who knew, a society without any social safety nets, based on taxing citizens as little as possible and threatening your own government with assault rifles from your sacred household, isn't much of a society at all when a war or pandemic comes to your soil.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Even if they're not going to be solved by standing in front of the state capital with assault weapons or blockading your local hospital, there are valid concerns here in regard to food, shelter, and equipment.Dilbert_X wrote:
I'd take to the streets with a gun if I thought it would get me a haircut though.Christian Yingling, a former commanding officer of the Pennsylvania Light Foot militia, called the protest he attended in Harrisburg "an acceptable risk".
"I'm gonna do what I got to do to feed my family," he said. "If it means I got to risk my health then so be it… and yes even potentially the health of others.
"My mortgage payments are late, my truck payment is late and if I lose either of those I'm dead in the water."
"When you're quarantining healthy people, that's tyranny"
There are unavoidable economic consequences that need to be addressed somehow while people are getting hammered by pandemic profiteers, corporations-first bailouts, and other boondoggle occurring behind the haze of the coronavirus that I can scarcely begin to summarize.
I think that's a bit reductive, but alright.Dilbert_X wrote:
I thought profiteering was the basis of freedom?
Aren't corporations people too?
How are we supposed to know what these people want if they don't know themselves?
i do question just why these giant businesses and corporations exist, or are even allowed to exist, when they are clearly so heavily leveraged and have no real 'rainy day' fund for disruption to business-as-usual. a mega-franchise like virgin, or even a cheesecake factory, really shouldn't exist if they cannot pay their bills after a month's disruption. why are they ever allowed to get so big and so 'succesful', swallowing up or shutting down likely much healthier small-medium size competitors?Dilbert_X wrote:
Here most govt spending has been directed to employees, if you can't run a business with free labour your business probably deserves to fail.Larssen wrote:
This model is now being exposed as incredibly fragile. I know that a pandemic like this is once in a century, but there's many other potentially destabilising events that could also seriously pressure private enterprises. States are now required to invest massive sums to keep afloat megacorporations. Much less support is left for SME's, hourly workers and the self employed, while those groups are actually most at risk. It can't be explained that those who profited most from our system are not expected to prepare for worst case scenario's.
Virgin Australia is being allowed to fail by the govt, they could barely service their $5bn debt before this, and there's no reason the Aus govt should be subsidising Etihad or the Chinese Communist party.
I'm guessing their 'investors' pulled the usual trick, acquire a business, load it with the maximum sustainable debt, pocket the proceeds and expect the govt to bail them out if it went wrong.
these giant corporations go about in the good times with their accounts parked off-shore, blissfully untaxed, their CEOs remunerated handsomely and bagging annual bonuses. but their businesses seem to be giant houses of cards. so many of these giant 'household names' in the UK have gone to the government with their pauper's hands held out for a bailout after a month of belt-tightening.
That puts it succinctly.uziq wrote:
who knew, a society without any social safety nets, based on taxing citizens as little as possible and threatening your own government with assault rifles from your sacred household, isn't much of a society at all when a war or pandemic comes to your soil.
It would be nice if, in the future, people in charge sat up and listened when experts warn that a country is not prepared to weather a pandemic, recession, depression, w/e.
Every CEO basks in success and credits his own genius, excuses failures 'due to events no person could have predicted'.
Successful companies are loaded with debt, because MBAs say its the thing to do. Public companies are punished for retaining cash.
Qantas seems to be asset rich and likely to survive, Virgin is being allowed to fail and rightly so, I think Denmark has decided companies not registered there don't get bailouts.
This crisis will thin out the shitty companies, bad luck for them.
Successful companies are loaded with debt, because MBAs say its the thing to do. Public companies are punished for retaining cash.
Qantas seems to be asset rich and likely to survive, Virgin is being allowed to fail and rightly so, I think Denmark has decided companies not registered there don't get bailouts.
This crisis will thin out the shitty companies, bad luck for them.
Fuck Israel
Sounds like socialism, I thought the might free market solved all ills.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
It would be nice if, in the future, people in charge sat up and listened when experts warn that a country is not prepared to weather a pandemic, recession, depression, w/e.
Fuck Israel
Yup totally the moment to take off all restrictions.
Fuck Israel
america is fucked, they're on a track down a 11.5 gradient hill towards the crashing waves and the sea and they're now taking the brakes off the train.
a lot of angry people with lots of guns are going to be asking questions and not liking the answer when they're told it was their president and their 'team' responsible.
a lot of angry people with lots of guns are going to be asking questions and not liking the answer when they're told it was their president and their 'team' responsible.
