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uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

uziq wrote:

well i didn't posit the first thing, did i? not sure many educated people did at the time, either. pointing at saddam after 9/11 was as mystifying then as now.

but i'm not sure what angle that graphic is taking. how is ISIS anything like iran?!?
The image is from Benjamin netanyahu's Twitter account.
do you remember the scientific diagram that he brought out at a UN summit which was like the three-stages of iran having a nuclear bomb. hilarious. he showed it with such portentousness.
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

uziq wrote:

well i didn't posit the first thing, did i? not sure many educated people did at the time, either. pointing at saddam after 9/11 was as mystifying then as now.

but i'm not sure what angle that graphic is taking. how is ISIS anything like iran?!?
The image is from Benjamin netanyahu's Twitter account.
do you remember the scientific diagram that he brought out at a UN summit which was like the three-stages of iran having a nuclear bomb. hilarious. he showed it with such portentousness.
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Jay wrote:

Rather the Jews, honestly. They just want to be left alone.
LOL OK
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uziq
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yeah the history of unilateral aggression and skirmishes/wars by the israeli military and paramilitary groups does not exactly attest to that, jay.
Dilbert_X
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Yes, Israel is a country which just wants to be left alone within its borders.

https://themuslimtimesdotinfodotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/settlements.jpg
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SuperJail Warden
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A lot of people consider the Palestinian people to be a "fake" or imagined group of people since there was never an independent Arabic state in Palestine. So in their minds Israel just wants to keep to itself and deal with the "fake" people like they are stuck with.
Dilbert_X
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Thats the line the Israelis push. Most 'Israelis' are Russian immigrants who have no connection to the region at all, they certainly are a fake people, not so much the people who have been living there for the last 2000 years.

Most of the world is lines on maps, doesn't mean the lines can be arbitrarily moved and the people expelled or murdered.

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uziq
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i was going to say, 'fake' israelis covers a wide breadth of people, even amongst israeli citizens. they all look down on the russian and slav immigrant jews as some lower order.
SuperJail Warden
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I was just rereading Psalm 137 and it dawned on me that the Jews never get criticized for what is actually in the Torah the same way the Muslims do for the Koran. I guess it would be weird for Christians to basically point out that half of their Bible is the story about how the Jews went to war with and killed all the people around them.
Dilbert_X
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"Blessed the one who seizes your children and smashes them against the rock: the children represent the future generations, and so must be destroyed if the enemy is truly to be eradicated."

Religion of peace.

It explains why the IDF have been OK with targeting children.

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Dilbert_X
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America was founded by rich megalomaniacs for the benefit of rich megalomaniacs and the constitution and system of government written and created to benefit rich megalomaniacs in perpetuity.

Its just as untrue to say everyone in America has equal rights and opportunities as it would be to say everyone under Stalinist communism was as equal as each other.
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Are you actually bemoaning a privilege disparity?
Dilbert_X
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No, just the hypocrisy, although excess privilege is a bad thing.
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SuperJail Warden
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So how does everyone feel about the U.K. losing Scotland and Northern Ireland? It would be kind of funny to see the U.K. dissolve only to have England rejoin the E.U. 12 years down the line.
Dilbert_X
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They'll all fade into irrelevance, Scotland and Ireland are dreaming if they think they'll be better off.
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uziq
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wales will be the worst off, they operate at a 20% national budget deficit every year and nasty evil england (or the EU, oops) tops off the rest.

scotland is naive and will probably turn into a petro-economy, about as stable as venezuela in other words. scotland is full of soft socialists who enjoy free medicine and free university fees ... again paid for by nasty evil westminster.

too many people in wales and scotland are unemployed or underemployed. they haven’t joined the 21st century service economies. a bunch of grumbling fishermen and ex-miners/steel plant workers do not a healthy socialist republic make.

ireland i feel differently about. they have convincing arguments for unification and self-determination.
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I was recently reading about Northern Ireland's renewable energy scandal and subsequent lack of an executive government for the past couple years. That's some proper dysfunction.
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Does anyone find it weird that anyone that is even remotely Jewish has it included in their wikipedia biography? X's great grandmother was of Russian Jewish decent etc. No other race/religion gets so emphasized. Think it's proud Jewish people or anti semites doing it? Seems very yellow star-ish.
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uziq
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yeah i think there is a concerted effort to mention it. but also maybe a bit of a cognitive bias on our part. like really how often would you notice if someone was identified as an armenian or a spanish emigre?
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Aren't you considered Jewish if your mother was Jewish anyway?
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uziq wrote:

ireland i feel differently about. they have convincing arguments for unification and self-determination.
What to do with the protestants foisted on them though?
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Dilbert_X
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Jay wrote:

Does anyone find it weird that anyone that is even remotely Jewish has it included in their wikipedia biography? X's great grandmother was of Russian Jewish decent etc. No other race/religion gets so emphasized. Think it's proud Jewish people or anti semites doing it? Seems very yellow star-ish.
Its to remind you they're better than you. They've done it throughout history and its why they've historically been unpopular.

American jews go nuts over it, they do get special treatment in return - even though, as with the French resistance, only a small fraction of holocaust survivors really were.
Outside America no one cares too much..

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uziq
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a truly bizarre comparison. you are nuts.

what does the issue of the french resistance/vichy have to do with holocaust survivors? christ man. many people in france during that period were never really resistants, it became a category to lie about to hide family compliance/obeisance. do you really think lots of jews lie about having incinerated relatives in the same way?

no one outside of america cares about jewish roots? i’m pretty sure france, germany, the uk, etc, all have sizeable jewish communities and intellectuals who identify as such.
Dilbert_X
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European Jews don't wear it like a badge in the way Americans do, and to be fair Americans generally drone on about their distant european ancestry.
How do we know Jay is Danish for example?

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