How can I write all these walls of text and its like people read them, their brains glaze over, and shit comes out again.
welcome to the last 5 years of bf2s.
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Sure, i will try.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Can you name all the countries where death is the codified punishment for adultery?SuperJail Warden wrote:
Can you name me a country that is not Muslim that executes people for "adultery"?
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/27/asia … index.htmlA new law which comes into effect from next week will punish homosexual sex and adultery with death in the small southeast Asian kingdom of Brunei.
Beginning on April 3, any individuals found guilty of the offenses will be stoned to death, according to a new penal code. The punishment will be "witnessed by a group of Muslims."
Actually I give up. There are too many to list. Here is a list of countries that will stone you to death for adultery which can be an interesting starting point for adultery death penalty research.The Iranian judiciary says a man has been stoned to death for adultery - the first time it has confirmed such an execution in five years.
Jafar Kiani was executed last week in a village in north-west Qazvin province.
Amnesty International said Mr Kiani and Mokarrameh Ebrahimi, 43, were convicted of adultery more than a decade ago.
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Don't be a cuck. The Muslims are trying to blow you up everyday when you go to work at the Gay Registration Office.Larssen wrote:
How can I write all these walls of text and its like people read them, their brains glaze over, and shit comes out again.
That map is wrong. That map shows where public stoning is a form of punishment.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Sure, i will try.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Can you name all the countries where death is the codified punishment for adultery?SuperJail Warden wrote:
Can you name me a country that is not Muslim that executes people for "adultery"?https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/27/asia … index.htmlA new law which comes into effect from next week will punish homosexual sex and adultery with death in the small southeast Asian kingdom of Brunei.
Beginning on April 3, any individuals found guilty of the offenses will be stoned to death, according to a new penal code. The punishment will be "witnessed by a group of Muslims."Actually I give up. There are too many to list. Here is a list of countries that will stone you to death for adultery which can be an interesting starting point for adultery death penalty research.The Iranian judiciary says a man has been stoned to death for adultery - the first time it has confirmed such an execution in five years.
Jafar Kiani was executed last week in a village in north-west Qazvin province.
Amnesty International said Mr Kiani and Mokarrameh Ebrahimi, 43, were convicted of adultery more than a decade ago.
Seems like you actually don't have any idea and just threw out a random argument, yeah?
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I found the map while looking for countries with death as a punishment for adultery. Iran which is listed on both my map and the post of people killed for adultery. I am not going to waste my time doing an adultery research project for you.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
That map is wrong. That map shows where public stoning is a form of punishment.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Sure, i will try.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Can you name all the countries where death is the codified punishment for adultery?https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/27/asia … index.htmlA new law which comes into effect from next week will punish homosexual sex and adultery with death in the small southeast Asian kingdom of Brunei.
Beginning on April 3, any individuals found guilty of the offenses will be stoned to death, according to a new penal code. The punishment will be "witnessed by a group of Muslims."Actually I give up. There are too many to list. Here is a list of countries that will stone you to death for adultery which can be an interesting starting point for adultery death penalty research.The Iranian judiciary says a man has been stoned to death for adultery - the first time it has confirmed such an execution in five years.
Jafar Kiani was executed last week in a village in north-west Qazvin province.
Amnesty International said Mr Kiani and Mokarrameh Ebrahimi, 43, were convicted of adultery more than a decade ago.
Seems like you actually don't have any idea and just threw out a random argument, yeah?
Do you have a Christian state that is anyway analogous to the Islamic Republic of Iran? Brunei?
But you made it sound like punishment by death for adultery is common in the Muslim world when that clearly isn't the case. Its an exception.
Islamic extremism is...an extreme belief.
Extreme means not normal, ie rare.
If you would like me to provide rare examples of Christian fundamentalists acting barbaric I can, but using extreme examples isn't a good foundation for building an argument against something, is it? In fact, it deflates your argument more than it bolsters it.
Islamic extremism is...an extreme belief.
Extreme means not normal, ie rare.
If you would like me to provide rare examples of Christian fundamentalists acting barbaric I can, but using extreme examples isn't a good foundation for building an argument against something, is it? In fact, it deflates your argument more than it bolsters it.
