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unnamednewbie13
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If she's super into your MTG card collection, keep her.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Oh Lord, I need to post later what I am doing with my MTG stuff. I am literally packing it all away in plastic containers. All of those weird boxes are getting their contents cataloged by software. And then it is all going into storage. I don't plan to open it all up until maybe I own a home where it can put all of the stuff on display in my pig man cave.
unnamednewbie13
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You've got all this stuff, but no big plans for a youtube channel where you use it, along with underglow behind the shelving, to frame your placard for 10k subscribers in the backdrop.

Wasted potential.
SuperJail Warden
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https://preview.redd.it/40voemtkrpe71.jpg?width=491&auto=webp&s=fee42cb3c46f57523e1953370f0061ca3aeacb5b
unnamednewbie13
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Losing your whole family to covid-19 can be a pretty depressing affair, I hear.

The suicide stuff is always very conveniently brought up, but then forgotten as soon as it doesn't fit the narrative. Disgruntled huffing from traditionalists objecting to the notion that maybe we should reevaluate stuff like time management and onerous workloads for students, work to improve toxic environments at schools, reduce future college debts, encourage better work environments and pay for future employees.
uziq
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such a dumb statistic.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
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It's funny because they love to discount suicides from the gun death statistics as part of the public health crisis.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,915|5821|USA

re: re: re: re: infodemic anecdote

More and more I'm having to hear how stupid mask mandates are and defenses for people saying mandatory vaccines are stupid.
The most frustrating part of this is she refuses to say where she got her information from that its not that serious since we're vaccinated so we don't have to care about it anymore. All even though my mom was hospitalized for weeks.
Common story (though at least she's vaccinated, if I'm reading that right).

What strikes me here is the "refuses to say where she got her information." It's a question I ask a lot when the topic is brought up, and I never get a straight answer. Once I was emailed a link to a chain clinic that said the vaccine had sugars and salts. Which point that was supposed to prove, I don't know, but the guy went back to being evasive on sources.

Sometimes I'll ask something like "do you read reddit?" "Yeah I read reddit." And I'm like "ok, which reddit?" *no answer*

Still haven't gotten a reply from that one link to a healthcare worker stories subreddit I sent.
unnamednewbie13
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+1,915|5821|USA

another reminder of this sort of thing:

‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients
https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/im-sorr … ients.html

Meanwhile, MTG on tour there recently, further entrenching non-vax pride, whatever that means to different people. "Biden's sending the government to take down your name and social security number, but we have guns!" Real piece of work.

This dynamic needs to be in that one Pandemic game, if it isn't already.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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can we stop using MTG
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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Tell that to Mac
Steve-0
Karma limited. Contact Admin to Be Promoted.
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i asked a guy in Colorado if he was vaccinated. he said no way he's taking the shot, because "he has O+ blood" and then looked at me to dispute his logic.

my only reply could be "i'm sorry you're O+, maybe soon there will be a way for you to avoid spreading this virus on to people you care about". there's no way i was i going to mention masks, i was only on vacation for six days.
unnamednewbie13
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Bunch in my circles aren't antivax in the usual sense, but they got sucked into the hysteria about these new ones in particular. "It hasn't been long enough," "or the vaccine companies have legal protections, why do they need legal protections?" "Who pays me if I get sick?"

One of hasn't gotten a jab for anything in years because *checks notes* "it makes me sick every time," so I guess I just hope their lucky streak so far doesn't run out irt the 'rona. Will selectively wear a mask in stores, but getting them to put one on to go into a mechanic's shop is like pulling out teeth. It's like an image thing they gotta maintain or something. Hopeless stuff in this country.

