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lil_droo
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uziq wrote:

it’s not different bro. obviously i’m sorry for your loss but you just illustrated perfectly how this works. every family has their ‘this is different’ scenario. every family has their own special losses and their own special celebrations. that way of thinking is the norm, especially in the west.

it doesn’t take many exceptions or ‘just this once’s for covid to spread. if anyone at your wake had the ‘vid then that’s a lot of epidemiological collateral.
I feel u but I still think it's different. We weren't gathering for the fuck of it like a normal christmas party or Thanksgiving dinner I think funerals/celebrations of life should be the only exceptions. Even ppl I know that had kids this year didn't throw baby showers or parties etc so mostly everyone has been good about slowing the spread
gang shit
uziq
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let's hope most people keep to that! i know my family aren't doing christmas this year.
unnamednewbie13
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Dilbert_X wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

If Jay ever comes back, he is going to spend a lot of time downplaying his old comments. He'll self righteously accuse us all of ghoulishly reveling in the lethal chaos. I particularly cite "you must be loving this!"

"Are you happy now? You got what you wanted."
I'm sure Jay is laughing his ass off that people are still talking about him.
That probably speaks more against him than us.
uziq
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https://twitter.com/mikestuchbery_/stat … 17611?s=21

haha, christ germany.

covid deniers likening themselves to holocaust victims ... russians who think stalin did nothing wrong ... polish neo-nazis ... i think it’s fair to say that collective memory, unless carefully taken care of and continually renewed, has a 50 year shelf-life and then we’re ready to fuck up all over again.

Last edited by uziq (2020-11-22 13:43:38)

SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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People on reddit found it hilarious that the lady throws a tantrum at the end. She probably built herself up for that speech and the guy just ruined her big moment.
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+633|5048|Washington St.
Did she turn around and sneeze?! Surely justice isn't that poetic right
unnamednewbie13
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+1,842|5529|USA

You can almost see her gathering dramatic energy for that exit.

*glances at larssen* "Wow."
Larssen
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Great news - the oxford/astrazeneca vaccine shows up to 90% efficacy, and no serious covid cases in the remaining 10%.

God I hope life is back to normal by the end of winter/early spring. As soon as I get my shot I'm going straight for the airport to catch up on some missed holidays and me time. First world problem for sure but was I fucking bummed out over covid. Finally had everything sorted here and was ready for some long stretches of time off and parties & then the damn bat flu comes in.
uziq
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it will take a good 6 months to a year to get everyone vaccinated and society back to normal. 2-3 working vaccines are only the beginning of a vast and complicated manufacturing, acquisition and logistics process. do you really think that everyone will be vaccinated and shooting off for holidays by february?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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The hardest part of the vaccination program will be distribution and convincing people to take a vaccine for a multitude of reasons. I can see some countries like Japan and South Korea providing free vaccination at home to everyone meanwhile in the U.S. you will need an insurance card and have to travel someplace to get your vaccine since we can't have anything nice in this country.
Larssen
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It's free here in Europe. End of winter is april around here, not february. I've read multiple statements which said or insinuated some 50-70% could be vaccinated by spring.

That's more than enough to let life resume as normal. If the spread is somewhat under control they will also need less & localised vaccine programs to keep it under control.

Western countries shouldn't have issues wrt distribution.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,687|5494|Oxferd Ohire

CDC wrote:

Vaccine doses purchased with U.S. taxpayer dollars will be given to the American people at no cost. However, vaccination providers will be able to charge an administration fee for giving the shot to someone
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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RTHKI wrote:

CDC wrote:

Vaccine doses purchased with U.S. taxpayer dollars will be given to the American people at no cost. However, vaccination providers will be able to charge an administration fee for giving the shot to someone
Why can't the government also cover the administration fee? It's still a barrier to entry that you will need an insurance card for. We can waste money blowing people up but can't find money to pay the healthcare workers to give the vaccine.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,687|5494|Oxferd Ohire
Blowing people up makes better movies
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+408|2477
Makes better youtube videos too. I am pro blowing people up especially if you have a camera. I just believe we have the resources to blow people up and also provide free at home vaccination. Maybe use census data to plan it out.
uziq
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Larssen wrote:

Great news - the oxford/astrazeneca vaccine shows up to 90% efficacy, and no serious covid cases in the remaining 10%.
also remember, according to dilbert 'oksferd' is a joke university for science. because margaret thatcher got a degree in chemistry there .

so for the record: turks are militant muslims, their way of life is incompatible in the west, turks in germany never assimilate. except when two modern german-turks, PhD'd scientists, are responsible for one of the first covid vaccine breakthroughs in the world.

oksferd is a joke university and no serious scientist goes there. except when it will deliver us all from covid in 2021.

you cannot make this shit up. remember guys, we're all out of touch with reality and dilbert has the score!
Larssen
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The best part about that vaccine is that it's 3 euros per dose, whereas the complicated mRNA ones are 20-35 euro. They can also be stored in a regular fridge, the others need to be kept at like -80C.