I did just tell you about the decentralisation of Islam and how nationalist and extremist causes have co-opted the religion for their own purposes no. I even went so far to say that some aspects of Islam may incentivise more fundamentalism than in other religions, but it should be beyond doubt that the situation within these countries is multi-faceted and complex and not at all primarily or only caused by religion. Even if partially, it's hard to determine exactly what part or to what extent.
Even the reformation in christianity or the thirty years war had multitudes of causes, in which religion could be noted as 'one of' the reasons, and in which its role was primarily to provide some cultural binding and ideological support in dealing with, again, material, social, political, economic issues. Not to say that Martin Luther wasn't obviously motivated through his religious ideals and that this sentiment wasn't widely shared, but you don't start a revolt on ideology alone.
Having said so the state of Saudi Arabia and Iran are regrettable. Little known fact, but before the islamic revolution in Iran, Saudi Arabia was on its way to slowly but surely liberalise as well. After the revolution, promptly all cinemas were closed down and an even more extremist form of religious rule adopted instead.
Even the reformation in christianity or the thirty years war had multitudes of causes, in which religion could be noted as 'one of' the reasons, and in which its role was primarily to provide some cultural binding and ideological support in dealing with, again, material, social, political, economic issues. Not to say that Martin Luther wasn't obviously motivated through his religious ideals and that this sentiment wasn't widely shared, but you don't start a revolt on ideology alone.
Having said so the state of Saudi Arabia and Iran are regrettable. Little known fact, but before the islamic revolution in Iran, Saudi Arabia was on its way to slowly but surely liberalise as well. After the revolution, promptly all cinemas were closed down and an even more extremist form of religious rule adopted instead.
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I just checked a little more : Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran all have adultery as punishable by death. That's 300,000,000 Muslims who live under a state the can execute people for adultery. Over 10% of the Muslim population. Other Muslim countries still have illegal adultery period without executions. Indonesia, and Nigeria both have adultery as a crime which means almost a billion people or half the world's Muslim population lives in states you can be punished for adultery.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
But you made it sound like punishment by death for adultery is common in the Muslim world when that clearly isn't the case. Its an exception.
Islamic extremism is...an extreme belief.
Extreme means not normal, ie rare.
If you would like me to provide rare examples of Christian fundamentalists acting barbaric I can, but using extreme examples isn't a good foundation for building an argument against something, is it? In fact, it deflates your argument more than it bolsters it.
Again, very common to severely punish women for enjoying sex in those countries. Literally something almost only Muslims do. The Chinese don't even kill people for that.
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So Islamic extremism in parts of the world is tied up in culture, ethnic identity, tradition, and nationalism? Pretty racist honestly. More racist than anything I have said. This is what happens when you get involved in political correctness. You defend the Muslims so hard you become a racist in the process.Larssen wrote:
I did just tell you about the decentralisation of Islam and how nationalist and extremist causes have co-opted the religion for their own purposes no. I even went so far to say that some aspects of Islam may incentivise more fundamentalism than in other religions, but it should be beyond doubt that the situation within these countries is multi-faceted and complex and not at all primarily or only caused by religion. Even if partially, it's hard to determine exactly what part or to what extent.
Even the reformation in christianity or the thirty years war had multitudes of causes, in which religion could be noted as 'one of' the reasons, and in which its role was primarily to provide some cultural binding and ideological support in dealing with, again, material, social, political, economic issues. Not to say that Martin Luther wasn't obviously motivated through his religious ideals and that this sentiment wasn't widely shared, but you don't start a revolt on ideology alone.
Having said so the state of Saudi Arabia and Iran are regrettable. Little known fact, but before the islamic revolution in Iran, Saudi Arabia was on its way to slowly but surely liberalise as well. After the revolution, promptly all cinemas were closed down and an even more extremist form of religious rule adopted instead.
In how many states in the UNITED STATES is adultery illegal? Why do you care more about women in Iran than those in your own backyard?
Do you see how spurious this argument is?
Do you see how spurious this argument is?
adultery is literally illegal in taiwan, dipshit.
Its illegal in like 15 states in the US.uziq wrote:
adultery is literally illegal in taiwan, dipshit.
Wonder how he feels about the laws in Catholic Phillipines?
