uziq
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that's a bit like saying baltimore or denver are not major risks because no one departs from them internationally. well, yes. but they're major hubs on the supply/distribution chain, literally one journey or hop away from major international ports/airports. if you have a city like wuhan that is one of the major arteries of china's trade and communications network, you have an issue with contagion, period.
KEN-JENNINGS
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we had to submit an application to the local provincial government for approval to restart our factory in Shenzhen. We got approval on monday, but the workforce has been seriously depleted, which will probably result in at least a two week delay to being fully operational. There is always a labor shortage after CNY because a lot of the rural workers in the labor pool don't come back to the cities after CNY, but the coronavirus has exacerbated this drain.

The good news is that after Trump's fucking mindless tariff disputes, we already shifted ~90% of our US production to Taiwan, so the impact isn't really felt by any of the business units I manage.

Taiwan is now asking me to find and ship masks to them. Meanwhile, vaccinations are being tested. Can't wait until this shit storm is over.
uziq
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foxconn shut down its factory. i noticed people commenting on the macbook pro subreddit i joined when i was shopping for my new one about hugely backed up delivery dates for their custom spec factory machines.

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KEN-JENNINGS
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foxconn's shenzhen factory is back online as of Monday. Not sure about their other locations.  Will be interesting to see how they control the flow of goods over the bridge in to Hong Kong. This is normally a lane that sees an enormous amounts of goods transit through every day. It has been a virtual ghost town from the start of Chinese New Year until Monday.

There's still a huge bottleneck on components, and seeing as the global tech community and China have spent the last 30 years building up the supply chain capabilities of China, it's not going to end any time soon.

I hope this jump starts a conversation about the need to diversify supply chains for the sake of business continuity, and that this conversation leads to the end of dependency on China by western Tech.

Wishful thinking, I'm sure.
uziq
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Dilbert_X
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

foxconn's shenzhen factory is back online as of Monday. Not sure about their other locations.  Will be interesting to see how they control the flow of goods over the bridge in to Hong Kong. This is normally a lane that sees an enormous amounts of goods transit through every day. It has been a virtual ghost town from the start of Chinese New Year until Monday.

There's still a huge bottleneck on components, and seeing as the global tech community and China have spent the last 30 years building up the supply chain capabilities of China, it's not going to end any time soon.

I hope this jump starts a conversation about the need to diversify supply chains for the sake of business continuity, and that this conversation leads to the end of dependency on China by western Tech.

Wishful thinking, I'm sure.
At some point China is going to decide it no longer makes sense to exchange goods for US debt and they'll shut off supply of critical components for strategic reasons.

Hopefully this virus thing will cause people to wake up.
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SuperJail Warden
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We need to have a discussion about how crazy it is that China put a large city under lockdown. Can you imagine the reaction to Trump trying to lockdown LA?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
SuperJail Warden
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Well that looks like a horror movie.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/14/world/00China-Frontline01/00China-Frontline01-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1200
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
SuperJail Warden
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https://i.redd.it/erd1texc2xg41.jpg
Tasteless even by my standards.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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people are daft. do they just do this for social media likes or what? i do not get it at all.
SuperJail Warden
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The lady posted it on reddit on her account.

https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ … oronation/

She lives in China with hubby. Dummy had a link to a Huffpost article she wrote with her full name in her reddit submission list that took like a second to find. Her instagram account instantly comes up in Google. Things are going to get bad for her and she doesn't know it yet.

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https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Well that looks like a horror movie.
That'd be great, but the 'hospitals' don't look like that.
Try this.
https://i.imgur.com/Ql67cIt.jpg
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SuperJail Warden
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Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Well that looks like a horror movie.
That'd be great, but the 'hospitals' don't look like that.
Try this.
Those are for the people without health insurance.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Well that looks like a horror movie.
That'd be great, but the 'hospitals' don't look like that.
Try this.
i don't think any country could put 70,000+ people on respirators with intensive care at short notice.
Dilbert_X
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Nor do I, much easier to let them die, bury the bodies and hide the figures.
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SuperJail Warden
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They are apparently burning the bodies.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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yes, like an increasing majority of people do whenever a relative dies in any circumstance.
SuperJail Warden
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Hmm? I wasn't criticizing the practice. They are doing mandatory burning though.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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western hospitals insist on mandatory burning if you die of certain highly infectious or biologically active causes.
uziq
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https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v16/n07 … the-future

this essay, from 1994, is frighteningly prescient. it is literally a tour de force. probably the most acute essay i’ve read this year.

[There is a] space that remains wide open for a product-improved Fascist party, dedicated to the enhancement of the personal economic security of the broad masses of (mainly) white-collar working people. Such a party could even be as free of racism as Mussolini’s original was until the alliance with Hitler, because its real stock in trade would be corporativist restraints on corporate Darwinism, and delaying if not blocking barriers against globalisation. It is not necessary to know how to spell Gemeinschaft and Gesellschaft to recognise the Fascist predisposition engendered by today’s turbocharged capitalism.
Dilbert_X
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Well there you go, like I said "just avoid doing things which serve no purpose and will inevitably produce a backlash - because that would be stupid".

Rampant free-market capitalism and global trade leads to the election of people who promise corporate restrictions and national protectionism?
Who'da thought.


https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5d4db35f0f044a0009664e82/master/pass/trump-el-paso-baby.jpg
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uziq
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can tell you didn’t read the essay, but nevermind.
Larssen
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I thought it was written today until I scrolled back up to check the date. Very prescient.

You should read the reviews of the book he published 4 years later, turbo-charged capitalism. I suppose this essay was the launching of that project/idea. Most of them ridicule his predictions and his defence of 'punitive taxes on the rich' etc. It's quite grim reading it all 20 years later.

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Dilbert_X
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For a long time we've had Chinese around the place, coughing over fresh produce in supermarkets, slurping and spluttering in restaurants, spitting in public.

Now they're all wearing masks, I guess thats progress.
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I don't notice people coughing over fresh produce tending to any particular ethnicity. Worst optics seem to be for children, with the coughing and sneezing uncovered or wiping snotty hands on the food. And then people get upset if someone brings a dog inside.

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