresolved.
2021-11-21 17:19:17
SuperJail Warden
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What do you think of bullfighting? It's part of traditional Spanish culture. Maybe cockfighting is part of rural culture too? Why do you hate rural culture?
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2021-11-21 17:47:37
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uziq wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Everyone is racist, explain again how the Indian caste system works, didn't India have to be split into India and Pakistan to stop racists killing each other?

A bit of banter seems relatively mild.
how is a caste system evidence of racism? you literally make zero fucking sense.

‘he that applies his names to ideas different from their common use speaks gibberish’ - john locke.
The caste system has had its basis in ethnicity for thousands of years.
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2021-11-21 18:39:46
unnamednewbie13
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

What do you think of bullfighting? It's part of traditional Spanish culture. Maybe cockfighting is part of rural culture too? Why do you hate rural culture?
Not a fan of bullfighting.

Nor rodeos, for that matter. Rodeos are a bunch of fake-ass cowboys doing fake-ass cowboy stuff, hurting animals because it's better for the "show." I have company in my opinion, from people who work with horses and cattle. For my part, I (imperfectly) avoid buying from companies that sponsor them, whenever it occurs to me. Sponsorships can be surprising though. The US Army I think sponsors a few, I guess with tax money.

Discarding animal cruelty as a form of entertainment won't destroy a culture, unless that's all they have going for them. Do you think that's all they have going for them? Why do you hate Spaniards and rural people?

I suppose without a bunch of broken horse legs flopping around in the breeze, you'd be out another potential source of violence porn.
2021-11-21 19:48:13
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Bullfighting, cock fighting, horse racing etc, all done for sadists and stupid people.
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2021-11-21 20:34:17
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I would probably separate horse racing from those others with the caveat that while some aspects of the industry are inhumane (things could be done to help reduce life-threatening injury), the horses (as "things" of value) [can be] otherwise very well treat, and kept, enjoying expensive pampering not even afforded to most pets. There is a strong financial incentive to keeping a racehorse in good shape, and alive and healthy after their career to propagate. Personally, I haven't been to the track in years.

Fighting dogs, roosters, bulls in the arena, pigeon shoots: much more "expendable" animals.

Another shark video (age restricted):

Salinas Rodeo Horse, Leg Broken, Forced to Run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wjcHzwVHrU

paraphrased:

Californian newspaper, also a rodeo sponsor wrote:

A bucking horse that shattered its leg in full view of the crowd during July's California Rodeo Salinas was left to suffer in a chute alone and in pain for roughly 45 minutes before it was hauled off and euthanized according to an eyewitness account (as reported to the SPCA in-line with video documentation, by not a SHARK investigator, but a barrel racer who attended the rodeo with her family). A claim disputed by the rodeo.
Shark's got videos for days on rodeos alone. Abuse in plain sight, lies from bought-and-paid-for veterinarians, undercover footage, harassment from rodeo staff. The latter really is a running theme for this sort of business.

Elsewhere:

Undercover video exposes pig farm abuses
https://news.yahoo.com/news/blogs/upsho … 25488.html

[Warning: Graphic video.]

Undercover video of a Platte County, Wyoming, pig farm shows workers kicking piglets like soccer balls, swinging sick piglets in circles by their hind legs, and striking mother pigs with their fists.
I don't think the video's still in the article, but you can probably find it on youtube if you want to see a piglet spiked into the concrete floor touchdown-style. This crap really makes you think twice about where you buy your supply. Or about your questioning of someone else's humanity while you partake in your own second-hand callousness.
2021-11-21 20:36:33
Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I would probably separate horse racing from those others with the caveat that while some aspects of the industry are inhumane (things could be done to help reduce life-threatening injury), the horses (as "things" of value) are otherwise very well treat, and kept, enjoying expensive pampering not even afforded to most pets.
Thats the winners, the also rans are shot for dogfood.

Like dog racing, horse racing disposes of an incredible number of surplus animals every year.

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2021-11-21 20:44:50
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Right, the industry has a number of dark corners. Like I said anyway, I don't go to the track anymore. I would still rather be reincarnated as a successful race horse than a canned pigeon though, potential abuses notwithstanding.

You could probably argue similarity to the military using up a soldier and then discarding them to go live under a bridge when they're done, but some of the horses probably get better treatment.
2021-11-21 20:47:31
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Imagine braving a den of pigmen to film an undercover exposé on cruel farming practices only to have your state respond by introducing comprehensive ag-gag.
2021-11-21 21:16:35
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

You could probably argue similarity to the military using up a soldier and then discarding them to go live under a bridge when they're done, but some of the horses probably get better treatment.
As far as I know the military doesn't take them out the back and put a bullet in them.

