pirana6
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Learn to bump-fire.
It's the difference between killing one black person on the sidewalk in front of your house minding their own business, and 3.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6926|England. Stoke
Vote Trump that will keep you safe!!
Jay
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+2,006|5575|London, England
Why would you recommend a revolver? They're heavy and slow and a pain to reload.
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SuperJail Warden
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How many pocket revolvers can I carry around with me to keep my stuff in my possession?
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Jay
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If you wear a black trench coat, many. You can hide multiple MAC-10s under there.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
unnamednewbie13
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+2,053|6989|PNW

What the hell, "buy a revolver because of this record-setting video." Setting the bar pretty high.

There's still an argument to be made for a semi-automatic. With any handgun in self-defense, your first few shots at likely to miss due to nerves. Semi-autos generally have a more forgiving capacity.

Seriously, buy two AR-15's and dual-wield. And a third one to tuck into your sock as a spare in case a Muslim commando shoots one of your primaries in the barrel.
coke
Aye up duck!
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

How many pocket revolvers can I carry around with me to keep my stuff in my possession?
What stuff do you carry around that is worth someone taking your gun from you and shooting you with it?
All you're doing is adding the cost of the gun to the stuff that is being stolen from you and being shot...

Last edited by coke (2016-06-27 19:14:22)

SuperJail Warden
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Thanks for the suggestion everyone. What type of bullets should I get for my guns? Hollow points, full metal jackets, or armor piercing rounds? What will I need to take down a bad guy with a gun?
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Jay
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Hollow points are illegal in your state, so go to Pennsylvania and buy those.
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-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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What kind of body armor will I need to protect my vital organs? Should I get steel plates or ceramic plates? Do I need a helmet?
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KEN-JENNINGS
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unnamednewbie13
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Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6840|Little Bentcock
Just protect the kidneys
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6934|Riva, MD
I went to the shotgun range with my dad yesterday to go skeet shooting and got a few strange looks from people because we were using my pump action Remington 870.  I wasn't sure what to expect with a pump action for skeet but we had a lot of fun with it, it might actually be more fun to use a pump than an over-under because of the added challenge.  Makes you feel like a boss when you can hit two simultaneously launched clays with a pump shotgun.
Jay
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+2,006|5575|London, England
It's just a workout racking it. 870 is a fine shotgun. One day, when I'm old and gray and my income out races my bills, I want to buy a Browning.
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-Frederick Bastiat
pirana6
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+691|6508|Washington St.
Wait I've only ever shot pigeons with a pump-action. I thought that was the rules of skeet shooting. Every youtube vid of professions skeet shooters is w/ a pump.
Jay
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+2,006|5575|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:

Buy one now you mong, you'll be too old to use it.
$1,429.99

Tough to justify
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-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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Don't buy it Jay. You are statically more likely to put it in your mouth one day than defend your home.
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6934|Riva, MD
If you want Browning specifically, you can get this one and save a bit, although this model does come in a 10 Gauge option at other stores for the same price so I would just get that for novelty of it:

http://www.basspro.com/Browning-BPS-Sta … 308081032/

The 870 Express is hard to beat for value though, that's why I bought one.  $330 and there's a $50 rebate going on right now:

http://www.basspro.com/Remington-Model- … /10217887/

You could even buy the fancy laminated stock, polished receiver, chromed bolt-toting 870 Wingmaster and still save quite a bit over that Browning you picked:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Remingto … 327081.uts

pirana6 wrote:

Wait I've only ever shot pigeons with a pump-action. I thought that was the rules of skeet shooting. Every youtube vid of professions skeet shooters is w/ a pump.
Where were you looking?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ … t+shooting

Most of them are using a double barrel over-under or a semiautomatic shotgun.  Pump shotguns are a really fun challenge and the cheapest pumps are way cheaper than the cheapest of break-actions and semis but in actual competition they would put you at a huge disadvantage over the other two

The over-under allows for a quick semi-automatically delivered couple of shots just like you would ideally want for skeet since you're only ever shooting two targets in the air at most.  You can also get fancy and put two different chokes in each barrel so you have an open choke for closer range on the first shot and a slightly tighter choke on the 2nd barrel to narrow the spread and catch the 2nd clay which gained some distance while you were shooting at the first.

