Poll

Should America close military bases and stop aid to EU?

Close them all and stop aid.25%25% - 50
Just close bases now that they don't need protection.16%16% - 32
Just cut aid.7%7% - 14
Lower number of bases and aid.10%10% - 21
Lower just bases.5%5% - 10
Lower aid.3%3% - 6
Just cut the French out.32%32% - 65
Total: 198
DonFck
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+3,227|6873|Finland

https://members.aol.com/_ht_a/sunyday76/GetAlongGang/gagshowgraphic.jpg

Wow.. that was gay..
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afrocullions
Banned
+8|6792
sorry about the comma thing

yeah i enjoy the euros bashing us actually i mean prolly never met an american doesnt impact your life in the least and yet you bitch and moan about us all the time ..awesome
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6873|Finland

afrocullions wrote:

sorry about the comma thing

yeah i enjoy the euros bashing us actually i mean prolly never met an american doesnt impact your life in the least and yet you bitch and moan about us all the time ..awesome
Intolerance begins with generalization.. It's equally dumb to blame America as a whole for something, as it is to in return blame a group of countries (Europe) for something else..

Who can we blame?

It's not a question of blame, but more of expressing disappointment towards political leaders and their decicions which have been bad calls to begin with.

Who's bitching and moaning? Don't call it anti-America, it's anti-recent-political-decisionmaking-that-affects-everyone-in-a-global-economy..

Maybe not as catchy of a name, but..
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afrocullions
Banned
+8|6792
america has negatively impacted finlands economy?
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6873|Finland

Economy is global. If a major players economic situation becomes unstable in any way, the consecuenses will reflect countries on a global scale.

The China effect
Outsourcing
Wars in the Middle East
Border tariffs
Currency fluctuation
Social politics
Budget distribution
Taxes or lack there of
Trading in Governments bonds
etc.

So yes. All our economies as singularities affect the global market, our shared little playground..

Last edited by DonFck (2006-05-30 00:14:17)

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tonybls12
Member
+0|6784|yorkshire
you wont close any bases because you need them,
thats how you project your militery might around the world.
and what aid do you give the EU ?

ps we dont all hate all americans
just as we dont like all the euros,
( never met a frenchman that i liked )
Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6951|Sweden

afrocullions wrote:

actually youll find that just about every country wants to be american

listening to our music watching our movies wearing our clothers eating our food using our slang and eventually moving here to get out of shitholes like austrailia
I haven't listened to worthless american HipHop in ages. I prefer finnish music, and european techno. Sure we watch your movies thats true, and some of us wear your clothes. I don't, and i can only come up with one american brand of clothes that i have in my closet, and thats GAP. We sure as hell don't eat your food, that's why we aren't as fat as you guys. And for a start, please mention an american dish for me. I cant come up with one. And no, we don't use your slang, i don't say "yo", "ya", or "hood"

Last edited by Sh1fty2k5 (2006-05-29 23:52:58)

Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6916|Canberra, AUS
We seem to have forgotten:

A. America's foreign debt
B. America's foreign investment
C. Foreign investment in America

The last two contribute - I don't know - a few trillion dollars to the American economy? A lot of that comes from Europe, a lot from Asia and a fair bit from the Middle East.

Cutting that is about as smart as cutting your legs off - when you're a marathon runner.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6797

afrocullions wrote:

sorry about the comma thing

yeah i enjoy the euros bashing us actually i mean prolly never met an american doesnt impact your life in the least and yet you bitch and moan about us all the time ..awesome
Europeans are not bashing Americans. They are bashing American government policy. We disagree with the current US administration. I know many Americans and work with a few here in Dublin and they are fine people. I also lived in the US for 4 months at one point and met both nice and ignorant Americans. The US did help rebuild Europe but just because you a previous govenrments helped us we are not going to be held to ransom to support actions that are morally wrong and in fact illegal. If you had a just cause we would back it wholeheartedly.

A lot of the world does envy US life. But not Europe. We have comparable if not higher standards of living than in the USA. THe people who envy the US way of life are Bangladeshis who've been sowing soccer balls since they were 12 or the Mexicans who can't get decent employment in their own country. If their government did manage to improve the standard of living you can bet your bottom dollar that the flow of Mexicans would stop.

To clarify: the US does not send western european nations governmental aid. It does pay some countries money in return for land on which they have built strategically valuable bases.
mikkel
Member
+383|6842

afrocullions wrote:

sorry about the comma thing

yeah i enjoy the euros bashing us actually i mean prolly never met an american doesnt impact your life in the least and yet you bitch and moan about us all the time ..awesome
I had to pay an extra $35 over the normal amount per person for "oil and fuel" when I booked our summer cruise earlier this year. The effects of the war hits everyone, everywhere.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6931|Tampa Bay Florida
i lik cheese again
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7007|UK

afrocullions wrote:

hey douche thats the fuckin front page click on countries and scroll through all the countries that we give aid to ... and thats just one organization

heard of c.a.r.e ? rebuilt europe after ww2 ? rebuilt former yugoslav states ? fuck you douchefuck i know plenty about eu... i know that europe gives abosolutely nothing to US its a one way street and ungratefull fruits such as yourself wont make us stop helping because we know there are people in your continent that arent total arrogant asswipes like you and need help..

next time you try and talk shit like you are intelligent try to have anything valid to say or point out cuz just pointing your finger and saying stupid and nothing in refrence to makes you look like the stupid shit you are
lol what an ignoramus.

In responce to any america saved your ass in WWII, England didnt need saving, hitler after the abortion of operation sealion never had any intention of invading england. what would have happened is russia would have entered into an alliance with hitler because D-day never happened and then they would have probably conquered the world. Just imagine the combined numbers of german and russian soldiers all equiped with the best weaponary in the world, that being the german weapons.

