The deaths from the 50,000 new cases is going to be on a 2 week lag. The deaths we have now are from the time we were only doing 20,000 cases a day
RIP Phil Hartman
Haha I am? Wanting to improve society is socialism?Jay wrote:
ken laid out his personal manifesto. He's wholly a socialist.Dilbert_X wrote:
You're still confusing social democracy with communism, its as if you're stupid or something.Jay wrote:
What made you so self loathing? By all societal measures you're relatively successful and yet you believe in a political system and support a movement that would destroy it all. Is it just residual edginess from your youth? I get the 20 something Marxists, they've got nothing invested in society yet. You do.
Bottom line is you have 100% self-interest and 0% empathy.
Now that you've got yourself a teensy bit ahead of your ghetto start, thanks to the govt assistance packages you took advantage of, you don't want anyone else getting anywhere.
jay identifies way more with capitalism and the capitalist class than he does with democracy and his supposedly 'libertarian' ideology.
which is ironic because he is a worker and not a capitalist. it's far more in his interests to argue for the virtues of democracy rather than the market, which has done nothing for him, much unlike the democratic state.
which is ironic because he is a worker and not a capitalist. it's far more in his interests to argue for the virtues of democracy rather than the market, which has done nothing for him, much unlike the democratic state.
COVID is out of control. Every day a new record. It seems to have migrated back north. Literally the worst managed outbreak in the entire world.
'Murica
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/02/us/a … index.html(CNN)Some young people in Alabama are throwing Covid-19 parties, a disturbing competition where people who have coronavirus attend and the first person to get infected receives a payout, local officials said.
The parties are being held in Tuscaloosa, and infected people are urged to attend so others can intentionally contract the virus, City Council member Sonya McKinstry told CNN. She said she heard about the trend from fire officials.
"We thought that was kind of a rumors at first. We did some research, not only do the doctors' offices confirm it, but the state confirmed they also had the same information," she said.
During a presentation to the City Council this week, Fire Chief Randy Smith also said young people in the city are throwing parties with a payout if they catch coronavirus, McKinstry said.
The first person confirmed by a doctor to have coronavirus after the exposure wins the money made off the ticket sales, she said. Over the past few weeks, there have been several parties in the city and surrounding areas, and probably more that officials don't know about, she added.
"It makes me furious," McKinstry said. "Furious to the fact that something that is so serious and deadly is being taken for granted. Not only is it irresponsible, but you could contract the virus and take it home to your parents or grandparents."
The city is working on getting the word out and breaking up such parties. It also passed a mask ordinance this week that goes into effect Monday.
"This is not political. This is a public health issue. People are dying and there is no cure. We have to do whatever we can to save as many lives as possible, McKinstry said.
CNN has reached out to the Alabama Health Department for comment. The state has reported about 39,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 1,000 deaths.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
It migrated huh? Didn't have anything to do with tens of thousands of people having protest parties in the streets sans mask did it?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
just remember when jay said that it was no big deal, and it was basically already over, and you were past the worst of it, etc etc etc
didn't you go to a home depot without a mask whilst still carrying covid-19?Jay wrote:
It migrated huh? Didn't have anything to do with tens of thousands of people having protest parties in the streets sans mask did it?
of course, you'll start shifting all the blame onto BLM now, and not, say, the leadership who completely undermined all covid lockdown measures, and continually downplayed its severity.
Why do you even care? The people were contributing to herd immunity. You should be thanking them.Jay wrote:
It migrated huh? Didn't have anything to do with tens of thousands of people having protest parties in the streets sans mask did it?
You're not even American and you still have this partisan stuff down pat. Yeah, couldn't be tens of thousands of people in close quarters without masks on. Gotta be something else. Orange man bad.uziq wrote:
didn't you go to a home depot without a mask whilst still carrying covid-19?Jay wrote:
It migrated huh? Didn't have anything to do with tens of thousands of people having protest parties in the streets sans mask did it?
of course, you'll start shifting all the blame onto BLM now, and not, say, the leadership who completely undermined all covid lockdown measures, and continually downplayed its severity.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I just think it's laughable that you think Clinton would've been more successful controlling the American population.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Why do you even care? The people were contributing to herd immunity. You should be thanking them.Jay wrote:
It migrated huh? Didn't have anything to do with tens of thousands of people having protest parties in the streets sans mask did it?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
You don't need to have the SS in the streets forcing people inside their homes to have had a better response than Trump provided. Again and again I will point out that there should have been absolutely no shortages of medical equipment and PPE in our country. Schools shouldn't be scrambling to find money in the budget to modify schools to be COVID safe. These are all easy things to do. Trump just doesn't care to actually do any of it.Jay wrote:
I just think it's laughable that you think Clinton would've been more successful controlling the American population.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Why do you even care? The people were contributing to herd immunity. You should be thanking them.Jay wrote:
It migrated huh? Didn't have anything to do with tens of thousands of people having protest parties in the streets sans mask did it?
