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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Jay wrote:

If this site is going to devolve into four years of Macbeth whining about Trump it's going to be so lame.
There is nothing stopping you from posting some reason.con articles or making the libertarian case for blah for the 170th time.
How's the asian fetish going?
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I reconnected with a Chinese girl I hooked up with a few times at RU. Se lives a 5 minute drive into Newark from me.
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Jay wrote:

If this site is going to devolve into four years of Macbeth whining about Trump it's going to be so lame.
We've had eight years of people whining about Obama.
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uziq wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

uziq wrote:

do you know what the petit-bourgeoisie is?
The class of workers who manage the assets and direct work on the behalf of the high bourgeois. Also includes small scale owners of capital such as independent merchants, licensed professionals, and private land owning farmers.

These people are probably just proles who absorbed the ideology of the bourgeois without even making it beyond typical wage work.
well done for copying the first paragraph from wikipedia. you clearly are not familiar with the use of 'petit-bourgeois' in nearly all marxian discourse. the petit-bourgeois are the small shopkeepers and people given a little bit of authority at work – not the warehouse guys but the smalltime supervisors, the overseers, the office clerks – those precisely who emulate and affect the bourgeoisie (the proletariat certainly don't do this). they are not independently wealthy. they may manage the property but that basically only translates to 'are salaried'. they do not own the means of production and they are most definitely not rich. they are only distinguished from the proletariat mass in that they normally have white-collar jobs and enjoy small comforts at work. this (low) level of education and culture makes them think, naturally, they are better than everyone else. it's this mock-bourgeois mentality that leads to fascism (or did so in germany, anyway). a nation of outraged bank clerks and parsimonious village postmasters on the march.

a good expression of petit-bourgeois ideology is poujadism. you can wikipedia that one, too, seeing as rutgers clearly didn't equip you that well.

the people in that video seem pretty much to be classic examples of the snarling, acquisitive, bigoted, fake-respectable petit-bourgeois. mealy-mouthed little fuckers who think they represent 'commonsense' and 'virtue'.
I think I should read some Marx, where should I start? Das Kapital?
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the eighteenth brumaire is one of the best pieces of political analysis you will ever read. short on economics and pseudo-scientific abstraction, too.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Meh I didn't study Marxism in college specifically. I still know a bit without needing to check Wikipedia though.

I really don't care that much.
What sort of college did you go to that your godless, communist professors didn't indoctrinate you as right-wingers claim they do? SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION, COMRADE!
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DesertFox- wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Meh I didn't study Marxism in college specifically. I still know a bit without needing to check Wikipedia though.

I really don't care that much.
What sort of college did you go to that your godless, communist professors didn't indoctrinate you as right-wingers claim they do? SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION, COMRADE!
I loved how all the marxist professors at uni never did a degree in economics.
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uziq wrote:

the eighteenth brumaire is one of the best pieces of political analysis you will ever read. short on economics and pseudo-scientific abstraction, too.
Thanks, I shall find an alternative café in Melbourne to read it in.
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I bet a latte in Australia is like $20.
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Cybargs wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Meh I didn't study Marxism in college specifically. I still know a bit without needing to check Wikipedia though.

I really don't care that much.
What sort of college did you go to that your godless, communist professors didn't indoctrinate you as right-wingers claim they do? SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION, COMRADE!
I loved how all the marxist professors at uni never did a degree in economics.
well most of marx is hegelianism. economic and fiscal theory make up a very tiny part of it (and even then, only late in his career in 'das kapital' and the like). marx was a political philosopher not an MBA lecturer. ideas such as alienation are far more salient and relevant through the ages than the analysis of the labour theory of value.

most humanities professors and theorists working in the marxian tradition seem to cope just fine without pseudo-science economics degrees.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Thanks, I shall find an alternative café in Melbourne to read it in.
it's short and is a lucid and perceptive study of 19th century history. it's honestly one of the most trenchant essays you'll read. hard to appreciate just how revolutionary his whole approach was at the time – the method and material with which he enflamed his argument. everyone should read it.

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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I bet a latte in Australia is like $20.
Well, only in hovels.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I bet a latte in Australia is like $20.
I work in the most hipster part of Sydney. It's under $5
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Jaekus wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

I bet a latte in Australia is like $20.
I work in the most hipster part of Sydney. It's under $5
newtown?
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Anyway, the far right in was defeated in presidential elections in Austria today and the populist reforms in Italy failed to pass. If upcoming in elections in Germany and France result in far right parties getting defeated, it is going to be really difficult for the U.K. and U.S. to explain how we let Brexit and Trump happen while the other major European electorates decided not to try to destroy the whole system.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Anyway, the far right in was defeated in presidential elections in Austria today and the populist reforms in Italy failed to pass. If upcoming in elections in Germany and France result in far right parties getting defeated, it is going to be really difficult for the U.K. and U.S. to explain how we let Brexit and Trump happen while the other major European electorates decided not to try to destroy the whole system.
uuuuhm, i really don't think you understand what is happening in italy.
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I probably don't. The people on CNN even seemed confused when they were reporting it.
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the far right and populists just won in italy. it became another anti-establishment vote.
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They may leave the Euro following the next elections.

It's so hard to predict what's going to happen though. Italy really has the weirdest politics.
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President-elect Donald Trump has picked Linda McMahon, a professional wrestling executive and former Republican contender for Connecticut's U.S. Senate seats, to lead the Small Business Administration.

“Linda is going to be a phenomenal leader and champion for small businesses and unleash America's entrepreneurial spirit all across the country," Trump said in a statement announcing the choice on Wednesday.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-tr … ion-232339


Bringing prestige back to the white house.
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half the white house have been in the ring with stone cold steve austin.

stay classy, america
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The US is apparently a nation where the grass gestapo will force their way into a tenant's home without a warrant because the landlord failed to keep up on garden clipping, where an autistic, naked 11-year-old will be tasered into submission, where recording police a house away from a police event is an invitation for said police to show up at your door with malicious intent, and on the flip side where apparently someone with a knife within leaping distance from a cop trying to talk them down isn't a threat.

I'd say our rot extends further into our hospitalize-each other-over-Black-Friday-savings, fat-ass-on-a-motorcart, utterly self-centered cultural core than a wrestling boss slipping into a position of power. Bigger names to worry about anyway, like the ones circulating in the rumor mill: Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani, Rick Perry, Ben Carson …

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Trump is going to appoint a retired general to Secretary of Defense and another retired general to Secretary of Homeland Security. Meanwhile a retired general will be his national security adviser.

The so called "liberal media" talked about how great the two generals were for secretary positions especially the SoD General "Mad Dog Mattis". It makes me want to vomit frankly. It goes to show you how militarist and conservative the American mindset is that even what is supposed to be the left is totally on board with handing over law enforcement and political positions to generals.

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