Dilbert_X
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Pick an option:

- Their figures are lies
- They have a treatment/vaccine they're not sharing
- Every other country sucks

Australian figures are pretty close, but then we have much lower population and population density, and maybe the ozone hole and all the free UV to thank.

So something doesn't add up.
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uziq
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chinese state media are into overdrive now with celebrating china’s miraculous victory over corona, a triumph of socialist science et cetera, and the elite are getting way too much political capital out of using america’s immense failure as an example. if they have further waves and peaks they’re never going to admit it at this point. 

on that note i read an article stating that the WHO in january, though publicly lauding china’s response, in private were not entirely happy with the data and felt there was still too much ambiguity around its infectiousness and person-to-person contagion. in the really early and critical phase china didn’t share enough. turns out the WHO were making good noises in order to try and charm china into sharing more data, and hiding their frustrations. so on that point i was wrong and misled. i am not sure i agree with an organization like the WHO using public conferences to try and massage cooperation out of more recalcitrant members. though i admit i’m not sure what else they could have done in the circumstances.

at this point i’m not sure which culture is more stupid, china’s one of saving face at all costs or american conservatives’ efforts at full-on reality denial.

Last edited by uziq (2020-06-06 01:16:39)

uziq
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https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n11 … in-beijing

the latest despatch from the beijing diaries of the ex-bureaucrat i've linked here passim. a good insight into just how strict their lockdown was and how extensive their track-and-trace measures. western countries are way, way behind this level of policy (perhaps for good reason).

The Chinese police force couldn’t have singlehandedly enforced the home isolation of 1.4 billion people that started in Wuhan on 23 January and was later extended to other provinces and cities. Beijing has about 35 policemen for every ten thousand inhabitants; Shanghai and Tianjin have 25, while ordinary prefecture-level cities make do with fewer than twenty. Instead, the community residents’ committees, equipped with smartphones and extensive personal data, implemented and regulated the lockdown.

Residential areas are divided into a ‘grid’ of small zones for the purposes of information gathering, population monitoring and management. I had a chance to visit the grid control room of an upscale community some years ago. Viewed on a computer the grid is like a map, with each building assigned to a zone. Technicians randomly clicked on a building and selected a household. The ‘household information’ popped up immediately, including the names, ages, jobs and contact details of everyone living there. A grid member can see whether the family lives in the apartment or rents it out; whether there are children, elderly people or women of childbearing age; whether or not the family qualifies for a subsistence allowance. A click on a communal area reveals how many cameras, bulletin boards and trash cans there are. You can view information about the organisations in the community, including the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) branch, the Communist Youth League branch, the Women’s Federation branch and so on. Managing the epidemic requires exactly the sort of community supervision made possible by the grid.

After the lockdown order was issued in Beijing, mobile technology was used to track people’s movements. Our smartphones became electronic passes. Many city governments developed apps on Alipay or WeChat to assign health status codes: green means ‘nothing abnormal detected’, yellow ‘quarantine at home’ and red ‘quarantine at an approved facility’. A few weeks ago a colleague of mine drove out for a hike in the suburbs of Beijing. He saw no one, but at a mountain pass his phone received a text message: ‘Welcome to Hebei Province!’ When he swiped his phone on arriving home, the entrance machine announced: ‘Your record shows you left Beijing today; please quarantine for 14 days.’ His health code had changed to yellow. A poster at the gates of some communities reads: ‘Take a one-day holiday outside Beijing, stay home in quarantine for two weeks.’
In contrast to the emptiness around us, the community WeChat group we were requested to join was lively. At first people were cautious and reserved (sharing opinions and information is always risky) and most messages in the hundred-strong group were notices and advertisements: ‘Yunnan red-skin potatoes are rotting in the field, buy them to save the farmers’; ‘Sweetest oranges cannot be sold due to the lockdown, cheapest ever prices’; ‘Export deal cancelled, big-brand T-shirts stuck in factory for sale.’ Then, in mid-March, the committee staff reported that a student was coming back to the community from a US high school. The WeChat group exploded.

Residents in the same unit as the student’s family were the first to object. Someone forwarded articles describing how inefficiently foreign countries were dealing with Covid-19 and how rudely overseas students behaved once they returned. ‘Why should we let someone come home from abroad? We have already been isolated at home for two months and this child’s arrival will mean we’ll be in isolation for ever!’ Less friendly comments followed: ‘Didn’t the rich families send their children to the US to enjoy safety and human rights? Why not let them stay there?’ ‘Human rights or human life, they have to choose.’ Usually silent neighbours were eager to express their opinions from behind their online personae. The student returned home. Two weeks passed; he and his family remained healthy. The restrictions on their unit were lifted.
A video widely shared on the internet showed a woman jogging in Beijing the day after she arrived from Australia. She quarrelled with the community staff when they asked her to self-quarantine. The police were called and the following day her employer, Bayer China, sacked her; a few days later she was told to leave China and return to Australia.