So this one will be easily distributed all over the world.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I just hope people continue to wear mask and take precautions when the vaccine is widely distributed. You are going to have to take my mask from my cold dead hands. I do not want to smell your breath. I don't want you to give me a cold. I don't want to deal with seasonal allergies as much either. If I have a mask on in 2022 that means I want to be left alone.
pirana6
Go Cougs!
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RTHKI wrote:

CDC wrote:

Vaccine doses purchased with U.S. taxpayer dollars will be given to the American people at no cost. However, vaccination providers will be able to charge an administration fee for giving the shot to someone
Of course....

It's like when Washington State outlawed landlords from charging a "move-in fee" because they were adding $200 to every middle-income person trying to rent an apartment for no obvious reason.
Immediately following the ban on those there was a $200 "paperwork and handling" fee on every apartment listing.

It really doesn't matter how much of the vaccine is paid for already, they're going to tack on some fee somewhere to get more money.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,842|5529|USA

Anything less would be socialism.
uziq
Member
+346|2209
8,000 americans dying in a week.

more people hospitalised currently than at the previous peak.

north-west the most affected even though it's sparsely populated.

one of the highest mortality rates anywhere in the world.

hmmm ... 2 months ago ...

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,842|5529|USA

lol, age-restricted
unnamednewbie13
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+1,842|5529|USA

Some states hit harder by food insecurity linked to COVID-19
https://www.feedstuffs.com/news/some-st … d-covid-19

Food insecurity in America is reaching an all-time high during the COVID-19 pandemic, but there are large regional differences in the severity of the impact.

Experts project that more than 50 million Americans will be food insecure in 2020, including about 17 million children, said Craig Gundersen, ACES distinguished professor in the department of agricultural and consumer economics at the University of Illinois.

Gundersen estimated food insecurity using Map the Meal Gap, an interactive model he developed for Feeding America, a nationwide network of more than 200 food banks in the U.S. For the current report, he combined Map the Meal Gap* data with projected unemployment numbers.
* https://map.feedingamerica.org

Former surgeon general Vivek Murthy, co-chair of the Biden coronavirus task force, appeared on “Fox News Sunday” and also gave an interview to National Public Radio. In both, he blamed the population, not the corporations and government, for the resurgence of COVID-19, citing what he called “pandemic fatigue.”

“People are letting down their guard in terms of social gatherings,” he said, citing dinner parties and other small-scale events. He said nothing about factories and warehouses where hundreds or thousands work side-by-side with barely a pretense of social distancing.

He called for a focus on “expanding testing capacity and our contact tracing force.” That is all well and good, but these measures do not prevent the spread of the virus, they only detect it.

He called for “evidence-based guidance for schools, businesses, and faith organizations,” language that presumes that schools and workplaces will stay open, and churches will hold services, regardless of a deadly pandemic.

When his Fox interviewer pressed him on Biden’s attitude to a lockdown, Murthy replied, “This is a measure of last resort,” adding, “If we just lock down, we’re going to exacerbate pandemic fatigue. We need to approach this with a scalpel rather than with the blunt force of an axe.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/1 … n16-1.html

Yes, yes the source, but it makes a good point. I don't think it's helpful to lay the bulk of the blame on what people do on their own while ignoring what they do at work.
unnamednewbie13
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+1,842|5529|USA

re: "NW?"

I'm not going to say washington's fantastic right now, though. According to worldometer, we're in the middle for new cases (quite concerning), but 46th for total cases/1m pop. Topping the first column is ohio, and the second column the dakotas. I've got a friend living in Ohio who still works in contact with people, and I'm quite concerned for his welfare in almost the same fashion I get asked about things by non-American buddies.

Doing better than another state right now though isn't much of a bragging point.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,687|5494|Oxferd Ohire
Being rural has its perks I guess
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png

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