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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
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For at least the past year now ever since I came across it in an older GoPro ad, I've been wanting to go to Tomorrowland in Belgium.  Unfortunately because I live in the US, it's going to be probably almost a $2,000 endeavor.  I wish they would start the US version back up, but there's also Ultra in Miami(though I've heard it's trashy) if I want to stay on the East Coast and then there's also EDC in Vegas, they also host an event in Orlando at some other point in the year.  All this of course would be after the COVID thing is over.
uziq
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trust me, tomorrowland in belgium is pretty trashy too. save your money and go to an Ultra, if that's your thing. or something like Movement at detroit.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+353|5438|Riva, MD
I'll have to look into that one, I think Detroit would be just a little bit closer and thus hopefully a bit cheaper on flights, plus I think it's also a Delta hub so that helps.  I'm not expecting a bargain but I would hope not to blow so much of my budget on travel.  I just don't want to give those aviation industry assholes any more money for their ridiculous non-refundable tickets in case an event gets canceled again, I've had it happen twice already this year.
DesertFox-
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Don't know if it's the Midwesterner in me that makes me think that it's only 8 hrs/550 miles to make the drive.
uziq
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at those huge EDM festivals, or the big european hardstyle or trance events, it's mostly the same agencies rostering the same big-name acts anyway. not worth travelling half-way around the world to hear doof doof doof and look at bright lights if there's the same thing happening on your doorstep.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+353|5438|Riva, MD

DesertFox- wrote:

Don't know if it's the Midwesterner in me that makes me think that it's only 8 hrs/550 miles to make the drive.
I hadn't actually mapped it out, but you're right, it's apparently only an 8 hour trip from me.  I used to do 8 hour rides regularly two or three times a year to Buffalo or Myrtle Beach so maybe that's worth the drive if I can get somebody to alternate with.

uziq wrote:

at those huge EDM festivals, or the big european hardstyle or trance events, it's mostly the same agencies rostering the same big-name acts anyway. not worth travelling half-way around the world to hear doof doof doof and look at bright lights if there's the same thing happening on your doorstep.
It makes sense, I think maybe I've just romanticized the idea of being on a continent that is entirely separate from the one that contains all of my problems, while also enjoying a festival dedicated to my favorite genres of music, and of all places, it would be in Europe where trance was born and is fully appreciated.  As far as I can tell, Trance has never really gotten widespread popularity in the US outside of the LGBT scene.  I always try to show people some of my favorite and they're mostly like "What is this gay techno shit?".  Dubstep unfortunately found much more popularity here over many other types of EDM music.  This country truly has garbage taste in music overall.

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_j5689_ wrote:

"What is this gay techno shit?".  Dubstep unfortunately found much more popularity here over many other types of EDM music.  This country truly has garbage taste in music overall.
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uziq
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yeah the problem with those statements is they're just so confused and a mess of total ignorance. which, yes, does reflect america's own relationship with electronic music. honestly, you'd need someone like KJ who was 'there' and had some experience of the rave era in the 90s/00s to really explain to you where it all went wrong.

techno is detroit music, it's one of america's biggest contributions to music in the last century. a successor to jazz, soul, r&b in many ways. house, too, which was yes more explicitly tied up in gay/LGBT scenes, drag, latino clubs, etc. in places like new york as well as chicago/detroit. but it's literally america's own home-grown music.

dubstep came from south london, and the version that eventually crossed the atlantic and blew up is a very, very strange mutant. it sounds nothing like the british original, which again was informed by lots of music before it, and had swing, syncopation, depth. UK dubstep came from a very specific 'scene' and an ecology of clubs where huge, immaculate sound was a high priority - itself a legacy of the west indian soundsystem cultures. the american version of 'dubstep' was some big-scale festival excrescence full of horrendous laptop-generated sawtooth sine waves. BWORGHHH BWUH BWUH BWUH. it was like the inverse of 'real' dubstep, stuff made for mobile-phone speakers, all tinny mid-range aggression (with helpings of tinnitus).

for an american in 2020 to say 'what is this gay techno shit? give me dubstep' involves a headache-inducing amount of unpicking.

Last edited by uziq (2020-09-28 03:13:49)

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