America is like a family. We may fight amongst eachother, but in war and catastrophe we band together to confront the common enemy. The only thing we don't believe in is effective government. Jobs are at stake and all they're doing is hold press conferences and extend lockdowns without a clear message. We'll have riots in the streets because of these leeches.uziq wrote:
who knew, a society without any social safety nets, based on taxing citizens as little as possible and threatening your own government with assault rifles from your sacred household, isn't much of a society at all when a war or pandemic comes to your soil.
/Jay
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With their dying breath they will blame democrats.uziq wrote:
america is fucked, they're on a track down a 11.5 gradient hill towards the crashing waves and the sea and they're now taking the brakes off the train.
a lot of angry people with lots of guns are going to be asking questions and not liking the answer when they're told it was their president and their 'team' responsible.
america is like a family. we hate and suspect those who care for the elderly, sick and vulnerable, and don't care when they die. when will five guys re-open???Larssen wrote:
America is like a family. We may fight amongst eachother, but in war and catastrophe we band together to confront the common enemy. The only thing we don't believe in is effective government. Jobs are at stake and all they're doing is hold press conferences and extend lockdowns without a clear message. We'll have riots in the streets because of these leeches.uziq wrote:
who knew, a society without any social safety nets, based on taxing citizens as little as possible and threatening your own government with assault rifles from your sacred household, isn't much of a society at all when a war or pandemic comes to your soil.
/Jay
Coronavirus: Man dies of COVID-19 after blasting restrictions as ‘bulls**t’
A service celebrating McDaniel’s life will be livestreamed by the funeral home on April 22.
“On behalf of [McDaniel’s] family, they would like to extend a heartfelt “Thank you” to the nurses at Marion General Hospital and to all the staff at Riverside Methodist Hospital for everything they did to try and save Johnny’s life from COVID-19,” the obituary continued.
“They would also like to remind everyone to continue practising social distancing to keep each other safe.”
A service celebrating McDaniel’s life will be livestreamed by the funeral home on April 22.
“On behalf of [McDaniel’s] family, they would like to extend a heartfelt “Thank you” to the nurses at Marion General Hospital and to all the staff at Riverside Methodist Hospital for everything they did to try and save Johnny’s life from COVID-19,” the obituary continued.
“They would also like to remind everyone to continue practising social distancing to keep each other safe.”
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Fuck Israel
So works temperature guns are great that measured me at 91.8 Fahrenheit.
also I visited the store, Kroger, today and they're at 25% capacity which is still 208 people.
also I visited the store, Kroger, today and they're at 25% capacity which is still 208 people.
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Well, he knew the risks. Said so himself. RIP brave soul. You showed us all what it means to be insolent in the face of adversity. A lesson to live by.Dilbert_X wrote:
Coronavirus: Man dies of COVID-19 after blasting restrictions as ‘bulls**t’
A service celebrating McDaniel’s life will be livestreamed by the funeral home on April 22.
“On behalf of [McDaniel’s] family, they would like to extend a heartfelt “Thank you” to the nurses at Marion General Hospital and to all the staff at Riverside Methodist Hospital for everything they did to try and save Johnny’s life from COVID-19,” the obituary continued.
“They would also like to remind everyone to continue practising social distancing to keep each other safe.”
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
We sacrifice the elderly, sick and vulnerable so that our kids may go to daycare and kindergarten. Their altruism will not be forgotten, semper fi.uziq wrote:
america is like a family. we hate and suspect those who care for the elderly, sick and vulnerable, and don't care when they die. when will five guys re-open???Larssen wrote:
America is like a family. We may fight amongst eachother, but in war and catastrophe we band together to confront the common enemy. The only thing we don't believe in is effective government. Jobs are at stake and all they're doing is hold press conferences and extend lockdowns without a clear message. We'll have riots in the streets because of these leeches.uziq wrote:
who knew, a society without any social safety nets, based on taxing citizens as little as possible and threatening your own government with assault rifles from your sacred household, isn't much of a society at all when a war or pandemic comes to your soil.
/Jay
O quam cito transit gloria mundiLarssen wrote:
We sacrifice the elderly, sick and vulnerable so that our kids may go to daycare and kindergarten. Their altruism will not be forgotten, semper fi.uziq wrote:
america is like a family. we hate and suspect those who care for the elderly, sick and vulnerable, and don't care when they die. when will five guys re-open???Larssen wrote:
America is like a family. We may fight amongst eachother, but in war and catastrophe we band together to confront the common enemy. The only thing we don't believe in is effective government. Jobs are at stake and all they're doing is hold press conferences and extend lockdowns without a clear message. We'll have riots in the streets because of these leeches.