Ok. And again and again I will point out that it takes time to produce stuff, especially when Chinese buyers scooped up everything off the shelves and shipped it back home right before the pandemic hit us. It's not normal to need a billion masks overnight. And as for schools, they always claim poverty. They'll do what they always do, cut sports and after school programs and beg for more tax increases to pay your superintendent another 50k/yr.SuperJail Warden wrote:
You don't need to have the SS in the streets forcing people inside their homes to have had a better response than Trump provided. Again and again I will point out that there should have been absolutely no shortages of medical equipment and PPE in our country. Schools shouldn't be scrambling to find money in the budget to modify schools to be COVID safe. These are all easy things to do. Trump just doesn't care to actually do any of it.Jay wrote:
I just think it's laughable that you think Clinton would've been more successful controlling the American population.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Why do you even care? The people were contributing to herd immunity. You should be thanking them.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
i'm not about to start blaming BLM protestors when for 4 weeks before BLM even erupted, it was the american right-wing who were flouting lockdown rules, arguing over not wearing masks, and storming capitol buildings to exercise their right to spread lethal pathogens.Jay wrote:
You're not even American and you still have this partisan stuff down pat. Yeah, couldn't be tens of thousands of people in close quarters without masks on. Gotta be something else. Orange man bad.uziq wrote:
didn't you go to a home depot without a mask whilst still carrying covid-19?Jay wrote:
It migrated huh? Didn't have anything to do with tens of thousands of people having protest parties in the streets sans mask did it?
of course, you'll start shifting all the blame onto BLM now, and not, say, the leadership who completely undermined all covid lockdown measures, and continually downplayed its severity.
i think you might have a few partisan blindspots yourself.
why are you so mad at black people protesting in the street and weren't outraged at the white republicans? you at least tacitly endorsed all that and said 'see, told you so, the fine upstanding individual citizen won't take this sort of tyranny ...'
as macbeth said, you should be glad that militia LARPer and social revolutionaries alike are testing your herd immunity thesis. i'm really, really surprised that you find reason to criticise BLM!
wow you are trying really, really hard to forget the 2 months of official inaction over covid-19.Jay wrote:
Ok. And again and again I will point out that it takes time to produce stuff, especially when Chinese buyers scooped up everything off the shelves and shipped it back home right before the pandemic hit us. It's not normal to need a billion masks overnight. And as for schools, they always claim poverty. They'll do what they always do, cut sports and after school programs and beg for more tax increases to pay your superintendent another 50k/yr.SuperJail Warden wrote:
You don't need to have the SS in the streets forcing people inside their homes to have had a better response than Trump provided. Again and again I will point out that there should have been absolutely no shortages of medical equipment and PPE in our country. Schools shouldn't be scrambling to find money in the budget to modify schools to be COVID safe. These are all easy things to do. Trump just doesn't care to actually do any of it.Jay wrote:
I just think it's laughable that you think Clinton would've been more successful controlling the American population.
why does america far and away have the worst outbreak in the world, then? every other nation were dealing with roughly the same timeline of outbreaks.
trump's admin have failed and failed uniquely. stop prevaricating.
The LARPers were out there for one day, in one state. The SJWs have been out in the street for weeks.uziq wrote:
i'm not about to start blaming BLM protestors when for 4 weeks before BLM even erupted, it was the american right-wing who were flouting lockdown rules, arguing over not wearing masks, and storming capitol buildings to exercise their right to spread lethal pathogens.Jay wrote:
You're not even American and you still have this partisan stuff down pat. Yeah, couldn't be tens of thousands of people in close quarters without masks on. Gotta be something else. Orange man bad.uziq wrote:
didn't you go to a home depot without a mask whilst still carrying covid-19?
of course, you'll start shifting all the blame onto BLM now, and not, say, the leadership who completely undermined all covid lockdown measures, and continually downplayed its severity.
i think you might have a few partisan blindspots yourself.
why are you so mad at black people protesting in the street and weren't outraged at the white republicans? you at least tacitly endorsed all that and said 'see, told you so, the fine upstanding individual citizen won't take this sort of tyranny ...'
as macbeth said, you should be glad that militia LARPer and social revolutionaries alike are testing your herd immunity thesis. i'm really, really surprised that you find reason to criticise BLM!
