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Dilbert_X
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Interesting, 35 years on.
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/07/03/worl … -kong.html

I vaguely remember a suggestion that Britain could have kept Hong Kong if Howe hadn't been inept at negotiating.

Now its getting nasty in Australasia
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics … queensland
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australa … -hong-kong

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uziq
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we had very little to negotiate with considering china was on the ascendant. it’s amusing that they’re blaming us now and accusing us of not fulfilling our responsibilities. you either want patrician benevolence or you don’t.
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epstein’s black book of personal contacts have been leaked. a lottttt of famous people in there. actors and big public figures.

https://imgur.com/a/YjSwb1r
Dilbert_X
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Only two pages or am I missing something?
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A woman accused the dead pedophile of pimping the girls to wealthy men against their will.
Dilbert_X
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Apparently the Duke of York is accused of raping a 17 year old, not a 14 year old, my bad.
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uziq
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it’s notoriously hard to prove consent in rape cases. something like 5% of criminal proceedings ever end up in a conviction. the girls were trafficked and part of a prostitution ring, certainly; but, in the cases of those of legal age, they were all taking payment and all working. obviously that’s unforgivable in the case of minors and young girls who have no way to give informed consent, and obviously it’s deeply creepy and weird. but to say someone who pays a 17 year old for sex is ‘raping’ her is not quite the same thing.

epstein was running a pedo ring and everyone involved is shady as fuck. the story should ruin a lot of big public figures’ lives. but someone of legal age being paid for sex is not a cut and dry rape case.

i hope everyone who was trafficked against their will, abused, passed around for sex, etc gets justice and a big slice of his estate money at the very least. i hope the underage girls who got messed with get a vip ticket to take a shit on that guy in hell. but lots of escorts hang around with rich people and celebrities, too.

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Dilbert_X
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I imagine the Duke of York didn't hand over wads of fifties, and the girl says she was coerced.

Its not as if she was tied up but what would someone be thinking when a shady associate flies in a 17 year old for them?

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uziq
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well i don’t have any good reason to argue against your view of the duke of york, i certainly have no interest in defending that whole creepy underworld. but good luck proving legal coercion and getting a rape verdict.

obviously they were soliciting sex and prostitution. but that isn’t necessarily the same as intending to rape a child. does this have to be explained to you?

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Dilbert_X
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Probably not, I'm hoping at least Ghislaine Maxwell gets done for pimping minors.
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How good of a Duke was the Duke of York? What function does he perform for the British people? I am genuinely asking. A lot of people have been relishing the fact that some high profile people's live's can get blown up probably for more entertainment than genuine concern for the well being of high school girls. We all assume rich people are living in an Eyes Wide Shut reality and if the person is performing public good does this small evil even matter?

Obama has been the best president of at least the past 20 years. If he liked 15 year white girls every so often why would that matter for me? Would that undo the good that he has done for the country? I say it wouldn't.
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What the hell man
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All I am saying is that the Epstein saga is more a giant media event and entertainment than it is people actually caring about sex trafficking.
Dilbert_X
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Compared with the huge numbers of girls trafficked in the US its trivial, its that it involves high profile people.
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welp im still around and it seems this is the only active part of this forum, so ill join in.
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How did you rediscover this place?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Hey guys, I just finished watching this amazing docudrama - Real World Facts about MH370

The acting was great, and it really portrayed the suffering of all the people who died and all their relatives. People don't like dying and their relatives don't like it either, I didn't know this before - thank god for TV! There were some inconsistencies here and there, but they don't matter.

Also one thing I didn't know - the crash could have been much worse. Apparently an aeroplane weighing 50,000 tons and travelling at twice the speed of light hitting the Indian ocean would create a tsunami which could swamp Australia and wipe out the western side of South America - killing millions of people and upsetting their relatives.

Anyhoo, I've decided, the human cost of air travel is just too high, people should stop using aeroplanes because its just not worth the risk.
https://files.brightside.me/files/news/part_79/794148/ezgifcom-video-to-gif2-1567078514.gif
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So um yeah that kinda proves it was a big deal no
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Larssen wrote:

So um yeah that kinda proves it was a big deal no
No. It proves it was spread over a wide area and sufficiently diluted. Humans have some resiliency to radiation. If we didn't, places like Colorado would be uninhabitable.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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uziq
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humans have resiliency to radiation? have you seen the hospitals full of deformed children in ukraine?
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Larssen wrote:

So um yeah that kinda proves it was a big deal no
Doesn't prove anything unless you know what it means.

I thought it was funny as it looked like Russia pissing all over Europe.
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uziq wrote:

humans have resiliency to radiation? have you seen the hospitals full of deformed children in ukraine?
Yes, it's not like you get exposed and it's a 100% guarantee you get cancer. There is a threshold past which your exposure increases your likelihood of cancer, but humans deal with a certain amount of background radiation every day. There is natural uranium, boron, etc in the soil which decays and releases radiation. The amount released to say, Stockholm, wasn't enough to cause even a single case of cancer, but it sure looks scary in a gif.

A few years ago people were posting stuff about Fukushina radiation reaching the west coast of the US and freaking out about it, but the amount of new radiation wasn't anywhere near even the natural background radiation. People get scared easily, and it's usually nothing.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Dilbert_X
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There are a few different kinds of radiation, and exposure routes.
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