Edit - Cheese is gooooood, i had a huge amount of cheddar last night, didnt give me nightmares at all....

Last edited by Vilham (2006-05-30 04:01:58)

DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6873|Finland

afrocullions, it's your turn to post now.

Last edited by DonFck (2006-05-30 04:26:51)

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mads
Member
+22|6821|haderslev, denmark

Cold Fussion wrote:

afrocullions wrote:

actually youll find that just about every country wants to be american

listening to our music watching our movies wearing our clothers eating our food using our slang and eventually moving here to get out of shitholes like austrailia
I'm sure we all want an american education. Especially in geography
sounds like fun - but... what should we do for the rest of the day then?
mads
Member
+22|6821|haderslev, denmark
to afrocullions...

you should do some more homework on your posts..

EVEN if USA gave sweden or/and ireland (although you seem having trouble deciding which part of the island)
some money, as a part of some programme - then it has got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the EU!!!!!!

they didn't gave the money to the EU, but to a country htat happens to be a member... but that fact had nothing to do with the money. just like I don't "aid" the USA just because I chip in, in some telethon in nevada...

believe it or not - there IS a difference in aiding a single country and then aiding the entire EU.. and the post is about military bases and aiding the EU - your posts aren't..

and PS. don't tell us the americans don't need europe, when your own goverment is begging several european countries to ALLOW america to put up your precious missile shield on european soil...
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6931|Tampa Bay Florida
As Elwood Blues would say :

"It's not lying, it was just bullshit"
Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6951|Sweden
Lets discuss Cheese instead. German cheese is crap.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7007|UK
Brit cheese rules tbh, cheddar owns.
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6873|Finland

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Lets discuss Cheese instead. German cheese is crap.
You have the approval of:

https://www.nwcts.org/images/plays/189x260_StinkyCheese.jpg

But, this IS Debate and Serious Talk..

Let's not bring cheese into this.. Create a cheese-thread instead!

Last edited by DonFck (2006-05-30 05:54:42)

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herrr_smity
Member
+156|6869|space command ur anus
brown cheese IT OWNS
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6797
Maybe America could provide us with 'Cheese Aid', enabling Europeans suffering from cheese deficiencies to get the dairy goodness they so desparately need.
afrocullions
Banned
+8|6792
to mads: Actually i decided not to do a thesis about us aid to Ireland or Sweden or wherever but i did find that we have been giving N.ireland aid in efforts to deal with the ira problems.

Beginning in 1986, the United States has contributed aid each year to the International Fund for Ireland, of which 75 percent is required to go to Northern Ireland. As the main contributor to the fund, the United States gave more than $300 million by 2001 and now gives about $25 million a year.
http://www.internationalfundforireland.com/

My question to the anti american irish is do you hate all 300 million of us or everyone but the millions that immigrated from your country ?

I dont think we give much if any aid to sweden looks like they are doing ok however we give lots of aid to former Yugoslav states and eastern europe and they are part of the EU.

to shitfy: America created house trance whatever you want to call it so youre gona have to stop listenin to it if you want to continue your hate crusade against america.

to vilham: Thats funny how you call me ignorant but dont know shit about history and decide to spread misinformation anyhow.. ill help you out. Germany was allied with Russia and they both attacked Poland but hitler hated the bolsheviks, the Russians werent aryan, and he attacked Russia in 1939. Hitler would have never allied with Russia and vice versa after he attacked them. Also if you knew your history youd know that there was a nazi diplomatic relation between england and hitler tried to ally with churchill.. but churchill was over here massaging roosevelts ballsack to save his ass.. yeah we did youre welcome

russia ally with hitler? youre a fucking dumbass...
DazBurt
Kinda Nice Guy!
+10|6903|In The Zone

afrocullions wrote:

churchill was over here massaging roosevelts ballsack to save his ass.. yeah we did youre welcome
Do not insult Winston Chirchill or you can suck the sweat off of my balls Dickhead
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7007|UK

afrocullions wrote:

to vilham: Thats funny how you call me ignorant but dont know shit about history and decide to spread misinformation anyhow.. ill help you out. Germany was allied with Russia and they both attacked Poland but hitler hated the bolsheviks, the Russians werent aryan, and he attacked Russia in 1939. Hitler would have never allied with Russia and vice versa after he attacked them. Also if you knew your history youd know that there was a nazi diplomatic relation between england and hitler tried to ally with churchill.. but churchill was over here massaging roosevelts ballsack to save his ass.. yeah we did youre welcome

russia ally with hitler? youre a fucking dumbass...
Guess you dont know that the reason D-Day occured when it did was due to the fact that Stalin threatened go into a pact with hitler because Russia couldnt take the pounding this information is agreed by hundreds of historians and documents from the world war. Heres a short list of some of the books that ive read that state this:

Stalin : A Biography
Adolf Hitler : The Definitive Biography
Pegasus Bridge - D-day: the daring british airbourne raid
D-day by Steven E. Ambrose
First Light
End of the Beginning
Stalingrad
Alamein: War without hope
Berlin

There you go, read up a bit.

I also know that Churchill didnt agree to ally with Hitler but dont kid yourself that it was because of Roosevelt, who at the time was licking Stalins ass just so he didnt submit to Hitler.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7007|UK

DazBurt wrote:

afrocullions wrote:

churchill was over here massaging roosevelts ballsack to save his ass.. yeah we did youre welcome
Do not insult Winston Chirchill or you can suck the sweat off of my balls Dickhead
Dont worry he doesnt realise that Roosevelt was licking Stalin the COMMY's balls. Btw you know roosevelt wasnt even supported by his own military and the reason the americans lost so many men in WWII was because it was their first real war thus their commanders were unexperienced.

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