not really. they are all friends.
both neil and boris johnson used to be editors of the spectator. they are both fleet street pals — one editor doesn’t disregard another. it’s an incredibly close and chummy world and they’re all at the same gentleman’s clubs (remember that johnson was technically 'fired' once as a journalist for lying and fabricating quotes, a cardinal sin for a journo and something that has ended many a career; and he was also embroiled in a tapped phonecall scandal where him and another old etonian tried to arrange for someone to be beaten up and intimidated -- neither of which seem to have really affected his standing amongst right-wing journalists and newspapers. they all love him, which says a lot about their 'professional ethics').
the current deputy-editor of the spectator is mary wakefield. who is ... dominic cummings’, i.e. the top johnson advisor’s, wife. oh, and she’s the daughter of a baron and a member of the gentry.
the spectator is an extremely politicised mouthpiece for conservative opinion. it serves as an organ for the barclay brothers, two of the richest and most powerful people in the UK, and two of the biggest defenders of the low-tax/tax-avoiding status quo (they live on their own channel island). they own the spectator and they are also huge political donors to the conservative party (a third of all UK billionaires are official party donors, which requires a sizeable registered donation, to the tory party).
see a pattern emerging? the whole idea that all the party leaders would get an ‘equal’ grilling from andrew neil is a farce, in the first place. the establishment in the UK always have an intrinsic advantage. the UK is a VERY small place and the top people in the media, politics, journalism/publishing, law, etc all went to the same 4-5 schools, the same 2 universities, and work in the same handful of institutions. their families are all linked by aristo or landed connections.
don’t forget what happens when the cameras are off.
(that’s phillip schofield, who regularly brings single mothers and ‘chavs’ and benefit claimants onto his morning show to interview them, working himself up into outrage, who was also exposed in the large leak of UK public figures/celebrities enrolled in huge tax cheating schemes)
both neil and boris johnson used to be editors of the spectator. they are both fleet street pals — one editor doesn’t disregard another. it’s an incredibly close and chummy world and they’re all at the same gentleman’s clubs (remember that johnson was technically 'fired' once as a journalist for lying and fabricating quotes, a cardinal sin for a journo and something that has ended many a career; and he was also embroiled in a tapped phonecall scandal where him and another old etonian tried to arrange for someone to be beaten up and intimidated -- neither of which seem to have really affected his standing amongst right-wing journalists and newspapers. they all love him, which says a lot about their 'professional ethics').
the current deputy-editor of the spectator is mary wakefield. who is ... dominic cummings’, i.e. the top johnson advisor’s, wife. oh, and she’s the daughter of a baron and a member of the gentry.
the spectator is an extremely politicised mouthpiece for conservative opinion. it serves as an organ for the barclay brothers, two of the richest and most powerful people in the UK, and two of the biggest defenders of the low-tax/tax-avoiding status quo (they live on their own channel island). they own the spectator and they are also huge political donors to the conservative party (a third of all UK billionaires are official party donors, which requires a sizeable registered donation, to the tory party).
see a pattern emerging? the whole idea that all the party leaders would get an ‘equal’ grilling from andrew neil is a farce, in the first place. the establishment in the UK always have an intrinsic advantage. the UK is a VERY small place and the top people in the media, politics, journalism/publishing, law, etc all went to the same 4-5 schools, the same 2 universities, and work in the same handful of institutions. their families are all linked by aristo or landed connections.
don’t forget what happens when the cameras are off.
(that’s phillip schofield, who regularly brings single mothers and ‘chavs’ and benefit claimants onto his morning show to interview them, working himself up into outrage, who was also exposed in the large leak of UK public figures/celebrities enrolled in huge tax cheating schemes)
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What year is it
what timeline is it
https://twitter.com/toryfibs/status/120 … 92134?s=21
this is big. gordon brown calls the last decade of austerity and neoliberal solutions to the crash a ‘lost decade’. he said comparing debt and deficits as something akin to ‘incest’ is now being totally discredited.
in the last week, three ex prime ministers have openly disavowed johnson and co. major, blair, and brown.
this is big. gordon brown calls the last decade of austerity and neoliberal solutions to the crash a ‘lost decade’. he said comparing debt and deficits as something akin to ‘incest’ is now being totally discredited.
in the last week, three ex prime ministers have openly disavowed johnson and co. major, blair, and brown.
All this stuff is stage managed, Johnson and Brill will circle each other like comic-opera gladiators, they'll have their battle royale eventually, Johnson will emerge victorious and the peons will laud him.