/Jay
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
First US covid-19 death moved from late Feb to early Feb:
Autopsies reveal first confirmed U.S. coronavirus deaths occurred in California in February 4/21
https://news.yahoo.com/autopsies-reveal … 39932.html
Also, as a followup to my astroturfing links:
Who is behind the coronavirus social distancing protests? 4/21
https://news.yahoo.com/groups-behind-co … 37569.html
til america is not north korea
Free enterprise to cure covid-19 (no cowards here!):
Las Vegas mayor says 'free enterprise' will allow restaurants to reopen safely 4/22
https://news.yahoo.com/las-vegas-mayor- … 11873.html
Trump says Harvard will return coronavirus stimulus money 4/21
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-harva … 36413.html
Autopsies reveal first confirmed U.S. coronavirus deaths occurred in California in February 4/21
https://news.yahoo.com/autopsies-reveal … 39932.html
Also, as a followup to my astroturfing links:
Who is behind the coronavirus social distancing protests? 4/21
https://news.yahoo.com/groups-behind-co … 37569.html
til america is not north korea
Free enterprise to cure covid-19 (no cowards here!):
Las Vegas mayor says 'free enterprise' will allow restaurants to reopen safely 4/22
https://news.yahoo.com/las-vegas-mayor- … 11873.html
I wonder, if you're nice to the president, will he allow you to keep your big biz bailout:The mayor of Las Vegas, calling for the reopening of casinos, stores and restaurants, said “free enterprise” would ensure that businesses operated safely amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
“I would have the cleanest hotel with 6 feet figured out for every human being who comes in there,” Mayor Carolyn Goodman, an independent, told CNN’s Anderson Cooper during an interview that left the veteran anchor incredulous.
Trump says Harvard will return coronavirus stimulus money 4/21
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-harva … 36413.html
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Interesting story from Idaho. Sorry for linking you to reddit for the videos but all of the youtube uploads I have seen were edited by right wingers to make the police look bad.
They then protested the cops house.
Interesting part at 6:00 is when the gay cowboy (all cowboys are gay, well known fact) threatens to stop the officers from further COVID lockdown arrest.
WhY dIDn'T sHe JuSt LiSteN tO tHe PoliCe?
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … osed_park/Parents rip down caution tape at a closed park. Police officer apologizes that they have to leave & gets screamed at about taxes. Bonus: Angry mom asks to get arrested & is upset when she magically gets arrested!
They then protested the cops house.
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … cers_home/Protesters gather outside of officer's home following the "Playdate Protest" arrest.
Interesting part at 6:00 is when the gay cowboy (all cowboys are gay, well known fact) threatens to stop the officers from further COVID lockdown arrest.
WhY dIDn'T sHe JuSt LiSteN tO tHe PoliCe?
Wow, that was hard to watch. Taking the karen meme to a whole new level.
Well it's shaping up to be a planned thing so listening to the police would be a detriment.SuperJail Warden wrote:
WhY dIDn'T sHe JuSt LiSteN tO tHe PoliCe?
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So only 5 times as deadly as the flu after all.About 21 percent of around 1,300 people in New York City who were tested for coronavirus antibodies this week were found to have them, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said on Thursday.
The results were from a state program that conducted tests of 3,000 supermarket customers across New York State. Nearly 14 percent of the tests came back positive, Mr. Cuomo said.
It was unclear just how telling the preliminary data was, as Mr. Cuomo acknowledged. And the accuracy of the antibody testing available in the United States in general has been called into question.
But if the New York numbers indicated the true incidence of the virus, it would mean that more than 1.7 million people in New York City, and more than 2.6 million people statewide, have already been infected.
That is far greater than the 250,000 confirmed cases of the virus that the state has recorded.
It would also mean that the fatality rate from the virus was relatively low, about 0.5 percent, Mr. Cuomo said.
Everyone please leave your apology for Jay in the apology thread.
Where is Jay? I saw him comment on one of Adams' Facebook posts today about US healthcare prices.
jay has cucked himself. there's only so wrong you can be on an issue before you have to start castrating yourself at home using unsterilised equipment, out of fear of the evil cowboy dr's and for the good of the human race.
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I owe Donald Trump an apology. I know I said in the past that he wanted blue state people to die. The reality of situation doesn't seem so. I mean he pressured red states to reopen and his supporters to go out and protest in swing states. The virus is going to now blast red states. And even if he does turn around and give all the support to the red states that he denied to the blue states, he could have given them all of that in the first place before he helped get them sick.