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i'm also just SHOOK that you think someone pasting the adagio for strings into a trance VST is 'experimentation'. like oh my god, the most obvious, kitschy, schlocky thing imaginable strikes you as bold experimentation. you really do not know much about contemporary music, larssen.

this is some music that is at the forefront of 'experimentation' with new technologies, including novel synthesis, machine learning/AI, and new form (e.g. polyrhythms, microtuning, looking at non-western musics).











importing a fucking melody from a fucking 1930s adagio and sticking it on 'trance vroom vroom' mode is NOT experimentation.

you just have no exposure to this music but make strong pronouncements and have strong opinions. it's a bad combination. you're impressed by tacky things like tiesto's 'adagio for strings' and then quickly dismiss anything outside of your (extremely limited) sphere of exposure as 'music for people out of their heads on drugs'. it's just funny. if i'm a 'type' then very much so are you: a normie.

i'm not a self-styled DJ. i've DJ'd in bars and clubs and lived with promoters for most of my 20s. i used to do live streams for bf2s’ers ffs. half of my friends make their living by producing music and DJ'ing, and putting on parties, hosting radio shows, touring around europe, etc. what's self-styled about it? my whole social life and milieux is structured around music. i’ve bought records and invested 10,000s of hours into this hobby in the last decade or more. i know more about this music than you do, it's really that simple.

you have a really hard time admitting to ignorance on any topic. when someone shows up with more expertise than you, you quickly deflect into 'well, now, you're just being rude'-type mock-affront. it's boring. stop dismissing music as 'drug-taking trash' and substituting your own basic, white-bread idiot variations of the same. go and dig a little deeper. it's really not hard to discover any of this stuff in the era of the internet. it's all just a click away.

you also just seem plainly confused. i never dismissed tiesto’s evident commercial success: i said you’re at the consumer end of the spectrum, picking up on a very certain type of music (true) and that tiesto’s music is hardly ‘experimental’ (also true). importing some strings into a trance song is not avant-garde; actually it’s more like après-garde. that shit is just so obvious that it’s borderline corny. and that’s fine. that’s what tiesto does: huge stadium events for people to throw their hands in the air, etc. all i’ve said above, not controversially, is that you’re at this end of the musical spectrum and don’t know anything about ‘deep house’ or musical originators.

Ah well, you can insulate yourself in your echo chamber without me interrupting you.

this is basically a normie credo. anything that isn't straight-up commercial, bestselling, beatport100-topping music = 'echo chamber'. it's a perfect formulation. never mind that these 'scenes' and communities, networks, record stores, clubs, etc, have existed for literally 40 years at this point. never mind that all the artists i've named are world-touring DJs (notice theo parrish is being interviewed by german TV in that youtube video i linked?) no, it's an 'echo chamber'. anything that larssen hasn't heard of, whilst grazing on the hillsides of commercial culture, is irrelevant! fucking LOL.

Last edited by uziq (2020-12-20 05:29:28)

'internet bullying' lmao.

well at least we have a confession, in the music thread, that you don't know much at all about the music you've been berating and arguing about for 10 pages. that could have saved a lot of hassle, eh?

Have you not noticed that the only moments you believe the discussion is actually 'edifying' and good, are exclusively moments in which we agree or are very close to agreeing?

no, i call a conversation edifying when two people have at least a semblance of familiarity with a topic. when a person who knows nothing tries to argue that something is 'bad' with a person who knows something, it can only devolve into a teacher-student dynamic, in the very best case scenario. it would be like me trying to argue with a polish person about polish grammar whilst only being able to say 'hello' and 'goodbye'. it's not edifying because there's just no grounds for enlightening conversation, not because 'uzique doesn't like it'. i mean, you don't even know the basics of music production, you don't even know what a producer does and what a DJ does, and what distinguishes them ... and yet you expect a long conversation about the intricacies of deep house? haha. you evidently think people can sit down in front of music software and just summon up a tune, even if you call the results 'bleeps and bloops' or whatever. errr you really do not have even the beginning of a clue, sorry.

and oh, right, you fumbling around and misusing terms like 'making music on dj software' and 'deep-prog house' was actually you, um, being meta- and ironic, and trying out a thought-experiment on me, to test my response ... riiiiight. fucking lol, i'm deddddd.

Last edited by uziq (2020-12-20 06:44:20)

agreed. the music piece, though, is very powerfull even without sw context, imo.

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That scene was so excessive for a movie marketed heavily towards children. Who wants to take their 8-year-old to go see their superhero slaughter a bunch of other kids and then melt on the shores of Lava Falls. It went from X-Men to Hellraiser at the flip of a switch.

I believe seeing Vader get toasted counts as a big pay off for having to watch 9 hours of children sci-fi. It is what people signed up for in 1999. Revenge of the Sith was in fact the best Star Wars of the prequel trilogy because it actually was pretty dark in theme instead of a marvel movie like the Abrams trilogy. Same with Rogue One.

I would pay good money to be able to binge watch a Stars Wars sequel trilogy by Lucas. Just to see what he came up with.

g-g-g-g-god tier

this was on the discography i bought....yeah

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