The real difference is that the political side that came down so hard and heavy on the LARPers has been bending over backwards to justify and wave off any concerns when it's their own people in the streets. No one likes a hypocrite.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
yep, just like the far-right is 4 people, the only trump-supporters who ever flouted lockdown were the michigan militia.
sure weren't any republicans going around anywhere else loudly protesting the lockdown measures.
sure isn't any widespread backlash about wearing masks in public anywhere else.
the right-wing in america has been totally anti-lockdown and anti-'taking my freedom'. you don't have the right to then get angry at BLM people for, er, doing exactly what the fuck all right-wingers have been protesting the right to do.
sure weren't any republicans going around anywhere else loudly protesting the lockdown measures.
sure isn't any widespread backlash about wearing masks in public anywhere else.
the right-wing in america has been totally anti-lockdown and anti-'taking my freedom'. you don't have the right to then get angry at BLM people for, er, doing exactly what the fuck all right-wingers have been protesting the right to do.
We would still have 50 different responses with 50 different populations, some of whom would defy everything that the Clinton administration would have said, just like some have undermined everything the Trump administration has done. Frankly, I have no idea what Trump has done and I don't expect to ever get a real answer. Everything you and I get is filtered through a media that hates the guys guts and has every reason to make him look bad. The guy might have been trying his ass off in private. Who knows?uziq wrote:
wow you are trying really, really hard to forget the 2 months of official inaction over covid-19.Jay wrote:
Ok. And again and again I will point out that it takes time to produce stuff, especially when Chinese buyers scooped up everything off the shelves and shipped it back home right before the pandemic hit us. It's not normal to need a billion masks overnight. And as for schools, they always claim poverty. They'll do what they always do, cut sports and after school programs and beg for more tax increases to pay your superintendent another 50k/yr.SuperJail Warden wrote:
You don't need to have the SS in the streets forcing people inside their homes to have had a better response than Trump provided. Again and again I will point out that there should have been absolutely no shortages of medical equipment and PPE in our country. Schools shouldn't be scrambling to find money in the budget to modify schools to be COVID safe. These are all easy things to do. Trump just doesn't care to actually do any of it.
why does america far and away have the worst outbreak in the world, then? every other nation were dealing with roughly the same timeline of outbreaks.
trump's admin have failed and failed uniquely. stop prevaricating.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
the federal government exists to take charge and organise all 50 states in matters like pandemics. that's what it's for. war, crisis response, mass mobilisation at short notice.
you talk complete and utter fucking nonsense.
you talk complete and utter fucking nonsense.
Why does it have to be right wing? Most small business owners are furious that they were shut down and that they got such shitty communications from the people that shut them down. There are just as many angry liberals as conservatives right now.uziq wrote:
yep, just like the far-right is 4 people, the only trump-supporters who ever flouted lockdown were the michigan militia.
sure weren't any republicans going around anywhere else loudly protesting the lockdown measures.
sure isn't any widespread backlash about wearing masks in public anywhere else.
the right-wing in america has been totally anti-lockdown and anti-'taking my freedom'. you don't have the right to then get angry at BLM people for, er, doing exactly what the fuck all right-wingers have been protesting the right to do.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Assuming the Chinese did steal everything (???), what's wrong with the federal government producing things like school bus COVID modification kits, facemask for children returning to schools, classroom modification supplies, etc. Why do schools need to cut programs instead of getting money from the federal government who had time to come up with $3 trillion for corporations but none for schools?Jay wrote:
Ok. And again and again I will point out that it takes time to produce stuff, especially when Chinese buyers scooped up everything off the shelves and shipped it back home right before the pandemic hit us. It's not normal to need a billion masks overnight. And as for schools, they always claim poverty. They'll do what they always do, cut sports and after school programs and beg for more tax increases to pay your superintendent another 50k/yr.SuperJail Warden wrote:
You don't need to have the SS in the streets forcing people inside their homes to have had a better response than Trump provided. Again and again I will point out that there should have been absolutely no shortages of medical equipment and PPE in our country. Schools shouldn't be scrambling to find money in the budget to modify schools to be COVID safe. These are all easy things to do. Trump just doesn't care to actually do any of it.Jay wrote:
I just think it's laughable that you think Clinton would've been more successful controlling the American population.
it's almost like what they really want is a government safety net.