BF2S Forums Race relations thread

WASHINGTON—Inviting the young, outspoken Democrat to settle things once and for all, Tucker Carlson concluded a taping of Tucker Carlson Tonight Monday by challenging Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) to a date. “You talk a pretty big game on Twitter, but let’s see how well your pie-in-the-sky ideas hold up when you finally have the guts to join me for a romantic dinner. Date me, coward!” said Carlson in a fiery rebuke of Ocasio-Cortez’s far-left policy proposals, repeated attacks on the Trump administration, and overall refusal to meet him one-on-one for a spirited yet civil exchange of ideas while splitting a bottle of shiraz. “Hey, little Sandy, I hope you’re listening, because no one is going to take you seriously until you finally agree to date me. I’m not kidding. Any time, any place—maybe that new ramen place in Georgetown. If you want, we can even bring a camera crew and put it up on national television for everyone to see. But you’re probably too scared, aren’t you? Pathetic.” Tucker Carlson ended the broadcast by angrily listing his cell phone number in case Ocasio-Cortez decided to “grow a pair.”

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Last edited by uziq (2020-06-12 04:29:06)

uziq wrote:

looking to him as a weathervane for political opinion makes about as much sense as listening to morrissey's 'english defense league'-pandering rants. these people are dinosaurs and they were probably nothing other than standard right-wing even in their hey-day.

for reference, the population of london between 1990 and the present has changed:
black-asian: 10.33% --> 18.49%
black-british: 8.01% --> 13.32%
arab or other: 1.81% --> 3.44%

i wouldn't call any of those changes an 'explosion' or a drastic change to the character of the city. note, also, that the census categories are hyphenated '-british', i.e. people who have been settled here since at least the first waves of migration in the 1950s/60s (black-british) and 1960s/1970s (black-asian). i.e. those people you refer to elsewhere as having 'settled' and 'integrated' after several generations. somebody like john cleese could not legitimately accuse london of 'changing' because the british pakistani population has grown from 10.33% to 18.49%. it's the same community as have been there for 40-50 years! a higher birth-rate than the natives, sure, but it's not like some new and frightening development.

it's hard to impute his real motives, of course. but london has always been an ethnically diverse city: it was the imperial centre of the world's biggest ever empire. monty python did not grow up in some arcadian pastoral england where 'england was for the english'. i'm pretty sure that salman rushdie was at cambridge at the same time as them ffs.

uziq wrote:

as i just said, the major waves of migration happened during his early adulthood. how could someone growing up and living in the london of the 1970s complain that it's 'no longer english' because the population of british-pakistanis has increased? guess he was just racist all along.

these aren't 'foreigners'. they are british people. they have been british subjects since the fucking 18th and 19th centuries. the national dish of the UK, voted as its favourite, is a curry. london has always been highly influenced by the raj. someone saying they 'don't recognise their country' anymore in 2020 really is fucking pushing it.