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When was the last time anyone in the U.S. was killed for adultery? how often do people seriously get arrested for it?KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
In how many states in the UNITED STATES is adultery illegal? Why do you care more about women in Iran than those in your own backyard?
Do you see how spurious this argument is?
How often do people seriously get killed in Iran or Pakistan for adultery?
Don't be stupid
Don't be stupid
do you seriously think everyone caught committing adultery in islamic countries is stoned to death or given a long jail term or something?
most of the times it is recognised as a sin/moral crime, solved via family dispute and arbitration. that's what the shariah courts are, in the main. you're making out like 300 million people are on the cusp of being stoned in a public square for an extramarital affair.
most of the times it is recognised as a sin/moral crime, solved via family dispute and arbitration. that's what the shariah courts are, in the main. you're making out like 300 million people are on the cusp of being stoned in a public square for an extramarital affair.
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I already posted a link to Iran killing a guy for adultery within living memory.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
How often do people seriously get killed in Iran or Pakistan for adultery?
Don't be stupid
iran and saudi are not representative of the islamic world, though, not even the rest of the countries you list where it's an official crime.
christian countries do punish things like homosexuality by death. you wouldn't take some random government in central africa as representative of the christian world, though.
christian countries do punish things like homosexuality by death. you wouldn't take some random government in central africa as representative of the christian world, though.
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Okay, that's a relief to know it's only up to someone's dad or a Karen whether you get stoned or have to pay money $25,000 because you got laid. I would love to live under this system.uziq wrote:
do you seriously think everyone caught committing adultery in islamic countries is stoned to death or given a long jail term or something?
most of the times it is recognised as a sin/moral crime, solved via family dispute and arbitration. that's what the shariah courts are, in the main. you're making out like 300 million people are on the cusp of being stoned in a public square for an extramarital affair.
you make it sound like adultery is widely accepted without punishment or social consequence in the west. errrr it's not.
how many people have to pay alimony or go through a costly divorce because of it? it has consequences. a spouse can take you for more than $25,000 if you break a marriage contract by adultery. come on, use your fucking head. there is an entire industry in the civil law courts and arbitration process based around 'punishing' adultery.
how many people have to pay alimony or go through a costly divorce because of it? it has consequences. a spouse can take you for more than $25,000 if you break a marriage contract by adultery. come on, use your fucking head. there is an entire industry in the civil law courts and arbitration process based around 'punishing' adultery.
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Iran is the largest Shiite country and the leader of that sect. Saudi Arabia literally has a centuries old fancy title giving them legitimacy as a leader of the Islamic world. "Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques"uziq wrote:
iran and saudi are not representative of the islamic world, though, not even the rest of the countries you list where it's an official crime.
christian countries do punish things like homosexuality by death. you wouldn't take some random government in central africa as representative of the christian world, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custodian … ly_Mosques
And please tell me where I am wrong regarding Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Iran offing people for adultery? Please show me proof adultery is legal in Nigeria and Indonesia.
iran and saudi arabia are hardline theocratic states. how many muslims in the world live in theocracies with religious police and extremely febrile political relations?
yes okay and christianity in the levant or israel-palestine is representative of the faith globally. they have some fancy old titles! the church of the holy sepulchre! the order of st john!SuperJail Warden wrote:
Saudi Arabia literally has a centuries old fancy title giving them legitimacy as a leader of the Islamic world. "Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custodian … ly_Mosques
salamanca is the centre of the christian world. people go on pilgrimages there!
my point was the majority of the world's muslims do not live in saudi society and do not follow that extreme interpretation of sunni islam.
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A 100,000,000 just between those two countries. I already showed that almost half the world's Muslims live in states where adultery is illegal. Probably same thing with the gays. Child marriage is probably okay in those places to even it all out though?uziq wrote:
iran and saudi arabia are hardline theocratic states. how many muslims in the world live in theocracies with religious police and extremely febrile political relations?
100 mill out of 1.8 billion? and you're taking them as representative of the entire faith? ok, go ahead. i'm sure that makes sense in your head.
adultery was illegal in most of europe until the 1970s and 1980s, fyi. in britain you could still legally rape your wife until the 1990s. i guess that evens things out too?
adultery was illegal in most of europe until the 1970s and 1980s, fyi. in britain you could still legally rape your wife until the 1990s. i guess that evens things out too?