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2020-06-12 17:10:48
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:


Well you already explained that your dad is a complete fuck face so I shouldn't be surprised.
Yeah? He's a civil war buff. He wrote published articles in civil war magazines. He used to wargame with painted civil war figurines. Total nerd about all that stuff. He took me to Gettysburg and Antietam as a kid. Hell, I remember him wasting two years of his life trying to get the 52nd New York Infantry Regiment off the ground as a reenactor regiment because it was a German-American regiment and he wanted to cosplay as a 19th century German immigrant soldier. It's all harmless stuff.
Picking the side of the Confederacy when you are a New Yorker is a deliberate sign. Same with the people flying Confederate flags in Union states. Heritage my ass.
Someone has to play the Confederates. We're talking re-enactments in upstate New York here. Not a lot of southerners driving up to live in a field for a long weekend in Monroe.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2020-06-12 17:14:37
uziq
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

haha civil war magazines. no wonder you fancied yourself as a historian late in life. those things are for amateurs and dilettantes. it’s the history equivalent of painting warhammer.
Well, when you grow up surrounded by history books, and have stumped every history teacher/professor you've had with questions deeper than they have the ability to answer, sometimes you think you could do a better job than them, yes.
good job stumping high school teachers. maybe do a degree? the study of any subject tends to start then.
2020-06-12 17:18:15
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:


Yeah? He's a civil war buff. He wrote published articles in civil war magazines. He used to wargame with painted civil war figurines. Total nerd about all that stuff. He took me to Gettysburg and Antietam as a kid. Hell, I remember him wasting two years of his life trying to get the 52nd New York Infantry Regiment off the ground as a reenactor regiment because it was a German-American regiment and he wanted to cosplay as a 19th century German immigrant soldier. It's all harmless stuff.
Picking the side of the Confederacy when you are a New Yorker is a deliberate sign. Same with the people flying Confederate flags in Union states. Heritage my ass.
Someone has to play the Confederates. We're talking re-enactments in upstate New York here. Not a lot of southerners driving up to live in a field for a long weekend in Monroe.
Playing a role as a reenactor and getting a flag violently etched onto your body is an order of magnitude of difference. I like playing games and reading about Medieval history. I don't have to get the coat of arms of Charles V to enjoy that stuff.
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2020-06-12 17:18:28
Jay
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uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

haha civil war magazines. no wonder you fancied yourself as a historian late in life. those things are for amateurs and dilettantes. it’s the history equivalent of painting warhammer.
Well, when you grow up surrounded by history books, and have stumped every history teacher/professor you've had with questions deeper than they have the ability to answer, sometimes you think you could do a better job than them, yes.
good job stumping high school teachers. maybe do a degree? the study of any subject tends to start then.
Does it? For most people, the end of study seems to happen right around the time they attain their parchment.

Plenty of supposed amateurs do better work than the educated.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2020-06-12 17:23:18
Jay
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Thoughts on CHAZ?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2020-06-12 17:30:46
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:


Well, when you grow up surrounded by history books, and have stumped every history teacher/professor you've had with questions deeper than they have the ability to answer, sometimes you think you could do a better job than them, yes.
good job stumping high school teachers. maybe do a degree? the study of any subject tends to start then.
Does it? For most people, the end of study seems to happen right around the time they attain their parchment.

Plenty of supposed amateurs do better work than the educated.
Better what? Presentation? Writing? Making Youtube videos? Sure. Knowledge of a subject? Nah. I think I can write better than some historians. I don't have the time and access to read obscure sources that are out of print. You literally have to spend your whole life studying one subject to come across and get access to a lot of things.
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2020-06-12 17:32:43
SuperJail Warden
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Jay wrote:

Thoughts on CHAZ?
Trump should send in the 101st Airborne Division to establish control and start a civil war.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2020-06-12 17:43:01
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:


good job stumping high school teachers. maybe do a degree? the study of any subject tends to start then.
Does it? For most people, the end of study seems to happen right around the time they attain their parchment.

Plenty of supposed amateurs do better work than the educated.
Better what? Presentation? Writing? Making Youtube videos? Sure. Knowledge of a subject? Nah. I think I can write better than some historians. I don't have the time and access to read obscure sources that are out of print. You literally have to spend your whole life studying one subject to come across and get access to a lot of things.
You do, it requires dedication to become an expert in any field. It certainly doesn't require a degree, or a formal education in the subject matter, to gain expertise, but it does help open more doors before one becomes known as an expert, if only because it provides an easy signal of seriousness.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2020-06-12 17:45:42
SuperJail Warden
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

good job stumping high school teachers. maybe do a degree? the study of any subject tends to start then.
Does it? For most people, the end of study seems to happen right around the time they attain their parchment.

