Michael Jackson named one of his kids Blanket. Titan is a brilliant name by comparison.
The difference is that Michael Jackson's kids will always grow up with fuck you money. They don't need to put that shit on a resume. Titan? He'll need to find his way into a profession at some point. Even if he gets the interview his conical head will raise doubts concerning upholding the image of the company.
It might have made sense to name him after one of the Titans, but 'Titan' not really.
My sister knows someone who named her son Darius, the wogs here cling on to their ancient history because lets face it they don't have much now.
My sister knows someone who named her son Darius, the wogs here cling on to their ancient history because lets face it they don't have much now.
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I just realised, that works perfectly - Subaru Forester XDilbert_X wrote:
I think I can now call any child Subaru Forester.
I'm a genius.
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Erik Ole and Henry Anders are social climber names? Lol. Erik was my great grandfather, and it's my middle name. Ole was my wife's great grandfather's name. Anders is from my family.uziq wrote:
i think this is the first time in history where naming conventions have become completely unmoored from class. it's odd. in the old times you could pin someone's background based on their name, but now there's like 'modern' names and 'old' names. what is it with modern parents being so fucking precious that they want to name their kids after a fruit or a ocean breeze?
they should learn from jay's example. guy is giving his kids 3 names each associated with the english in 1900 in an effort to brute force his greasy technician's hands into the accepted middle-class. i do worry about how 'george edward littleton' is going to fit on a burger king name card, though.
Henry was my wife's choice. Personally, I wanted Tyler.
The trendy yuppie names right now are stuff like Caleb, Declan, Benjamin (or Bennett) and Liam. Pass. I have to pick names that don't look stupid in front of my German surname.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
you dodged a bullet with tyler. that's a name for a car mechanic.
Tyler Perry posing as a car, that could work.uziq wrote:
you dodged a bullet with tyler. that's a name for a car mechanic.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +635|3717
For what it is worth, your average mechanic makes more than Jay does right now.
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The cousin who named her kid Titan has a husband named Tyler...it's all coming together. He's also a millwright, which isn't far off being a mechanic.
Isn't Macbeth a mechanic?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +635|3717
I prefer "automotive technician". But yes I am. I have been at it since I was 15. Even though I have a degree I haven't moved onto white collar office work because I can't stomach taking a big pay cut in order to become an entry level whatever someplace.
Nothing wrong with being a mechanic. Good ones are hard to find
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
there's something called social capital.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I prefer "automotive technician". But yes I am. I have been at it since I was 15. Even though I have a degree I haven't moved onto white collar office work because I can't stomach taking a big pay cut in order to become an entry level whatever someplace.
also you'll be in a much better position as a white collar 40 year old than a mechanic.
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +635|3717
I have a love hate relationship with it. I hate being dirty after work and explaining what I did with my education to my old friends from school.
I love being self reliant and having the stability that a lot of workers don't have. My job can't be outsourced to China and since technicians needs to supply their own tools, someone can't just walk in give my job a try.
I love being self reliant and having the stability that a lot of workers don't have. My job can't be outsourced to China and since technicians needs to supply their own tools, someone can't just walk in give my job a try.
I'm with Mike Rowe, I think shitting on people in the trades has done a world of hurt to a lot of people. There's nothing inherently superior to white collar work, but it's been put up on a pedestal because pretentious people need someone to look down their nose at. If you're a good mechanic, stick with it. You shouldn't feel ashamed.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
White collar work is working 50-60 hours a week, getting paid for 40, and patting yourself on the back for pushing paper while laughing at the higher paid dirty people who actually make society run. If we want our society to advance we need to convince more smart people to go into the trades, not less.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +635|3717
Yeah no shit dude. I don't want children or to own a big house in the suburbs though.uziq wrote:
there's something called social capital.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I prefer "automotive technician". But yes I am. I have been at it since I was 15. Even though I have a degree I haven't moved onto white collar office work because I can't stomach taking a big pay cut in order to become an entry level whatever someplace.
I am not sure about that.Uzi wrote:
also you'll be in a much better position as a white collar 40 year old than a mechanic.
