The Police, Po-Po, Fuzz, Cops, et cetera

2021-10-12 12:39:50

#51

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3957

Have you ever watched the HBO show Oz?

2021-10-12 12:42:27

#52

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6975|Cinncinatti

Oz was weird but I liked it. Premise didn't make much sense. Never finished the last season.

2021-10-12 12:59:36

#53

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3957

Right, it didn't make much sense that an experimental rehabilitation unit would be so violent.

2021-10-12 14:31:46

#54

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3957

This show makes me really never want to go to prison

2021-10-12 18:48:36

#55

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7009|PNW

It angers me whenever I hear someone going on gleefully about sending criminals to federal f-me-in-the-a prison, glorifying horrible, harrowing conditions and a prison culture that needs to end along with society's eager acceptance of this nonsense. Let's see someone with that attitude carry it on if they're wrongfully imprisoned.

An American prison (guess which one) was supposedly the inspiration for Rowling's joy-sucking, soul-killing Azkaban prison, described as a fate worse than death.

There are a lot of cases to be made for improving prison conditions in this outrageously wealthy nation of ours, but politicians run the risk of being seen as sOfT oN CrImE.

2021-10-12 18:57:34

#56

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
34% and 18% of the overall prison population (the largest such p population on earth) … and what % of the general population are they?

34% is not an 'overwhelming majority'

are you this thick, engineering man? yes, african-americans, and black males in particular, are over(whelmingly) represented in the prison population.

I understand English, over and overwhelmingly are two completely different words.

as you would expect, considering the inconsistencies in policing, court representation and sentencing. young black males practically get hoovered into the prison system for minor offences which their white, and especially white-collar white, denizens can easily skip.

And jews skip investigation for crimes the average white person would be imprisoned for in short order.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2021-10-12 18:59:20)

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2021-10-12 18:58:51

#57

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
It angers me whenever I hear someone going on gleefully about sending criminals to federal f-me-in-the-a prison, glorifying horrible, harrowing conditions and a prison culture that needs to end along with society's eager acceptance of this nonsense. Let's see someone with that attitude carry it on if they're wrongfully imprisoned.

An American prison (guess which one) was supposedly the inspiration for Rowling's joy-sucking, soul-killing Azkaban prison, described as a fate worse than death.

There are a lot of cases to be made for improving prison conditions in this outrageously wealthy nation of ours, but politicians run the risk of being seen as sOfT oN CrImE.

It shouldn't be a paradise but people aren't going to be rehabilitated through brutality, and giving psychopaths a playground is bad for everyone.

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2021-10-12 19:41:39

#58

uziq: Member; +495|3690

Dilbert_X wrote:
uziq wrote:
34% and 18% of the overall prison population (the largest such p population on earth) … and what % of the general population are they?
34% is not an 'overwhelming majority'

are you this thick, engineering man? yes, african-americans, and black males in particular, are over(whelmingly) represented in the prison population.
I understand English, over and overwhelmingly are two completely different words.

as you would expect, considering the inconsistencies in policing, court representation and sentencing. young black males practically get hoovered into the prison system for minor offences which their white, and especially white-collar white, denizens can easily skip.
And jews skip investigation for crimes the average white person would be imprisoned for in short order.

34% in a multiracial, pluralistic society with only 13% general population certainly is ‘overwhelming’ and should raise serious questions.

once again you’re more interested in semantics and word finagling than brooking an actual argument. the experience of african americans, and males specifically, in the american penal system is exceptional.

And jews skip investigation for crimes the average white person would be imprisoned for in short order.

yes, jews like bernie madoff, who get away with everything.

money talks in the american justice system,
not judaism.

Last edited by uziq (2021-10-12 19:45:10)

2021-10-12 20:00:15

#59

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
the prison population are overwhelmingly african-american

This is what you said, you're wrong, where do you get this stuff?

Yes they're over-represented, so are poor whites.

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2021-10-12 23:05:09

#60

uziq: Member; +495|3690

if a society has 4 or 5 main ethnic groups, and yet 1 of those groups occupies 40% of all prison places, how is that not an alarming statistic?

once again you’re fussing over the term ‘majority’ and not answering the issue. no, poor whites are not as equally incarcerated.

Last edited by uziq (2021-10-12 23:07:01)

2021-10-12 23:27:25

#61

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

Yes its funny, all over the world black africans are more incarcerated than any other group. It is indeed a mystery.

I'm sure poor whites are incarcerated more than rich whites.

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2021-10-13 01:31:00

#62

uziq: Member; +495|3690

it’s like you can see the analysis right there in front of you, you’re even aware of the social impact of poverty … and, whoosh, jump to giant ahistorical, illiterate racial essentialism instead.

black africans are not the most incarcerated group in america. there’s no nigerian faction. and pray tell where else in the world that ‘africans’ make up significant numbers of the prison population.

insufferable, honestly.

2021-12-01 12:58:21

#63

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7009|PNW

@hollis

Maybe we can gofundme his new fee for defending police. It was funny to me how he was all like "well, I don't know everything about that case so I can't really say" yet he would default to defending them over defending the public regardless of having "very little information" or "little knowledge of that department's policies."

Difficult situation for police:

"Michael Mazzeo, president of the union representing Rochester police officers, defended the officers’ actions and said they were confronted with a difficult situation. “Those officers and those scenes, they broke no policy,” Mr. Mazzeo said at a news conference on Sunday. “There’s nothing that anyone can say they did that’s inappropriate.”

Rochester Officers Suspended After Pepper-Spraying of 9-Year-Old Girl
The incident, captured on body-camera footage, renewed scrutiny of a department whose officers had placed a hood on Daniel Prude, a Black man, before he died from suffocation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/nyre … child.html

2021-12-01 13:24:55

#64

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3957

At one point, an officer said, “You’re acting like a child.” She responded, “I am a child.”

And then he pepper sprays her.

2021-12-01 15:24:40

#65

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7009|PNW

There must be some sort of low key competition between departments to see who can mace the youngest child.

2021-12-01 16:32:49

#66

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

Whats the driver

Military PTSD

NFL Concussion

Hero complex

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2021-12-01 20:03:20

#67

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7009|PNW

'Former school bully' wouldn't surprise me.

Training where civilians are 'othered' probably doesn't help.

2021-12-01 20:03:23

#68

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +691|6528|Washington St.

1 and 3.

2021-12-01 20:09:42

#69

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

The whole "I'm the guard dog risking my life to protect the ungrateful sheeple" othering isn't helpful.

So some cop shot a 61 yr old in a wheelchair nine times in the back in Arizona - seems just a little excessive.

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2021-12-01 20:19:31

#70

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7009|PNW

Saw him rollin.

Was hatin.

2021-12-01 23:06:41

#71

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7009|PNW

lol

2021-12-02 01:10:25

#72

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

You'd really think right to arrest would be one of the first things police learn, but probably 99% of people will meekly submit and walk away when charges are dropped so they're used to not caring about what the law is.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2021-12-02 01:16:28)

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2021-12-02 18:03:13