Bit surprised Schofield bounced back from that child porn thing. (About 20 years ago he disappeared for a while, according to the journalists we were dealing with he was found to have a cache of child-porn while he was in childrens tv. I believe he was given a ticking off and told to go into purgatory for a while)
Major, Blair and Brown are not idealists, I don't care about their opinion, they wouldn't have managed the GFC better, Brown didn't have an idea in his head except "I deserve to be PM".
People are tired of these self-interested career politicians, them disavowing Johnson will just energise his moronic populist base - it makes him a radical outsider - just like Trump.
I don't have any time for aristos, public school or Oxbridge thugs either. They're just chavs with rich daddies, and well-connected which makes life shit for the rest of the country.
Bit surprised Schofield bounced back from that child porn thing. (About 20 years ago he disappeared for a while, according to the journalists we were dealing with he was found to have a cache of child-porn while he was in childrens tv. I believe he was given a ticking off and told to go into purgatory for a while)
Maybe my timing's off, seems to be a missing five years in there, 1996 is dead on at least.In the early 1990s, Schofield moved to adult-orientated television with various programmes for ITV, such as Schofield's Quest, Schofield's TV Gold and Ten Ball. From 1994 to 1997, he presented Talking Telephone Numbers for five series and in 1996 he hosted a show about remarkable coincidences called One in a Million. He co-authored the book that came out of the series.
In the following decade, Schofield presented the National Lottery Winning Lines programme for BBC One between June 2001 and October 2004. And between 2002 and 2006, he co-hosted the BBC quiz show Test the Nation with Anne Robinson. In July 2006, he signed an exclusive two-year contract with ITV, reported to have been worth £5 million. The exclusive deal also meant he could no longer present Test the Nation and was replaced by Danny Wallace.
Major, Blair and Brown are not idealists, I don't care about their opinion, they wouldn't have managed the GFC better, Brown didn't have an idea in his head except "I deserve to be PM".
People are tired of these self-interested career politicians, them disavowing Johnson will just energise his moronic populist base - it makes him a radical outsider - just like Trump.
I don't have any time for aristos, public school or Oxbridge thugs either. They're just chavs with rich daddies, and well-connected which makes life shit for the rest of the country.
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Fuck Israel
brown is the most economically literate PM we've had in a long time. he did a decent job of steering the ship through those choppy waters, imo. some misbegotten ideas, to be sure, but he's no ideologue treating the economy based on precept.
Didn't Brown sell off Britain's gold reserves before the GFC? What a genius.
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Fuck Israel
Merry War on Christmas, bf2s!
merry xmas guys. hope santa gets you the latest BF game. see u in-game!!
I wonder if Santa's workshop has a division working on removing lootboxes from major titles.
For someone who has a tendency to write large posts, you sure are pretty lazy in typing "xmas" instead of "Christmas"uziq wrote:
merry xmas guys. hope santa gets you the latest BF game. see u in-game!!
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
wow war man. half of the civilized world shortens christmas to 'xmas' and yet you pick up on me for that.
you do know that the 'X', or chi sign, is from ancient greek, and pre-dates the roman alphabet version of christ? if anything, you're being a philistine by using 'christmas'. do you read the bible in english as well, or something? the new testament is an originally greek text, moron!
did you get autism as a present this 'xmas' or what?
you do know that the 'X', or chi sign, is from ancient greek, and pre-dates the roman alphabet version of christ? if anything, you're being a philistine by using 'christmas'. do you read the bible in english as well, or something? the new testament is an originally greek text, moron!
did you get autism as a present this 'xmas' or what?
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https://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?p … 9#p3956079KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
i remember one time when i was really young i made Christmas cards on some computer program and I couldn't fit the word "Christmas" so I put "X-Mas" and my dad yelled at me for "taking Christ out of Christmas". OK, dad.
I still send him lumps of coal for that.
people are really dumb. why do they think 'christmas' was ever abbreviated to 'x'-mas in the first place? IT'S THE SIGN OF CHRIST!
definitely the same demographic who would get mad if jesus were rendered as a middle-eastern carpenter, or as in byzantine/ethiopian art, and not some aquiline, blue-eyed figure as you see in common depictions in the West. reality check, you dairy-farming mid-western patsy: even the term 'jesus' is a transliteration from an another, originary language. he wasn't white and he definitely wasn't called 'christ' by his contemporaries.
definitely the same demographic who would get mad if jesus were rendered as a middle-eastern carpenter, or as in byzantine/ethiopian art, and not some aquiline, blue-eyed figure as you see in common depictions in the West. reality check, you dairy-farming mid-western patsy: even the term 'jesus' is a transliteration from an another, originary language. he wasn't white and he definitely wasn't called 'christ' by his contemporaries.
