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uziq
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/n … rone-power

it's just business ... says every engineer at a firm with a nice pension and a range rover in the carpark ... i cannot possibly have any responsibility for anything.

we need to put them in re-education camps. make them read novels.
Dilbert_X
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EDO MBM is located in the UK it is subject to British and not US arms regulations, meaning it could legally export the critical bomb rack
What was your point? Wasn't Turkey an ally at the time?
Its a member of NATO FFS

Now its misbehaving, problem solved:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ … -use-syria

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Epstein didn't kill himself
KEN-JENNINGS
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https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar … n-software

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/tech … maven.html

Seems tech employees are not all ethics-depraved autists, regardless whether or not the end user is an ally or in NATO.
Dilbert_X
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The Chinese aren't so ethical, they will destroy us.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2018-10-18/amazon-employees-protesting-sale-of-facial-recognition-software

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/01/tech … maven.html

Seems tech employees are not all ethics-depraved autists, regardless whether or not the end user is an ally or in NATO.
i bet it was the engineers that were all for those contracts/technologies, and it was the nice compassionate liberal arts grads from stanford who felt bad.
Dilbert_X
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Labour has obtained official documents showing that the US is demanding that the NHS will be “on the table” in talks on a post-Brexit trade deal, Jeremy Corbyn has said.

The Labour leader said the uncensored papers gave the lie to Boris Johnson’s claims that the NHS would not be part of any trade talks, and revealed that the US wanted “total market access” after the UK leaves the EU.

“The uncensored documents leave Boris Johnson’s denials in absolute tatters,” he said at a news conference in London. “We have now got evidence that under Boris Johnson the NHS is on the table and will be up for sale. He tried to cover it up in a secret agenda and today it has been exposed.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 … p-for-sale

Johnson won a scholarship to read Literae Humaniores, a four-year course based on the study of Classics, at Balliol College, Oxford.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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it's actually glorious how much you're still missing the point. amazing. this is like page 4 at this point. i'm loving it.
Dilbert_X
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I think I'm enjoying it more.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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consider it charity on my behalf in lieu of all that joy you're missing by being an ignoramus who still listens to girls aloud and reads masturbatory comic fantasies.
Dilbert_X
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Thanks!
Epstein didn't kill himself
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
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alright lads
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Adams_BJ
Warman is a hermaphrodite.
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They let Australia into Eurovision, they will let anyone in.
uziq
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it’s actually all done using a points-based system, which is unimpeachable.
Dilbert_X
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They should hold it here one day, then the whole of Europe will have to wake up at 4am to watch it.
Muah hah hah ha ha.
Epstein didn't kill himself
unnamednewbie13
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There's like multiple time zones in Europe but ok.
uziq
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europe’s time zones are fake news. the spanish all eat and go out really late at night because franco wanted a matching time zone with hitler, despite them being on the same meridian as london. sad!
unnamednewbie13
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Oh hey, speaking of Spain:

"Dozens of companies have announced they will no longer be advertising on the Spanish version of the TV reality show Big Brother after it emerged that a contestant had been shown footage of her alleged rape."

Spanish Big Brother contestant forced to watch her 'sexual assault'
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/spanish-big-b … 00840.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/1 … watch-rape

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uziq
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it's slightly dystopian that those shows are even still running tbh.

the entire reality tv, tabloids, ex-celebrities/wannabe-celebrities, glamour models, let's 'ave sex on camera to get a magazine interview later etc etc world is so prurient and debased at this point, and so totally irrelevant. it's like rolling over a log and seeing all the swarming insect life underneath.

sad!
SuperJail Warden
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uziq wrote:

it's slightly dystopian that those shows are even still running tbh.

the entire reality tv, tabloids, ex-celebrities/wannabe-celebrities, glamour models, let's 'ave sex on camera to get a magazine interview later etc etc world is so prurient and debased at this point, and so totally irrelevant. it's like rolling over a log and seeing all the swarming insect life underneath.

sad!
It's what I have been saying about the media encouraging poor lifestyle choices and decisions.
uziq
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i don't really think they have any bearing on general culture or most people. it's an underclass. you're right that its a sad spectacle, both in itself and in the fact that tv producers and cultural programmers probably should know better. it's essentially a bunch of very upper-middle class tv industry people pitching and running shows that make a circus out of lower class dolts, desperate for fame. is it causing the downfall of western civilisation and corrupting children? not really.
SuperJail Warden
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I agree that it isn't the downfall of Western civilization. Western civ is just too big to say there is even a single thing bringing us down. Structural inequality will be the downfall of the U.S. Meanwhile Germany doesn't have that problem.

America's structural inequality cannot be solved without a cultural revolution and societal reform. Just taxing the rich more and providing more services won't fix the culture of people stuck in a generational cycle of poverty.
unnamednewbie13
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I think having more services would help some of the poorest Americans not bankrupt multiple generations of their family just to afford food, medicine, shelter, education, etc.

And maybe in time, the rich and the middle class could finally simmer down a bit about having a low quality workforce to choose from.
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

it's slightly dystopian that those shows are even still running tbh.

the entire reality tv, tabloids, ex-celebrities/wannabe-celebrities, glamour models, let's 'ave sex on camera to get a magazine interview later etc etc world is so prurient and debased at this point, and so totally irrelevant. it's like rolling over a log and seeing all the swarming insect life underneath.

sad!
Whats sad is that the labourless future delivered by our mechatronic slaves is now here and its produced misery instead of utopia.

Also, maybe entropy is the noise produced by the quantum realm devouring determinism.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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that's a bit high concept for my mid-day coffee.

the labour less future doesn't need to involve misery -- the problem is that capitalism requires a surplus population outside of the workforce to keep the labour market in basic structural shape. these people are defined by chronic un- or underemployment and poor education, not by being in some blissful 'labour less' state.

Last edited by uziq (2019-12-03 04:14:10)

SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I think having more services would help some of the poorest Americans not bankrupt multiple generations of their family just to afford food, medicine, shelter, education, etc.

And maybe in time, the rich and the middle class could finally simmer down a bit about having a low quality workforce to choose from.
Don't misunderstand me, I support most left wing economic ideas. I just think lefties need to temper their expectations and not be surprised when many poor Americans invest their new money into sports jerseys and not education.

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