Weren't the dark ages a long period of nobody doing anything or being anybody because the church said so?
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I remember a looong time ago the Met police started a program to educate officers in 'black culcha'. Simple stuff like white people tend to look you in the eye when they're telling the truth and away when they're lying, blacks do the reverse. I'm sure this has led to a few misunderstandings.Jay wrote:
They do, and there is some overlap, but if you take a cop that doesn't have much experience with black culture, doesn't listen to rap music, etc and you have him police in a predominantly black neighborhood he's going to feel nervous and skittish because he can't pick up the social signals. Things like body language, tone of voice, posture, these are all subconscious cues that we all develop during childhood. If we have two groups of people developing on parallel paths, and with limited crossover, there will be a lot more animosity, misunderstanding, and eventually hatred, that develops. This is because, fundamentally, people are speaking a different language. Sure, they're both superficially speaking the same English language, but they are using different dialects and the social cues can more easily be missed or misinterpreted.
We received some of this training while we were in Kuwait before we headed into Iraq. They gave us a week of instruction in different ways to talk, not to use your left hand, to never show the soles of your feet etc. and it was designed as a crash course in Arabic culture so that we would be less likely to offend the local populace, and because there are vast cultural difference between theirs and ours. Culture needs to be translated too, not just language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_eighteenth_centurySuperJail Warden wrote:
The proper term is long 19th century by the way.Dilbert_X wrote:
When nobody is anybody we'll all be equal I guess.uziq wrote:
hopefully one day in the future all the 'great men' and 'leaders' and 'icons' of today will be pulled down. is it too hard to imagine a future in which no one gives a fuck about the legacy of steve jobs or elon musk, and focusses instead on the conditions in fox conn factories or blood diamond wealth? maybe this whole century will seem just as morally bankrupt and corrupted as the so-called 'long and glorious' 18th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_nineteenth_century
OK best of luck with that one.Larssen wrote:
I reckon it starts with fixing infrastructure, schools & subsidising/promoting the creation of small enterprises / businesses in low income areas, increase minimum wage while you're at it. I made the point before: representation and 'equal opportunity' policies won't help downtrodden areas become less downtrodden, which is a huge factor in the people from those areas having less opportunities in life, being subjected to more policing etc. There's a confluence of socioeconomic status, area of residence and race in many western countries but most obviously in the united states. People need to stop seeing their immediate surroundings as a hellhole from which they need to escape. A middle class needs to grow in traditional low-income/racially segregated places for the community at large to experience the most improvements.
Some people just made that up once they saw Hobsbawm's book trilogy about the 19th century become a best seller.uziq wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_eighteenth_centurySuperJail Warden wrote:
The proper term is long 19th century by the way.Dilbert_X wrote:
When nobody is anybody we'll all be equal I guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_nineteenth_century
the long eighteenth century has been a term in literary studies since before hobsbawm. it's commonly used to describe british history and british culture. i realise it might not have the same purchase or relevance in america. but please stop telling me i'm wrong because you have a BA in history. i was a fucking history publisher. i know TERMS foolSuperJail Warden wrote:
Some people just made that up once they saw Hobsbawm's book trilogy about the 19th century become a best seller.uziq wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_eighteenth_centurySuperJail Warden wrote:
The proper term is long 19th century by the way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_nineteenth_century
i have no idea what that even means. sounds good though.Dilbert_X wrote:
They can be paid the same when they earn the same.uziq wrote:
'understanding and commonality' are just buzzwords. people will understand one another with comity when black people are paid as much as their white colleagues, like women and men, for doing the same role. it's not complicated. but it does involve you as a white male making concessions and ceding privileges.
That way no-one needs to cede anything.
which is why larssen proposed a bunch of things that had nothing to do with 'giving people free money'. derp derp. it's almost like you don't want to see non-whites raise themselves up.Dilbert_X wrote:
Throwing money at the black community achieves literally nothing, tax and spend needs to be carefully directed in any event.
The only really useful tax and spend is investment in productive infrastructure, most other govt spending is wasted.
Infrastructure and defence are the only capital spending govts should really be involved in, Health, security and defence the only real day to day spending.
Handing people free money is worse than doing nothing.
That approach is one even you could agree with.Dilbert_X wrote:
OK best of luck with that one.Larssen wrote:
I reckon it starts with fixing infrastructure, schools & subsidising/promoting the creation of small enterprises / businesses in low income areas, increase minimum wage while you're at it. I made the point before: representation and 'equal opportunity' policies won't help downtrodden areas become less downtrodden, which is a huge factor in the people from those areas having less opportunities in life, being subjected to more policing etc. There's a confluence of socioeconomic status, area of residence and race in many western countries but most obviously in the united states. People need to stop seeing their immediate surroundings as a hellhole from which they need to escape. A middle class needs to grow in traditional low-income/racially segregated places for the community at large to experience the most improvements.
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The exodus began after Carlson, who has described white supremacy in America as a “hoax”, suggested the protests inspired by the death of George Floyd were not about race.
“This may be a lot of things, this moment we’re living through, but it is definitely not about black lives. Remember that when they come for you, and at this rate, they will,” he told his viewers.
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Papa John got booted from his own company. He still gets his dividends and royalties but he has zero say in how the company runs or does business. I wouldn't be surpirsed if Papa John's new leadership is skittish about appearing to be the racist pizza. For what its worth they make better pizza than Dominoes and Pizza Hut.uziq wrote:
how ironic, given jay's wailing about the unfair treatment of papa john, that one of the first sponsors to drop tucker carlson after his bizarre remarks was ... papa johns.
weird how much jay's lines sound like tucker's too, isn't it?The exodus began after Carlson, who has described white supremacy in America as a “hoax”, suggested the protests inspired by the death of George Floyd were not about race.
“This may be a lot of things, this moment we’re living through, but it is definitely not about black lives. Remember that when they come for you, and at this rate, they will,” he told his viewers.