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SuperJail Warden
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Dauntless wrote:

Not sure this fits in with the Book Club crowd but I've just finished reading this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ride-Lifetime- … 0399592091

I have a lot of respect for this guy and the Disney company. Also seems like he will be running for president at some point. Hope it works out.
Disney's performance over the last decade has really been something. Their acquisition of Marvel in 2009 did a lot for comics and the entire superhero genre. It's a shame their Star Wars stuff didn't work out as well but I think that problem has more to do with Star Wars as a property than Disney mismanagement. Star Wars was never good?
unnamednewbie13
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It was never "good." Star Wars is Game of Thrones dumb. I think people's expectations of Disney Star Wars were through rose tinted glasses, but it's true that the new movies could have been better than they were. At least maybe the writers could have paid attention to Mark Hamill's input on his character. Also that the Emperor was "kept a secret" until the last movie seemed a little pointless. They revealed him without much fanfare and killed him shortly after. I credit Ian McDiarmid's camp performance greatly with carrying the prequels' rewatchability, even though they were supposed to be Vader's story. More at end of post.

Anyway, I haven't been able to find a Star Wars novel I could sit through for a very long time. I enjoyed Shadows of the Empire back during the early parts of the Dark Forces series of games, and was lucky enough to pick up I, Jedi (supposedly on a lot of 'top Star Wars novel' nerd lists) at random around the same time period. IIRC all Luke needed the main character for in a fight was holding his cloak. In sequel trilogy, Luke was a crazed hermit drinking alien milk pretty much nipple-to-glass. I guess maybe that makes the character "more real" or whatever, but he's a space wizard. Where was the composure he had when confronting the emperor in the original trilogy.
SuperJail Warden
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I like the reference to Dark Forces. I am sure you are old enough to remember those Windows 95 Star Wars games that had a bunch of FMV in it. Those exist only in my memories now.

I think Disney Star Wars is fundamentally doomed because it is owned by Disney. I mean my boomer dad is old enough to remember the original trilogy in theaters. He complains that the new movies were "kid movies" and not like the old ones for adults. I think that is rose tinted glasses but I suspect a lot of younger people that were old enough to remember the prequels actually in theaters are now old enough and have a taste for more mature and violent movies. Disney can't do a rated R Star Wars though so there will be a huge amount of people disappointed with the whole thing. The game of thrones writers were contracted to do a Star Wars trilogy that I suspect was Disney giving the R rated Star Wars thing a try. The GoT writers ruined that by rushing the ending to GoT.
unnamednewbie13
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I don't think I've ever found myself wanting Star Wars to be more violent than it already was. There's already mutilation, stabbings, and electrocution. The new movies have a patricide with a vicious stabbing. If I want to watch a cheesy space version of Saving Private Ryan, I'll put on Starship Troopers.

The CGI cartoons supposedly have fights that are probably about as good as it's going to get for the franchise. Just this clip (fight at 0:50ish) alone seems more "truly" Star Wars than Star Wars, if that makes sense at all. Something that wouldn't be out of place in an old samurai flick.

I might be wrong, but I don't remember that the first Dark Forces had FMV. But the sequel certainly did. There was a cheat you could activate in that which allowed you to chop off large body parts, but no still no blood. Die by the Sword, on the other hand, let you chop bits off polygon by polygon but blunted it with Pythonesque dialog.

tl;dr, "take it to the movie thread"
RTHKI
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Finished The Plague.

East of Eden is up next copies are available.
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SuperJail Warden
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How did you like the Plague? I didn't care for it.
RTHKI
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It was good. East of Eden is much better than that or Rand
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SuperJail Warden
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What do you think of the Christian undertones of East of Eden?
KEN-JENNINGS
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You mean how it's a retelling of Cain and Abel?

Wait until you realize the Christian undertones in Old Man and the Sea!
SuperJail Warden
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Way to spoil the book for RTHKI. You ruined it for him. Pray the rosary in repentance.
Superior Mind
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Ok, who’s read Graham Hancock? Of course he gets lambasted as a pseudoscientist, but I met him and think he’s an interesting guy. I think he’s on to something as well in regards his work.
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What bloody man is that? NOT MACBETH

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