There are a lot of older techs who make much more than office workers at the same age. Outsourcing and foreign workers sometimes wipe out entire office buildings of workers here.
i'd rather have a job in the cultural sector and make 1/2 the salary of a top-end technician, to be honest. the work socialisation is better, the colleagues and networking is better, the overall quality of life is just much more civilised. i don't think it's pretentious to say that, either. it's just a different social world and one that i find much more amenable to living 'the good life' (and by that i clearly mean i'm not hankering for the executive's house in new england, either). i think most people who work in manual trades or services for their whole lives want their children to not do that work. you get lots of first and second generation migrants over here who make a very nice living and become very affluent based on 'ignoble' work. but it's backbreaking. they all send their kids to college for a reason.
i don't look down on trades but i know that i'd rather have a job that uses my cultural knowledge than have to do backbreaking labour. god knows where jay gets his jaded view of white-collar work from. he must work in a very stifling and hierarchical corporate job. i work in an office that has an extremely flat hierarchy and the ethos is collaborative. people love being at work. and not in that masochistic, ur-american sense, where people 'love' that they work 60-hour-weeks and live for the company. my work genuinely doesn't feel like work a lot of the time. but sure, whatever you say springsteen. you're the guy who has spent half a decade of your life in higher education and tens of thousands of dollars. most would want some sort of ROI on that.
i don't look down on trades but i know that i'd rather have a job that uses my cultural knowledge than have to do backbreaking labour. god knows where jay gets his jaded view of white-collar work from. he must work in a very stifling and hierarchical corporate job. i work in an office that has an extremely flat hierarchy and the ethos is collaborative. people love being at work. and not in that masochistic, ur-american sense, where people 'love' that they work 60-hour-weeks and live for the company. my work genuinely doesn't feel like work a lot of the time. but sure, whatever you say springsteen. you're the guy who has spent half a decade of your life in higher education and tens of thousands of dollars. most would want some sort of ROI on that.
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I like skilled manual work, its how the _X millions were made, I like it when 'professionals' sneer and then have to pay through the nose for something they could do for themselves in a few minutes if they'd just pick up a spanner or screwdriver. Take a day off work and pay out of your own pocket at your top marginal rate of tax for simple work? Good luck.
There's plenty of history and 'cultural knowledge'. Just being able to speak the same language and knowing the same lore as a technician or tradesman is a skill by itself which requires much learning.
People complain about being ripped off by plumbers, mechanics etc. If they had some relevant knowledge or connection at a personal level it would be less likely to happen, and no-one rips off the average person like a lawyer, doctor or accountant so I actually enjoy watching it happen.
There's plenty of history and 'cultural knowledge'. Just being able to speak the same language and knowing the same lore as a technician or tradesman is a skill by itself which requires much learning.
People complain about being ripped off by plumbers, mechanics etc. If they had some relevant knowledge or connection at a personal level it would be less likely to happen, and no-one rips off the average person like a lawyer, doctor or accountant so I actually enjoy watching it happen.
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i never said there isn't history and knowledge involved in manual work. that's obvious. i mean working in the cultural sector, not getting your hands dirty. not even having to dress up for work and get into an 'office' state of mind. that's work which is most amenable to me.
People complain about being ripped off by plumbers, mechanics, etc. because they are. Shopping around for blue collar services is like navigating a minefield of willful incompetence. For the life of me, I don't understand why Dilbert derives a perverse pleasure out of seeing people get cheated and lied to. It's pretty cunty.
Why does Dilbert have this weird complex about people who hire out for tasks they're not specialized for, don't want to learn, and don't like doing? The last thing I'd want to do with my spare time is drive back and forth to the hardware store all weekend for tools and parts if I had a trustworthy, reliable plumber, whose job it is to know this stuff, a phone call away. People shouldn't feel guilty about this the same way they shouldn't feel guilty about hiring a construction company to come build a house.
I've seen the same contemptuous attitude in services when I worked on computers in my teens. Someone brings a system for repairs, and they're met with fake smiles and fingers crossed behind backs. While I'm sitting around replacing burnt out hardware or corrupted system files, my co-workers laugh about how idiotic their customers are, and how they could do all these mundane tasks themselves if they were "smart like us." So fucking repulsive.
But yeah, blame the victim for getting swindled because it's their fault for not having the right connections.
Why does Dilbert have this weird complex about people who hire out for tasks they're not specialized for, don't want to learn, and don't like doing? The last thing I'd want to do with my spare time is drive back and forth to the hardware store all weekend for tools and parts if I had a trustworthy, reliable plumber, whose job it is to know this stuff, a phone call away. People shouldn't feel guilty about this the same way they shouldn't feel guilty about hiring a construction company to come build a house.
I've seen the same contemptuous attitude in services when I worked on computers in my teens. Someone brings a system for repairs, and they're met with fake smiles and fingers crossed behind backs. While I'm sitting around replacing burnt out hardware or corrupted system files, my co-workers laugh about how idiotic their customers are, and how they could do all these mundane tasks themselves if they were "smart like us." So fucking repulsive.
