SuperJail Warden
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Anyhow, the U.S. military is forcing all of the soldiers to get vaccinated. Biden is destroying the military.
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Dilbert_X
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If they don't like it they can resign - thats the beauty of the libertarian free market
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Dilbert_X
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Everywhere is holding out 70-80% vaccination as the end-game - doesn't seem to be working for Britain or Israel, people who have had covid, have been double vaccinated are still getting the delta variant and you can bet there will be new, better bio-engineered, variants in the pipeline.
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uziq
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70-80% 'herd immunity' was always the end-game. even anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown supporters produced the same rates as ideal endgames. expecting 100% immunity, like 100% safe vaccines, is a silly and medically illiterate pipedream – a sort of thinking you seem weirdly susceptible to, as an engineer.

it's working in britain perfectly well. we have 30,000-40,000 new cases a day and < 100 deaths. before widespread vaccination, the death rate was many, many times higher. israel just stated today that their latest round of booster shots are having measurable good results with the delta variant.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ … 6e05240e3c

in addition, we have just approved a new monoclonal antibody treatment for covid. more and more vaccines and treatments are coming on-line all the time. new studies are establishing that mixing vaccines, e.g. AZ with pfizer, can produce desirable long-term results. as of a study published last week, we now know that the AZ vaccine actually produces longer-lasting immunity than mRNA. we can now devise double or triple shot programmes with this in mind.

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-appr … -covid-19/

people are always going to catch covid and a small minority are always going to die. we can't prevent it with flu or many other seasonal or endemic illness.

once again the board's resident 'man of science' is good for little more than tabloid-fidgeting hysteria and scaremongering. 'bio-engineered variants in the pipeline' lmao. my fucking god. i imagine you have no problem taking your cat to the vet for vaccines or booster shots, or indeed encouraging your parents to keep up with their yearly inoculation regimens. but for some reason it brings you a strange glee to tear out your hair over the 'disaster' of covid. oh noes! i have to get a vaccine once every 2 years!

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Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

oh noes! i have to get a vaccine once every 2 years!
The world can really do without a completely new kind of virus doing the rounds.

Just think, it could all have been avoided. Imagine if it had never happened.
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uziq
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you do know only infants cry over spilt milk, right?

we're in this now. this is the situation. even god-race engineers can't reverse causality or the arrow of time.

page 302 and you're still talking about how we could have beat this 'if only ...' we did so-and-so in week 1, in a highly complex world-system ...

familiarize yourself with the naturalist fallacy, perhaps? is and ought ...

none of which has any relevance to your persistent scaremongering about 'bad and dangerous' vaccines or 'new variants'. there will always be new variants of covid. viruses mutate. it's why they wisely decided to abandon place-based names and to opt for the greek alphabet (wise for about another 12 months, that is). we're on v302.5 of the flu by now. you think a 'delta' variant is the end of the world? lol.

it'll be scary when the epidemiological picture points to a scary new eventuality. for now, things are working. you are getting yourself into a pother. methinks you quite like it. being a doomer and muttering darkly about the idiocy of humanity is your default mode. you find comfort and solace in it. that's because you're a cuck. let the no doubt sexually and socially successful virologists and epidemiologists do their thing.

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RTHKI
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No cases at work in a couple months and now we got 2 in 2 days.

Unless it takes a lot of people out I don't see us requiring the vaccine anytime soon
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Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

you do know only infants cry over spilt milk, right?

we're in this now. this is the situation. even god-race engineers can't reverse causality or the arrow of time.

page 302 and you're still talking about how we could have beat this 'if only ...' we did so-and-so in week 1, in a highly complex world-system ...

familiarize yourself with the naturalist fallacy, perhaps? is and ought ...

none of which has any relevance to your persistent scaremongering about 'bad and dangerous' vaccines or 'new variants'. there will always be new variants of covid. viruses mutate. it's why they wisely decided to abandon place-based names and to opt for the greek alphabet (wise for about another 12 months, that is). we're on v302.5 of the flu by now. you think a 'delta' variant is the end of the world? lol.