Yet.

Reading up a good number of foals who obviously aren't going to make the grade get shot before they're even registered, so they don't count in the stats for racehorses put down.

There are all kinds of other fudges, sell your horse to a middle-man so it counts as 'rehomed', one day later the middle-man sends it to the knacker for dog-food.
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2021-11-22 00:26:38
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Right, referring to some of the above stuff. Still in need of new rules and animal welfare reform, especially keeping track of every individual horse. But currently for the ones that "make it," full on horse jacuzzis. IMO we owe the best kind of treatment to the species that helped us get to where we are (as well as better treatment towards ourselves, though not going to get into that further here). There are probably worse lives for a domesticated animal, is my point. Not that racing is without sin.
2021-11-22 00:35:09
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For every racehorse put out to pasture there are literally 1000 which don't.
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2021-11-22 00:55:23
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For like the nth time, horse racing is Also Bad. You can start by looking at the up front injuries and deaths, a tip of the iceberg that should be off-putting enough to anyone who says they care about horses. Any animal welfare buff could look further into the going ons, unrecordeds, and unknowns and have further concerns. It needs reform, to change, or to stop. But even with all the horror, I would still rather be a horse in a jacuzzi than a dog getting its face ripped off.

Personally, I haven't been to the track in years.
Out of curiosity, do you partake in any vegetarian crops that harm their ecosystems, or is your concern for the environment (and the animals in it) limited to the impact of livestock?
2021-11-22 00:59:08
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Anyway it only came up here in the wake of the "lenient treatment towards blacks" stuff, because an animal rights guy and an animal rights driver were recently assaulted by people who got off fairly easy. Rabbit hole progression. Any more lenient and the white thugs may as well not have been punished at all. Could have also brought up that one swimmer kid who got a slap on the wrist for rape 20 minutes of action giving a girl a bad time.

Maybe it's their dormant African gene acting up, getting them into trouble and so leniently treated. /s

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2021-11-22 03:46:50
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Everyone is racist, explain again how the Indian caste system works, didn't India have to be split into India and Pakistan to stop racists killing each other?

A bit of banter seems relatively mild.
how is a caste system evidence of racism? you literally make zero fucking sense.

‘he that applies his names to ideas different from their common use speaks gibberish’ - john locke.
The caste system has had its basis in ethnicity for thousands of years.
absolutely, categorically wrong. the caste system was based on hindu theology and its karma-based notion of 'religious purity' – you know, people didn't have a concept of 'race' or 'ethnicity' 3,000 years ago dilbert.

race studies, and their entire faux-scientific credentials, were western european imports. dividing people based on the pigmentation of their skin, with a supposedly 'genetic' link to things like intelligence, behaviour, human worth, etc, for this wholesale discrimination, is a european practice.

But the fundamental difference, I think, between race and caste is that, and as I said, my colleague believes that it was imported from Europe and she's tried to analyze the distinctions between what was present in India in the early 18th century before the British came in and changed things. The idea of religious purity is part of a long system of what we call "tribal religions" in anthropology. As people become more and more part of the cosmopolitan industrial world, these tend to assimilate anyway; they tend to die down, these kinds of beliefs. Skin color and physical appearance had nothing to do with it originally. The British introduced this. In fact, they tried to establish racial categories in India. In the 1920s, a fellow by the name of Majumdar wrote that he was able to identify about 30 different races in India, but these cut across caste lines and also tribal lines.

You also have to remember there are millions of people in India who are not Hindu, who do not hold to this system of religious beliefs, and who are still tribal in that their social organization is based in kinship.
– audrey smedley.

there have been sociological phenomena regarding skin colour in places like china, for example, where pale-toned people were generally courtiers and mandarians who didn't have to work outside or bear environmental weathering. but that has nothing at all to do with 'race' or 'ethnicity' and instead connotations of social rank and hierarchy.

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2021-11-22 04:54:42
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uziq wrote:

absolutely, categorically wrong. the caste system was based on hindu theology and its karma-based notion of 'religious purity' – you know, people didn't have a concept of 'race' or 'ethnicity' 3,000 years ago dilbert.
Its a lot more complex than that, birth, tribe, etc many of the castes practice endogamy.
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2021-11-22 06:59:43
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Kyle Rittenhouse, who was recently acquitted by a Kenosha, WI jury on multiple charges, including murder, told Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson that he actually supported peaceful demonstrations and the Black Lives Matter movement.