But yeah, blame the victim for getting swindled because it's their fault for not having the right connections.
dilbert is one of those conflicted men who don't know how to comprehend their personal failures and so likes to beat a very worn drum about 'the death of manhood' and 'the pussification of the male species'. because he can grease a gun and replace a flat tire on a subaru he feels better about having to pay women to have sex with him. he likes talking up the value of practical thinking and problem solving because he doesn't understand people.
i am not going to romanticise blue-collar workers. a lot of them are chancers and shirkers and will look to rip off a wealthy customer. there's always been a deeply ingrained culture of 'fadging' the job in the uk: a few missing pallets off the back of a truck, a few conveniently damaged items, a little skimmed off here and there. they're not some noble person taking up a craft like a fucking dutch lens grinder in the high renaissance. they are mostly people who sucked at school and turned their hands to the next best thing that still paid good money.
but cool if macbeth wants to get two undergraduate degrees, more than anyone needs and more than is considered practicable and useful for 99.99% of students, and then sit on a car forecourt all day. he's just like good will hunting.
i am not going to romanticise blue-collar workers. a lot of them are chancers and shirkers and will look to rip off a wealthy customer. there's always been a deeply ingrained culture of 'fadging' the job in the uk: a few missing pallets off the back of a truck, a few conveniently damaged items, a little skimmed off here and there. they're not some noble person taking up a craft like a fucking dutch lens grinder in the high renaissance. they are mostly people who sucked at school and turned their hands to the next best thing that still paid good money.
but cool if macbeth wants to get two undergraduate degrees, more than anyone needs and more than is considered practicable and useful for 99.99% of students, and then sit on a car forecourt all day. he's just like good will hunting.
To each their own. I do my own plumbing, electrical, woodworking, etc. because I find it enjoyable to work with my hands. I've renovated three rooms in my house so far and rebuilt my heating system. It's enjoyable to me to learn new skills, and I like it a helluva lot more than watching tv or playing video games. I also know that the work I do will be done right because I have to live here.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
People complain about being ripped off by plumbers, mechanics, etc. because they are. Shopping around for blue collar services is like navigating a minefield of willful incompetence. For the life of me, I don't understand why Dilbert derives a perverse pleasure out of seeing people get cheated and lied to. It's pretty cunty.
Why does Dilbert have this weird complex about people who hire out for tasks they're not specialized for, don't want to learn, and don't like doing? The last thing I'd want to do with my spare time is drive back and forth to the hardware store all weekend for tools and parts if I had a trustworthy, reliable plumber, whose job it is to know this stuff, a phone call away. People shouldn't feel guilty about this the same way they shouldn't feel guilty about hiring a construction company to come build a house.
I've seen the same contemptuous attitude in services when I worked on computers in my teens. Someone brings a system for repairs, and they're met with fake smiles and fingers crossed behind backs. While I'm sitting around replacing burnt out hardware or corrupted system files, my co-workers laugh about how idiotic their customers are, and how they could do all these mundane tasks themselves if they were "smart like us." So fucking repulsive.
But yeah, blame the victim for getting swindled because it's their fault for not having the right connections.
Personally, I find it to be rather ironic that a bunch of smart people with college degrees turn their noses up at manual labor and thus become dependent on the people they look down on. You end up working hard only to pay people to do stuff for you. That's fine at the high end when you're dealing with specialists that give a shit, i.e. eating a chef made meal in a restaurant, but if you're taking your car in for an oil change, you get what you pay for.
The snobbery all stems from people like uzi putting on airs and pretending they're part of the gentry. It's to his own detriment, so whatever.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
See: Bernie Madoff and the 2008 financial crisis. Theft doesn't belong to only one class.uziq wrote:
dilbert is one of those conflicted men who don't know how to comprehend their personal failures and so likes to beat a very worn drum about 'the death of manhood' and 'the pussification of the male species'. because he can grease a gun and replace a flat tire on a subaru he feels better about having to pay women to have sex with him. he likes talking up the value of practical thinking and problem solving because he doesn't understand people.
i am not going to romanticise blue-collar workers. a lot of them are chancers and shirkers and will look to rip off a wealthy customer. there's always been a deeply ingrained culture of 'fadging' the job in the uk: a few missing pallets off the back of a truck, a few conveniently damaged items, a little skimmed off here and there. they're not some noble person taking up a craft like a fucking dutch lens grinder in the high renaissance. they are mostly people who sucked at school and turned their hands to the next best thing that still paid good money.
but cool if macbeth wants to get two undergraduate degrees, more than anyone needs and more than is considered practicable and useful for 99.99% of students, and then sit on a car forecourt all day. he's just like good will hunting.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
i agree