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I bet next you're gonna say he was never the King of the Jews even though that's what Pontius Pilate and King Herod called him in "Jesus Christ Superstar".
jesus christ is willem dafoe, the 2nd coming has been hiding in plain sight.
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you know, im somewhat of a messiah myself.meme
I've noticed that Old Testament Christians get really pissed when you tell them they can't be.
Fuck Israel
I think the actual meaning of the x in xmas is largely lost when we're talking about a lot of the people who are arguing over its use.
One group thinks abbreviating it makes it more inclusive and less offensive to non-Christians. The other side whinges on about godless communists removing the "Christ" from "Christmas."
Even Christian publications going over it time and time again won't stop all the butthurt. Some guy on youtube or on the radio will launch into a rant about deteriorating societal values, and facebook argumentation will flare.
One group thinks abbreviating it makes it more inclusive and less offensive to non-Christians. The other side whinges on about godless communists removing the "Christ" from "Christmas."
Even Christian publications going over it time and time again won't stop all the butthurt. Some guy on youtube or on the radio will launch into a rant about deteriorating societal values, and facebook argumentation will flare.
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X-Mas vs Christmas reminds me of the stupidity of B.C.E./C.E. instead of B.C./A.D.
X-Mas, B.C.E./C.E. are both still referencing the same life event of one single guy. Why bother using any of it as a point of reference if you are going to erase the guy it is centered around? The Jews, Muslims, and Chinese have their own year dating system anyway.
X-Mas, B.C.E./C.E. are both still referencing the same life event of one single guy. Why bother using any of it as a point of reference if you are going to erase the guy it is centered around? The Jews, Muslims, and Chinese have their own year dating system anyway.
Which one?
Why would I read a bible in Greek when I don't read or write Greek? I mean who wouldn't read a bible in English if that is their only language they can speak. I am a fricken American that speaks English and therefore use fucking English dammit. Why would I even mishmash different words of different languages together in such a way like that? I may as well just say "Merry Christoúgenna" if I want to intermix English and Greek then if that's how you want to play it.uziq wrote:
wow war man. half of the civilized world shortens christmas to 'xmas' and yet you pick up on me for that.
you do know that the 'X', or chi sign, is from ancient greek, and pre-dates the roman alphabet version of christ? if anything, you're being a philistine by using 'christmas'. do you read the bible in english as well, or something? the new testament is an originally greek text, moron!
did you get autism as a present this 'xmas' or what?
Edit: Yes I used google translate to find the Greek word for Christmas which is "Χριστούγεννα" in the Greek alphabet
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The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
has it ever occurred to you, war man, that a lot of the world aren't american? that your religion isn't american? that for most of the history of your religion it has been followed, worshipped, celebrated, written and taught in languages that aren't american? the divinity school at harvard taught theology -- christianity -- to its students in greek and latin only 100 years ago.
so the next time someone says 'xmas', and you take it as an insult, maybe go read a fucking book instead of adopting your 'incensed redneck' persona.
and why would you use a mish-mash of languages? do you even know what modern english is? do you even know how languages work, generally? i suppose you've never met someone at a 'cafe' before? i suppose you don't listen to 'music'? a term like 'xmas' is actually a calque, where parts of the word are made from semantic borrowings from another language. here are some calques which i am sure you never, ever use:
superman
beer garden
flea market
adam's apple
who would have thought, a yung homeschooled dairy-farm boy like war man, made over into an errant young inkhorn!!!
so the next time someone says 'xmas', and you take it as an insult, maybe go read a fucking book instead of adopting your 'incensed redneck' persona.
and why would you use a mish-mash of languages? do you even know what modern english is? do you even know how languages work, generally? i suppose you've never met someone at a 'cafe' before? i suppose you don't listen to 'music'? a term like 'xmas' is actually a calque, where parts of the word are made from semantic borrowings from another language. here are some calques which i am sure you never, ever use:
superman
beer garden
flea market
adam's apple
who would have thought, a yung homeschooled dairy-farm boy like war man, made over into an errant young inkhorn!!!
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