Announcement

Join us on Discord: https://discord.gg/nf43FxS
Discuss.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,793|5012|949

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/02/ … t-arrests/

no charges filed.  The police union said that the officer sustained multiple injuries and caused no injuries.

Alternatively, 13 year old beats up off duty cop!  Fucking pussy!
SuperJail Warden
Member
+197|2099

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I almost feel bad that the cop looks exactly as I'd envisioned from just hearing about it.
I went to a hibachi restaurant last night with a friend. We were seated with two other couples. Of course the tubby bald guy was a Trump supporter and liked law enforcement.

Fat bald men. Never trust them.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+712|5065|United States of America
It bothers me as a person who doesn't accept the "firearms are an individual right" argument that I may very well end up owning them as a measure of protection from what's happened as a result the crackpot secessionist militias and libertarian idiots. The argument is so stupid that it's consumed itself and come out on the other side to convince me.
uziq
Member
+171|1832
my uncle lived in florida for a while whilst trying to expand his real-estate business. he met with the local sheriff in his little gated community and, in the course of a conversation, went from being an anti-guns skeptical brit to a gun-toting home-defender. it really do be like that. get a gun or be outgunned.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+556|5094|Purplicious Wisconsin

uziq wrote:

get a gun or be outgunned.
Amen
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
uziq
Member
+171|1832
i think it's really sad to live in a first-world country and be under the constant fear of a lethal home-invasion or a fight in a bar with a guy who pulls a weapon.. burglaries happen in the UK too, of course, but people don't have to worry about guns being involved. generally speaking i never fear violence - let alone lethal violence involving a weapon - in my daily life here. going to sleep with a gun cabinet in your bedroom strikes me as something wholly appropriate for a society like eritrea or somalia, not the west.

i see the pragmatic reasoning behind arming yourself because the bad guys have guns, but honestly that strikes me as a really depressing state of affairs.

Last edited by uziq (2019-07-17 03:22:18)

War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+556|5094|Purplicious Wisconsin

uziq wrote:

i think it's really sad to live in a first-world country and be under the constant fear of a lethal home-invasion or a fight in a bar with a guy who pulls a weapon.. burglaries happen in the UK too, of course, but people don't have to worry about guns being involved. generally speaking i never fear violence - let alone lethal violence involving a weapon - in my daily life here. going to sleep with a gun cabinet in your bedroom strikes me as something wholly appropriate for a society like eritrea or somalia, not the west.

i see the pragmatic reasoning behind arming yourself because the bad guys have guns, but honestly that strikes me as a really depressing state of affairs.
What's wrong with owning guns for the sake of owning guns? Especially guns of historical significance like an M1 Garand or any variant of the Thompson smg?
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
uziq
Member
+171|1832
if you're into historical re-enactment and fetishizing ww2 guns, go nuts. why do they have to be functional? are you going to shoot nazis in wisconsin?
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+712|5065|United States of America
I concur it's a sad state of affairs. I know that fascists will disingenuously use the mechanisms of democracy to gain power. I know the Moron Labe crowd say having a plethora of guns is better for society, when they're making it so unsafe that it necessitates more gun ownership from those who otherwise wouldn't. There is a subsection of the far left that is very pro-firearm and whatnot, but I'm not quite there.

I generally feel very safe as well, even walking alone in that warzone of *gasp* Chicago. Since all these white suburbanites aren't actually living on the South Side and in the shit, I cannot fathom why they think they need multiple guns to hand.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,621|4486|eXtreme to the maX
Come the zombie apocalypse you need to rotate your ARs or they overheat, thats why you need 10-20 at least.

I like guns and shooting but everyone having a gun does not make you safer, a gun on your hip does not make you bulletproof.
Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+1,749|5152|USA

I don't think collecting makes you any more dangerous than owning a single, or small handful, of firearms. Whether it's one AR/ar-type or twenty, keep it secured.

Also, yes it doesn't make you bullet proof. The argument is usually that it gives you a chance to fight back if you can gather enough wits in time. Situationally, it would be easier to shoot up some church in a nice neighborhood than a place where multiple patrons are packing, with at least one deciding to fight back.

A truly depressing state of affairs, as zeek put it, made even more so by the strange, perverse pride people take in it.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+556|5094|Purplicious Wisconsin

uziq wrote:

if you're into historical re-enactment and fetishizing ww2 guns, go nuts. why do they have to be functional?
Same reason you would like reading books. You wouldn't want your book collection to have all pages glued together or each page painted all over to cover the words now would you?
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,621|4486|eXtreme to the maX
Why do car collectors cars have to be functional?
The average car collector would be pissed if they had to drill holes in the engine block and slash all the tyres to keep an antique car.

Having said that in Australia at least 'historical collecting' is simply a back door for retards to get hold of guns they couldn't by any other means.
Its hardly an issue in the US though.
Whats retarded is museums being required to deactivate their guns.