Plenty of supposed amateurs do better work than the educated.
Better what? Presentation? Writing? Making Youtube videos? Sure. Knowledge of a subject? Nah. I think I can write better than some historians. I don't have the time and access to read obscure sources that are out of print. You literally have to spend your whole life studying one subject to come across and get access to a lot of things.
I did my seminar thesis at RU on an account of the Fredericksburg Campaign by an obscure author named Ira Seymour Dodd. So obscure he doesn't even have a wikipedia article. The book was suggested to me by my Civil War class professor who writes about the Civil War for the New York Times Louis Masur I have a signed copy of his book that was published by Oxford University Press.

Probably the highlight of my highlight of my academic blah blah blah
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2020-06-12 21:42:16
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

great argument!

yes, anyone who wants to adjust the tax system must surely give away all of their wealth!

anyone who is pro-multiculturalism must marry into a muslim family and open their home to syrian refugees!

that's the only possible form these beliefs can take!
You're a hypocrite like Jay - everyone else should do what I say, but not me.

Why do you have the right to demand other peoples taxes be changed, you could just go ahead and effectively change your own.

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2020-06-12 21:44:00
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

It's funny how Dilbert hates multiculturalism but his favorite Asian porn star is fresh off the boat.

Go to 2:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRiiuS_yW58
Dilbert is going to eventually settle down and create some resentful hapas
or better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf6AASRt8qc
As a snuggle actress I'd say Alina Li has fully adopted western values, no multiculturalism required.
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2020-06-13 00:13:36
uziq
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

Jay wrote:

Well, when you grow up surrounded by history books, and have stumped every history teacher/professor you've had with questions deeper than they have the ability to answer, sometimes you think you could do a better job than them, yes.
good job stumping high school teachers. maybe do a degree? the study of any subject tends to start then.
Does it? For most people, the end of study seems to happen right around the time they attain their parchment.

Plenty of supposed amateurs do better work than the educated.
fanciful and completely untrue. i commissioned and gave out contracts for history books for 3 years, dipshit. i read thousands of manuscripts and proposals, ranging from agent-sold bidding on established pro’s work to unsolicited slush pile material, written in a garden shed by a person with a screw loose. professional historians with scholarly training were a league ahead of the humble home amateurs.

this is like one of those homespun old wives sayings. it’s bordering on some sort of religious theology. ‘no rich man shall ever get into heaven’ type stuff. it’s convenient how it’s always so very flattering for yourself, isn’t it?

if only because it provides an easy signal of seriousness.
this is also horse shit. you seem to view academia as merely ‘ticking boxes’ and making the right coo’ing noises, whereas the home autodidact could do the same thing without the mortarboard and tassels. it’s wrong. it’s not a mere ‘signal of seriousness’: it means you’ve taken time to become an expert in the field. that means you understand the state of scholarship in your subject, and that you’ve read all the monographs and keep up with the rapidly changing journals. it means you’ve attended symposia and colloquia, given talks, presented your ideas, had discussions and arguments with your peers, shaped your knowledge. nobody can write a good book or make a decent, original contribution until they understand that stuff. so much of historiography involves weaving a thread through all these sources, balancing arguments, making through lines. you can’t do that sat at home with a subscription to some fucking glossy history magazine full of articles about the best distressing techniques to achieve ‘authentic’-looking civil war tunic buttons.

no, jay, you could not write a history book as well as a history professor.

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2020-06-13 00:14:49
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

great argument!

yes, anyone who wants to adjust the tax system must surely give away all of their wealth!

anyone who is pro-multiculturalism must marry into a muslim family and open their home to syrian refugees!

that's the only possible form these beliefs can take!
You're a hypocrite like Jay - everyone else should do what I say, but not me.

