21 tory’s, including some who have until recently been senior cabinet ministers, and others who have been dyed-in-the-wool deep blue conservatives for 30 years (including winston churchill’s grandson, natch) have had the whip taken from them and been banished from their own party. why? because they rebelled against johnson in the EXACT same spirit as i outlined above: the referendum was for brexit, but not for a catastrophic no deal one. what were you huffing and puffing about for the last two pages, again? whiny remainers trying to ignore ‘the people’? seems now that the majority of the house of parliament, including those who have been pro-brexit and voting for it all along, are acting like ‘whiny remainers’. oh dear!
the current PM and his cabinet are a joke. they consistently voted to frustrate proceedings over the last two years, scuppering any deals and blocking parliamentary process. as soon as they grab the wheel, they threaten to call elections or kick their own party members out for not supporting them — when they’ve been the rebels for two years! the disingenuousness of it is staggering. johnson, a man who drove around the country with ‘let’s give £350 million a week back to our NHS’ stickered on a bus, is now insisting we drive off a cliff into a hugely damaging no deal scenario. (it’s funny how these hardliners, who seem perverse in the face of continual warnings and economic forecasts, like rees-mogg above, are all investors with sizeable financial portfolios— wonder how much farage and his hedge fund pals are making off the devaluation of the pound? it’s profitable, acting in the interests of ‘the people’!)
you keep saying that people like myself need to ‘get over it’ and accept democracy. accepting democracy doesn’t mean consenting to other’s opposing views: it means consenting to proper democratic process and understanding that it doesn’t always give you what you, personally, want. baying mobs don’t get instant leverage of power, and politicians don’t get to instantly enact things because of ‘the people’. a process has to be followed, and the current cabinet, with its talk of ‘ignoring any bills that are passed’ and proroguing parliament so that MPs have no time to schedule motions, is trying to get around the proper legislative and legal processes of the country, because they know that their no deal policy does not have the support of the majority of the house, and by proxy then that of the country’s. that’s an incredibly dishonest and dangerous game. people who complain about it are not complaining because they’re butt hurt over losing the referendum. if you can’t see the difference then you are quite stupid.
you know something has gone potty when ken clarke, the father of the house and a true conservative politician for FIFTY years, is saying this.
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