Not too long ago, resident scientist dilbert was in the vague "'they're unsafe'/'I'll wait'" camp.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I gave up trying to convince anyone to get vaccinated or wear a mask.   Most antivax people are in fact pig people. It's not worth it dealing with them at all.
unnamednewbie13
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+1,915|5821|USA

I in fact am probably lucky I didn't catch it from one of them while driving people around on occasion. I couldn't wait to get that vaccine. Checked on eligibility often.
uziq
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Steve-0 wrote:

i asked a guy in Colorado if he was vaccinated. he said no way he's taking the shot, because "he has O+ blood" and then looked at me to dispute his logic.

my only reply could be "i'm sorry you're O+, maybe soon there will be a way for you to avoid spreading this virus on to people you care about". there's no way i was i going to mention masks, i was only on vacation for six days.
stupid is as stupid dO+es.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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I have a Chinese friend who thinks zinc + whatever naturopathic remedy still works to combat covid. But she and her family were smart enough to get vaccinated.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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https://i.redd.it/w4aza171gqf71.jpg
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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I was fairly hesitant about AZ, at this point I would have been weighing up AZ vs long-covid but my second Pfizer dose is tomorrow - presumably thats really to trigger the GPS chip to start operating.

Aus target is for 70% vaccination to re-open to international travel, 70% seems to be failing hard in the US and UK, I'll be pissed if we re-open and all get infected with the next strain just to satisfy the travel junkies.
https://www.traveller.com.au/qantas-auc … ers-h1xjqh

Air miles etc should be outlawed, they're encouraging these nuts when they should be institutionalised.
#FreeBritney
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Schools are reopening in southern states right now. They open in August in those hot places.

Anyway, many of those states are banning mask mandates in schools and children under 12 cannot get vaccinated.
Children have been susceptible to Covid-19 all along. More than 4.1 million children have been diagnosed with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, accounting for 14.3 percent of all cases, according to the latest data from the American Academy of Pediatrics.

From July 15 to July 29, that percentage rose to 19 percent of weekly reported cases.

"Over the course of the first year of this pandemic, the myth existed that children never got very ill from Covid," Kline said. That was mainly because the number of pediatric cases was relatively low.

Because the delta variant is so contagious, he said, the increase in cases clearly shows the virus's potential, even in young, otherwise healthy children.
I knew a child who died from COVID while we were shut down. If you reopen schools with no vaccine, and no mitigation techniques, you are going to end up with dead kids. You won't get 600,000 dead kids but how many dead kids are acceptable? There are still stories in the news about people on their deathbed wishing they got vaccinated. You know there will be some parents out there saying goodbye to their kid while wishing they had sent them to school masked.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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One of my employees tested positive and another one is staying home until he gets his test results back.

Both antivax. Both could have most likely avoided this if they just got the vaccine. At this point I don't really have much sympathy.

Luckily neither of them were in the office last week. Still pisses me off.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,915|5821|USA

This is probably something companies should be given more leeway to make rules on if the government won't. Plenty to fear from covid, after-covid. Less so from your gay employee's gay marriage.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Florida attempted to prevent cruise lines from requiring vaccinations. The decree was struck down by the courts though. I suspect Florida and Texas will make more attempts to prevent businesses from mandating vaccines. Other red states will follow suite.

I am supportive of businesses deciding to mandate vaccines for their workers and customers. I don't like the government making a broad mandate that everyone needs to get it though.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,915|5821|USA

Imagine getting Florida as a starting point in a pandemic game. Easy mode.

Government isn't always "good," but businesses and The Free Market can't always be relied upon to do what's better for a society either. What happened to your anti-biz spirit? "Get a government job!" Why should the safety of entire communities and the workforce hinge on a mom & pop decision?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I think there is a legitimate argument that the government can't mandate you to get a medical procedure just to basically live life. COVID is bad but it's not that bad. I also don't believe the SCOTUS will go along with a total vaccination requirement. And if there is a mandate, the government needs to make it easier to get shots. If we are serious about this then there should be a hotline you can call to get someone from the government to come give you a shot. We waste money on worse things.

I do support the government giving businesses the tools to require vaccination through things like vaccine passports apps. There should be a federal government app for that. People will scream about privacy and big brother but like all complaints about big brother is moot nowadays since basic interactions with police can be life and death. The fact that the federal government knows I went to a rave worries me less than the cop watching me park my car at work.

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