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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

I felt the same way in the army. I hate working for people when I'm significantly smarter.

Teachers have really done the country a disservice by telling every smart kid to go off to college while scoffing at people going into the trades.

I don't think individual teachers did that as much as the education finance/capital machine convinced middle class boomers to create a system that pushes their derpy kids into higher education. Teachers are well aware which kids are not college material and which ones are at risk of 27 clubbing it.

Have you ever heard of the "4-14 window" Evangelicals in education and home schooling discuss? You are a dad now and that might be relevant to you. I am not trolling. It is an interesting concept from them that I think has a lot of merit.

No, but it makes sense. It's probably why children's services away from the main service became so popular. I remember when I was a kid I used to harass my dad about not being a believer or going to church. My grandparents were pretty hardcore born-agains and raised me to be one, right up until they retired to Florida when I was in 5th grade. After that I became an atheist. Now I'm just apathetic.

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SuperJail Warden wrote:

He said he went to Catholic school.

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Larssen wrote:

This makes no sense whatsoever. Quakers, catholics and lutherans are worlds apart in their religious interpretations and thinking. If the differences among the denominations mean so little I'd reckon your faith is at a point where you ought to question why you're going to church at all.

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Jay wrote:

Larssen wrote:

This makes no sense whatsoever. Quakers, catholics and lutherans are worlds apart in their religious interpretations and thinking. If the differences among the denominations mean so little I'd reckon your faith is at a point where you ought to question why you're going to church at all.

The high school I went to was founded in the Quaker faith. I was raised in the Baptist faith on my mother's side (because my grandfather met Billy Graham and converted from Lutheran), and Lutheran on my father's. My wife was raised Catholic.

Of the protestant faiths, I feel that Lutheran is closest to Catholicism and would make my wife most comfortable, so we chose that.

If I was flying solo, I'd pick Quaker Meetings.

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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Oh God is this so true. I have never met a single auto technician who wanted their kids to become auto techs. One of the techs I knew was so proud of the fact that his kid joined the military and is now a Presidential Honor Guard. He rather his kid take a soldiers salary to hold a flag for Trump than to make $100,000ish a year putting transmissions together.

uziq wrote:

larssen is from some working-class area in a place like belgium or the netherlands, i guess, two of the most racist places i have ever been to. i'm not surprised he has some unreconstructed red-neck beliefs

he was educated at Durham School and Exeter College, Oxford, where he studied under Norman Stone, graduating in 1994 with a First in Ancient and Modern History. One of his professors has described him as “fizzing with ideas, unconvinced by any received set of views about anything.” He was “something like a Robespierre – someone determined to bring down things that don’t work”.

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Cummings worked for Conservative politician Michael Gove from 2007 to January 2014, first in opposition and then, after the 2010 general election, as a special adviser (spad) in the Department for Education (DfE). He was Gove's chief of staff, an appointment blocked by Andy Coulson until his own resignation.
In this capacity, Cummings wrote an essay titled "Some thoughts on education and political priorities", about transforming Britain into a "meritocratic technopolis"; the essay was described by Guardian journalist Patrick Wintour as "either mad, bad or brilliant – and probably a bit of all three".

At the DfE Cummings became known for his blunt style and "not suffering fools gladly"; he railed against the "blob", the informal alliance of senior civil servants and teachers who, in Cummings's opinion, sought to frustrate his attempts at reform.
Cummings was also outspoken regarding other senior politicians, describing Nick Clegg's proposals on free school meals as "Dreamed up on the back of a cigarette packet", and David Davis as "thick as mince" and "lazy as a toad".
Patrick Wintour described the Cummings-Gove working relationship: "Gove, polite to a fault, would often feign ignorance of his adviser’s methods, but knew full well the dark arts that Cummings deployed to get his master’s way". In 2014, Prime Minister David Cameron described Cummings as a "career psychopath", although the two had never met.

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Larssen wrote:

Jay wrote:

Larssen wrote:

This makes no sense whatsoever. Quakers, catholics and lutherans are worlds apart in their religious interpretations and thinking. If the differences among the denominations mean so little I'd reckon your faith is at a point where you ought to question why you're going to church at all.

The high school I went to was founded in the Quaker faith. I was raised in the Baptist faith on my mother's side (because my grandfather met Billy Graham and converted from Lutheran), and Lutheran on my father's. My wife was raised Catholic.

Of the protestant faiths, I feel that Lutheran is closest to Catholicism and would make my wife most comfortable, so we chose that.

If I was flying solo, I'd pick Quaker Meetings.

I mean the reformation happened for some pretty good reasons, there's very marked differences between protestantism and catholicism especially when it comes to salvation, sin and religious organisation. Quakers and lutherans also seriously diverge on predestination and all that. At the end of the day it really depends on what you want your kids to learn from church & the bible.

I was raised in a calvinist household but left the religion in my teenage years.

uziq wrote:

i mean, there has been huge amounts of anti-catholic bias and prejudice expressed by the WASP elite. it's probably a big reason why irish, italians, polish, etc were all denigrated and stereotyped at various times in the history of their integration. but obviously america was founded by people fleeing the part where you'd get burned or mobbed in the street for having the wrong faith.

selling your catholic wife on protestantism just basically means that religion is not a major part of your lives, in any meaningful sense. there are not superficial differences between them. this is O K. most people raising families just have religion there as a way of structuring family life, raising respectable kids, etc. this is pretty much exactly what i say about the vast majority of muslims when dilbert goes on one of his 'they are incompatible with western societies' rants. their faith is about as pertinent as your household's christianity.