He also insists he is not racist during a preview of an interview set to air on Monday on FNC’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

“This case has nothing to do with race,” Rittenhouse said. “It never had anything to do with race. It had to do with the right to self-defense.”

“I’m not a racist person,” he continued. “I support the BLM movement. I support peacefully demonstrating. I believe there needs to be change. I believe there’s a lot of prosecutorial misconduct, not just in my case but in other cases. It’s just amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of someone.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/11 … qus_thread

Comments are interesting. Guess we will see this kid derp through early adulthood now.
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2021-11-22 08:13:01
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

absolutely, categorically wrong. the caste system was based on hindu theology and its karma-based notion of 'religious purity' – you know, people didn't have a concept of 'race' or 'ethnicity' 3,000 years ago dilbert.
Its a lot more complex than that, birth, tribe, etc many of the castes practice endogamy.
yes, it is more complex than you make out – and it's not 'racist', either. as i said, those high-borne castes who want to retain purity do so out of a notion based on a religious purity that pre-dates any notion of race by about 2600 years.

it's totally nonsensical to say that the indian caste system is racist. it was never divided along lines understood as 'racial' or even 'ethnic'. there are 30+ ethnicities in india that cut across all lines of class, caste and tribe. the society is simply NOT ordered along racial or ethnic hierarchies and never has been.

that certain castes only want to inter-marry or certain tribal groups want to continue their affiliation isn't signs of a 'racist' society, either. please try again.

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2021-11-22 09:10:01
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The man being questioned after a red SUV plowed through Waukesha's Christmas parade, killing at least five people and injuring dozens, has been identified as Darrell E. Brooks Jr., a Milwaukee man with a criminal history dating back to 1999 that includes numerous violent felonies.

He has a long rap sheet and a number of pending cases. Brooks’ most recent court appearance came on Nov. 5 for charges including reckless endangerment, battery, domestic abuse, resisting arrest and bail jumping. He was out on $1,000 bail for those charges at the time of the attack.

In July 2020, police charged him with three other felonies – including reckless endangerment and being a felon in possession of a firearm. He’s also listed as a Tier 2 registered sex offender in Nevada.

A background check from Wisconsin's Department of Justice came back with over 50 pages of charges against Brooks stretching back decades. In 1999 he received his first felony conviction for taking part in an aggravated battery – for which he received three years of probation, records show.

He was convicted of obstructing an officer in 2005 and 2003. In 2002 he had another felony marijuana charge.

In 2010 he pleaded no contest to felony strangulation charges.

In 2012 he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor bail jumping and marijuana charges. A year earlier he pleaded guilty to felony marijuana charges and resisting arrest.
Hmm

That's not going to be good for race relations.
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2021-11-22 10:40:44
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I mentioned this a few hours ago, though not in copy-paste detail. Stuff like this always inspires early commentary from people who think they have all the answers when the story is still very fluid in development. At least one blog I saw in the early AM talking about how we are now at "kinetic war" with the (BLM) communists. Very hot take supported at the time by little other than "you just know it was them."

America's old-man-shoving police desperately need police reform, and the thin blue liners will grasp at any excuse/tragedy they can to sweep it under the rug.
2021-11-22 15:05:50
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Yes, so "afraid" that McMichael stood over Ahmaud's body spitting out racial slurs. I wonder what the criteria for selection of that jury was. Did they make sure it would be people susceptible to this argumentation? I would have had to stop myself from squirming in irritation.
2021-11-22 15:07:19
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They will beat the case. Clear self defense. He reached for their gun.
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2021-11-22 15:11:08
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

50 pages of charges against Brooks stretching back decades.
There should come a point where people like this just shouldn't be out in public, they degrade the lives of too many other people.
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2021-11-22 21:56:20
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Investigators believe that the "BLM-communist antifa agitator getting payback for the Rittenhouse verdict in a newly launched 'kinetic war' on Christmas and patriots" had actually been fleeing another crime, possibly a domestic, though no police were in pursuit. The shots fired came from police who were trying to stop the vehicle, not from terrorist passengers.

This is probably why, Q-jo, that mainstream news were a little "slow" to report on it but your knee jerk blogs weren't. Imagine, in the stages of a developing story like this, whipping up a fearful frenzy about some terrorist strike only for it to be found otherwise the very next day. Probably too late for a lot of the people who already read that stuff though. At best, some will just be disappointed.

 

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