Last edited by uziq (2020-06-06 03:05:31)

Dilbert_X
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You can deal with a pandemic by welding people into their apartments.
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uziq
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yes, obviously. but you’re the one hyperventilating about their secret vaccine and hidden cure. no, turns out living in a surveillance state can be pretty handy.
SuperJail Warden
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The "The Chinese have a secret vaccine" sounds like a plausible conspiracy theory. Why did so many people instead settle on "virus not real"?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
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uziq wrote:

yes, obviously. but you’re the one hyperventilating about their secret vaccine and hidden cure. no, turns out living in a surveillance state can be pretty handy.
would you want to live in one?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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MI6 retiree is claiming the virus came from a lab
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
uziq
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

yes, obviously. but you’re the one hyperventilating about their secret vaccine and hidden cure. no, turns out living in a surveillance state can be pretty handy.
would you want to live in one?
i have repeated here to you about thirteen times that i have no desire to ever even visit china, let alone live there.

i’ve expended a lot of breath here trying to explain to you lot why china’s citizens are in support of their government, how they’re quite patriotic and satisfied, in fact, and how they are not envious of the western system or madly desiring a flashpoint of revolution and ‘liberation’ to western democracy.

evidently you have a very hard time understanding this.

i am in support of public health measures and sacrificing individual freedom and minor conveniences for the health of the community and society. it doesn’t make me a communist. again, this isn’t complicated.

Last edited by uziq (2020-06-06 04:15:52)

uziq
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Jay wrote:

MI6 retiree is claiming the virus came from a lab
yes and the entire intelligence community of the UK and US have dismissed these claims. virologists have made a lot of progress analysing the RNA structure and evolution of the virus. there are no signs of human intervention or modification of the virus. it is a nonsense.

an ex-british intelligence operative was responsible for the russia trump dossier, wasn’t he? Steele or someone with a fittingly Bond-like name? did you believe him too? odd, that.

there are ‘ex-military’ and ‘ex-facility’ staff who claim there are aliens at area 51. can you make a thread?

Last edited by uziq (2020-06-06 04:35:41)

uziq
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol … 153622001/

i mean really how thick can you be?
RTHKI
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Part of our plant was told to staff up since lockdown is over but no one wants to work until the end of the month when the extra 600 stops
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
Jay
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RTHKI wrote:

Part of our plant was told to staff up since lockdown is over but no one wants to work until the end of the month when the extra 600 stops
Next month
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
RTHKI
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oh. yea didnt pay much attention except people on furlough werent calling back and ones who did said i can come back in 3+ weeks
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
uziq
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the president of burundi died, suspected covid. it’s only a matter of time til trump gets a tickle.
uziq
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ … -from-over

since fauci has been put on the cold shoulder by trump, he seems to be speaking his mind more. he calls corona his ‘worst nightmare’. i think fauci over the course of his career has earned enough respect to be listened to.
Dilbert_X
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Injecting bleach seems to be working for me.
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SuperJail Warden
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On the NYT's front page.
https://i.imgur.com/N8ObSdB.png
If I am understanding the thing correctly, a bad flu season increases total mortality in NYC by 5%. COVID increased it by almost 600%.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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watch jay explain it away.
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Wouldn't put it past him. First I wanted people to die so I could wash my hands in public restrooms. Then I wanted the economy to crash into the stone age so I can spend Christmas with my family. It feels non sequitur. But more importantly: why does Jay hate Christmas so much?

Never mind that he'd sacrifice us all so his kids could push blocks around on a twisty wire with thirty other plague bearers. He's in awe of his own contributions to this thread, supposedly single-handedly keeping it going. I hope quantity over quality isn't his motto at work.

I consider a healthy amount of trolling and shitposting to probably be normal for this site. With Jay, it's probably coming from the bottom of his heart when he tells us all to go die in a fire before leaving for a week to sulk.
SuperJail Warden
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I really don't want to go back to having to be physically in a school. I would in fact sacrifice people to get more time to play with toys and organize Magic cards.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
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The UK is batshit.

Having sex in your own home with someone from a different household is illegal from today, after the government altered its coronavirus legislation.

At 11.30am on Monday, a change to the law was introduced that bans two people from different households in England gathering in an indoor, private place during the coronavirus lockdown.

The amendment to the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) Bill states: “No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place indoors, and consists of two or more persons.”

Previously, going to another person’s home to have sex would have been a breach of coronavirus lockdown restrictions, but now both parties could be prosecuted under the law. Having sex in public is already illegal.

Only those with a “reasonable excuse” are permitted to meet in a private place.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/coron … wG5K2Ey_Yq
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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I had to go outside today to get blood work done. I realized how much of a downer these face mask are. Smiling at strangers and others to defuse awkwardness no longer works. It is also difficult to understand a person standing right next to you if they have a mask muffling them.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
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Jay wrote:

The UK is batshit.

Having sex in your own home with someone from a different household is illegal from today, after the government altered its coronavirus legislation.

At 11.30am on Monday, a change to the law was introduced that bans two people from different households in England gathering in an indoor, private place during the coronavirus lockdown.

The amendment to the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) Bill states: “No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place indoors, and consists of two or more persons.”

Previously, going to another person’s home to have sex would have been a breach of coronavirus lockdown restrictions, but now both parties could be prosecuted under the law. Having sex in public is already illegal.

Only those with a “reasonable excuse” are permitted to meet in a private place.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/coron … wG5K2Ey_Yq
fuckin lol this is like a macbeth cuck narrative, except it's the government doing the cock blocking/cucking.

what kinda masks do you guys wear btw? i just wear a buff like this

https://artisansmarketapp.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Floral.png

i have several that i wear fishing/skiing sometimes as a wind break or to limit sun exposure. idc about the effectiveness of it i just like it cause it's light weight and breathable. also easy to wash and quick drying as well
gang shit

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