Its a general sign of immaturity and irresponsibility that people can't be trusted with anything these days.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2019-07-17 20:31:02)

Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
uziq
Member
+171|1832

War Man wrote:

uziq wrote:

if you're into historical re-enactment and fetishizing ww2 guns, go nuts. why do they have to be functional?
Same reason you would like reading books. You wouldn't want your book collection to have all pages glued together or each page painted all over to cover the words now would you?
sorry did i miss something? were there nearly 40,000 book-related deaths in the US last year?

reading more books seems to make you generally smarter. im willing to bet that the more guns you own, the stupider you generally are.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,621|4486|eXtreme to the maX
You don't need to own books though do you?
You could just go to a library and look at them there.
Why do YOU need to own books?
I mean, people use books to make people do bad things, how many deaths have been caused by books?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Mein_Kampf_-_The_Stalag_Edition_-_The_Only_Complete_and_Officially_Authorised_English_Translation_Ever_Issued_%281940%29_-_Adolf_Hitler_0000.jpg/220px-Mein_Kampf_-_The_Stalag_Edition_-_The_Only_Complete_and_Officially_Authorised_English_Translation_Ever_Issued_%281940%29_-_Adolf_Hitler_0000.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/72/d0/f472d0ceb23f4db85e17b1cdaeabb3da.jpg

https://www.judaicawebstore.com/media/catalog/product/Assets/NewProductImages/product_page_image_large_no_frame/j/t/jt-1101-2.jpg

Makes all the deaths caused by guns pale into nothing:
You could just own replicas with the pages glued together, and read carefully sanitised government approved books at the library, no need for private ownership of books - think of all the lives saved!

Relevant:

https://i.imgur.com/Egpjxu0.jpg

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2019-07-18 03:28:10)

Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
uziq
Member
+171|1832
owning books is a great idea. you can annotate them, circulate them to your friends as you wish. if you think owning books is all about hoarding and gathering dust then i guess you don’t actually use books very prominently in your life. you can’t take a library book down off the shelf any time you want a quotation or reference.

the ‘use’ argument for owning a fully automatic weapon just because it was used to spray down nazis in neuville, not so convincing unfortunately.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,621|4486|eXtreme to the maX
Owning guns is a great idea, you can work on them, improve them, learn how to use them, circulate them to your friends and maintain them for the next generation's enjoyment.
if you think owning guns is all about hoarding and gathering dust then i guess you don’t actually use guns very prominently in your life. you can’t take a museum gun down off the shelf any time you need to shoot a zombie.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2019-07-18 03:36:23)

Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,621|4486|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:

owning books is a great idea. you can annotate them, circulate them to your friends as you wish. if you think owning books is all about hoarding and gathering dust then i guess you don’t actually use books very prominently in your life. you can’t take a library book down off the shelf any time you want a quotation or reference.

the ‘use’ argument for owning a fully automatic weapon just because it was used to spray down nazis in neuville, not so convincing unfortunately.
Private ownership of books has led to millions of deaths, they should only be held by government agencies, no need for the private citizen to be owning books.
Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
uziq
Member
+171|1832
yes dilbert. books are responsible for deaths. they are lethal instruments. i think you’re really stretching things. people died for ideas in your above examples, ideology, not the book. communism and fascism exist outside of paper pages, which are only a means of conveying them among many other media or tools.

as far as stupid and contrived arguments go, this is up there with your best.

Last edited by uziq (2019-07-18 04:13:51)

Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,621|4486|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:

people died for ideas in your above examples, ideology, ... paper pages, ....are ...a means of conveying them
So for your own venal self-interest you're prepared to put public safety at risk?
I'm coming to the conclusion you're not a hipster at all, everything you've told us is lies.
as far as stupid and contrived arguments go, this is up there with your best.
Its got to be near the top.

Anyway, I don't see why black people shooting each other is an argument for preventing white people owning guns.
Your virus system is infected with windows. Please to be giving me your credit card details urgently
uziq
Member
+171|1832
how am i putting public safety at risk? all i said was i don’t see ‘historical significance’ or interest as a valid reason to own a lethal weapon. mg-42s belong in museum exhibits, not people’s hands.
SuperJail Warden
Member
+197|2099
Visual media like movies, television, video games, and YouTube is a massive problem. They kill more people than guns and books.
uziq
Member
+171|1832
you sound like a cultural conservative from the 1980s complaining about rap music and action movies. the jury is out on the influence or non-influence of the movies or gangster rap on actual violence. they are only one part of a very complex process of an individual’s socialisation within society.

though i agree broadly that there is something almost uniquely violent and aggressive in american culture. other countries with wide access to legal firearms don’t post the same homicide rates.

but i still don’t buy the argument that a bunch of divorcees in michigan need access to automatic rifles and arsenals. the militia and civic rights argument is pure fantasy.

Last edited by uziq (2019-07-18 05:37:33)

SuperJail Warden
Member
+197|2099
I am not just talking about violence. Drug overdoses, fatal drunk driving accidents, rape, sexual assault. The media is constantly telling people they need to live a certain way or have certain things and it makes people unhappy when they can't achieve it or hurt themselves trying to.
uziq
Member
+171|1832
i think consumerism and the pursuit of happiness generally sort of transcend the media.

Board footer

Privacy Policy - © 2019 Jeff Minard