Why do you have the right to demand other peoples taxes be changed, you could just go ahead and effectively change your own.
please, go and be thick in someone else’s pool.

i pay as much tax as anyone else. it’s not the case at all that i’m asking for one rule for everyone else and for me to be left alone. i would happily consent to the tax rates being raised to enlarge state services and public ownership of infrastructure. this seems to me a good way in a modern democracy to change levels of structural inequality. the rich utilise more tax loopholes and employ financial advisors to avoid as much tax as possible; i certainly don’t do that.

unsurprisingly, it seems your grasp of economics is about on a level with your grasp of biology and race. thoroughly victorian. yes, all economic redistribution should be down to charity and individual good works. ‘what’re you complaining about 11 year old street urchins being used as chimneysweeps and factory workers for? why don’t YOU take them in and turn your home into an orphanage?’

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2020-06-13 00:48:14
SuperJail Warden
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https://i.imgur.com/d5GdsPH.jpg
Lucky guy. Getting to be an urban Warlord.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2020-06-13 00:50:47
uziq
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a neat demonstration of what happens when anarchists and libertarians get their way. from society to Hobbes in about a week. the strong exerting their will over the weak and dispensing justice as they see fit.

there’s a video of that guy and his posse going around threatening people and taking their phones. lol.
2020-06-13 00:58:19
KEN-JENNINGS
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

Thoughts on CHAZ?
Trump should send in the 101st Airborne Division to establish control and start a civil war.
Its an interesting experiment. Youre a weirdo for thinking the government should *checks notes* invade a neighborhood.

Its entirely appropriate that an anarchist-adjacent movement calls their proto-state "CHAZ". The jokes write themselves.

Black people are still dying as a result of systemic racism. It's unacceptable and we should all continue to fight for justice.
2020-06-13 01:15:22
SuperJail Warden
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I was being sarcastic about starting a civil war. You derp.

The best thing the government could do is let them be until they get bored. The long term outcome is the area becomes a self-sustaining hipster fairground.

The worst thing the government can do is give them attention and a confrontation. The conservatives hyper ventilating about the whole thing is just going to get more support sent to it. More eyes on the thing will encourage people to want to replicate it elsewhere. Practice strategic patience.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2020-06-13 01:16:58
SuperJail Warden
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Drone strike the neighborhood.
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2020-06-13 01:20:37
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I was being sarcastic about starting a civil war. You derp.

The best thing the government could do is let them be until they get bored. The long term outcome is the area becomes a self-sustaining hipster fairground.

The worst thing the government can do is give them attention and a confrontation. The conservatives hyper ventilating about the whole thing is just going to get more support sent to it. More eyes on the thing will encourage people to want to replicate it elsewhere. Practice strategic patience.
about the best model in these cases is Christiania in copenhagen.
2020-06-13 06:38:08
Dilbert_X
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Black people are still dying as a result of systemic racism. It's unacceptable and we should all continue to fight for justice.
And black people are still dying because they are killing each other, in far greater numbers than the police could if it were their full time job.

Where's the outrage from the black community?
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2020-06-13 11:51:21
Larssen
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I have to say I appreciate some of the discussions on this forum as it allows me to somewhat refine raw political ideas/instincts into something more palatable and considered. Someone asked me about my opinion on BLM in my country today and the above helped quite a bit. I guess arguing with uziq until my head explodes is like target practice in a way.

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2020-06-13 11:59:41
unnamednewbie13
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Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne … one/?amp=1

Disgraceful. Caught on a lie, replace it with another lie in an edit. Articles goes on at some length.


NYPD lieutenant apologizes to colleagues for kneeling during protest
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nypd-lieuten … 57616.html

A lieutenant with the New York Police Department who knelt alongside George Floyd protesters apologized for doing so in an email to his colleagues, writing, "The cop in me wants to kick my own a--."
No doubt pressured to apologize for taking steps to maybe deescalate things between police and protesters. What a country.
2020-06-13 12:03:54
uziq
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Larssen wrote:

I have to say I appreciate some of the discussions on this forum as it allows me to somewhat refine raw political ideas/instincts into something more palatable and considered. Someone asked me about my opinion on BLM in my country today and the above helped quite a bit. I guess arguing with uziq until my head explodes is like target practice in a way.
it's all good fun. it's why i never understand why someone like jay loses his rag and threatens to beat people up. it's a fucking internet forum.
2020-06-13 12:35:01
SuperJail Warden
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Now kiss
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2020-06-13 18:18:47
Dilbert_X
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Anarchist communes always work out great

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1598841/chaz-entrance.jpg

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/12/36/34/19523332/27/920x920.jpg

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