it'll be scary when the epidemiological picture points to a scary new eventuality. for now, things are working. you are getting yourself into a pother. methinks you quite like it. being a doomer and muttering darkly about the idiocy of humanity is your default mode. you find comfort and solace in it. that's because you're a cuck. let the no doubt sexually and socially successful virologists and epidemiologists do their thing.
Well wouldn't it have been great if AIDS hadn't been unleashed on the world - completely avoidable

Same for the Wuhan bat-flu.
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uziq
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wouldn't it have been great if the asteroid never wiped out the dinosaurs? just imagine, we might have reptile cosmonauts.
Dilbert_X
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Yes, what we need here is an extinction level event.

Anyway, the lizard people live amongst us.
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uziq
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in other contexts you deplore 'scaremongering' republicans. then you scaremonger in a literally anti-scientific way over vaccines and viruses.

in other contexts you say we need a huge reduction in population numbers. then you complain endlessly that 'covid didn't need to happen'.

a slightly conflicted chap aren't you?
SuperJail Warden
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Before COVID there were often comments on Reddit like "we need another plague to kill off all the stupid people"

https://64.media.tumblr.com/37cd4709bb3157bf1d034f473e9eb9d1/tumblr_pwys3h0guD1wnhmglo6_540.gifv
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uziq
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eco-fascists and malthusians are some of the most facile thinkers on the planet. of course, it's always got to be someone else who has got to go.
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

in other contexts you deplore 'scaremongering' republicans. then you scaremonger in a literally anti-scientific way over vaccines and viruses.

in other contexts you say we need a huge reduction in population numbers. then you complain endlessly that 'covid didn't need to happen'.

a slightly conflicted chap aren't you?
Not at all, we can easily reduce the population through birth control and stadia
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Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

eco-fascists and malthusians are some of the most facile thinkers on the planet. of course, it's always got to be someone else who has got to go.
No-one has to go at all, thats the point.
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SuperJail Warden
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I feel like all roads lead to genocide. Malthusianism, Evangelical conservativism, integralism, identity politics, etc.

No amount of effort to reprogram people and societies can beat just killing the difficult people.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

If they don't like it they can resign - thats the beauty of the libertarian free market
amazing switcheroo from your previous hesitancy
Dilbert_X
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I've decided to go full Jay and support whatever delivers the best outcome to me personally in the short term.

This may be hard to follow so I'm going to create tags for various moods.
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unnamednewbie13
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Jay's kids apparently didn't deliver him the best short-term outcome when he was trying to WFH, lol.
Dilbert_X
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Its funny that short-term selfishness doesn't deliver a great society which is ultimately a poor outcome for you but I'm going to try and make it work.
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Code-name your robots after BF2S forum users. Looking forward to finding out what the Macbeth does.
Dilbert_X
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First robot is already named Gort.

I could call the heavier and slower one Uzique.
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Here's a good example of the kind of bait & switch I was talking about earlier:

https://i.imgur.com/AWhAZFP.jpg

The headline sets the mood, and few (among covid/vax skeptics & anti-vaxxers) register what the rest of the article has to say. In worse cases it frolics in the territory of falsehood before it gets around to the "but actually." I've pointed out articles' contents many times that contradicted the point the people who linked an article to me were trying to make.

While intending to dispel fears about the vaccines, it instead produces the opposite effect in people after that certain hit for their unshakeable certainties.

Alternatives:

Pfizer Vaccine Causes Neurological Damage in Recipients: Here is the Truth

to

"Pfizer Vaccine Causes Neurological Damage in Recipients:" Here is the Truth

or

Claim: Pfizer Vaccine Causes Neurological Damage in Recipients
Here is the Truth
But I'm not in the clickbait business, so what do I know.
SuperJail Warden
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I read an article on a reputable news site that explained that the articles and the headlines are written by different people.
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SuperJail Warden
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