Semi shotguns are also a good choice.  They're more versatile if you also hunt or shoot in other clay games that allow more shots at a time, but for skeet you're only allowed to load two at a time even in a gun that can hold more(we got yelled at for loading 4 shells at stations where you had to shoot two singles and a double).  Some people don't like the idea of firing from two different barrels because no matter what, one is still firing from an ever so slightly different position than the other and sometimes one will have different characteristics and I think even some barrel harmonics are involved too, so they'll get a semi instead to keep it simple.  Semiautomatic shotguns also use part of the recoil to cycle the action so they don't kick as hard either, giving you slightly quicker target acquisition for the 2nd clay and less of a sore shoulder at the end of the day.

A lot of semis look just like pumps with really long slides(which on a semi is just a handle), maybe that's what you saw:


Remington 870 Wingmaster (Pump Action)
https://www.remington.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_gallery_1200/public/product/shotgun/galleryimages/870WingmasterMag_BTY.png?itok=ASlgjayL

Remington 1100 (Semi-automatic)
https://www.remington.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_gallery_1200/public/product/shotgun/galleryimages/1100_Sport28_silo.png?itok=nICNFfaQ
pirana6
Go Cougs!
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jnumbers wrote:

pirana6 wrote:

Wait I've only ever shot pigeons with a pump-action. I thought that was the rules of skeet shooting. Every youtube vid of professions skeet shooters is w/ a pump.
Where were you looking?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ … t+shooting
Huh I'll be damned. I guess I was watching trick shot stuff or amateur, back yard stuff.
Pump action skeet shooting seems way cooler though. Like driving a stick vs automatic.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6934|Riva, MD
It is, go buy a cheap one and try it.  You can get a Mossberg Maverick 88, which is the economy version of the 500, for under $200 in some places if you're looking for a really cheap namebrand shotty
pirana6
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_j5689_ wrote:

It is, go buy a cheap one and try it.  You can get a Mossberg Maverick 88, which is the economy version of the 500, for under $200 in some places if you're looking for a really cheap namebrand shotty
Oh I have, which is why I thought it was odd to shoot with a semi-auto

pirana6 wrote:

Wait I've only ever shot pigeons with a pump-action.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5575|London, England

_j5689_ wrote:

If you want Browning specifically, you can get this one and save a bit, although this model does come in a 10 Gauge option at other stores for the same price so I would just get that for novelty of it:

http://www.basspro.com/Browning-BPS-Sta … 308081032/

The 870 Express is hard to beat for value though, that's why I bought one.  $330 and there's a $50 rebate going on right now:

http://www.basspro.com/Remington-Model- … /10217887/

You could even buy the fancy laminated stock, polished receiver, chromed bolt-toting 870 Wingmaster and still save quite a bit over that Browning you picked:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Remingto … 327081.uts

pirana6 wrote:

Wait I've only ever shot pigeons with a pump-action. I thought that was the rules of skeet shooting. Every youtube vid of professions skeet shooters is w/ a pump.
Where were you looking?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ … t+shooting

Most of them are using a double barrel over-under or a semiautomatic shotgun.  Pump shotguns are a really fun challenge and the cheapest pumps are way cheaper than the cheapest of break-actions and semis but in actual competition they would put you at a huge disadvantage over the other two

The over-under allows for a quick semi-automatically delivered couple of shots just like you would ideally want for skeet since you're only ever shooting two targets in the air at most.  You can also get fancy and put two different chokes in each barrel so you have an open choke for closer range on the first shot and a slightly tighter choke on the 2nd barrel to narrow the spread and catch the 2nd clay which gained some distance while you were shooting at the first.

Semi shotguns are also a good choice.  They're more versatile if you also hunt or shoot in other clay games that allow more shots at a time, but for skeet you're only allowed to load two at a time even in a gun that can hold more(we got yelled at for loading 4 shells at stations where you had to shoot two singles and a double).  Some people don't like the idea of firing from two different barrels because no matter what, one is still firing from an ever so slightly different position than the other and sometimes one will have different characteristics and I think even some barrel harmonics are involved too, so they'll get a semi instead to keep it simple.  Semiautomatic shotguns also use part of the recoil to cycle the action so they don't kick as hard either, giving you slightly quicker target acquisition for the 2nd clay and less of a sore shoulder at the end of the day.

A lot of semis look just like pumps with really long slides(which on a semi is just a handle), maybe that's what you saw:


Remington 870 Wingmaster (Pump Action)


Remington 1100 (Semi-automatic)
I want the Browning A5 because it's semi-automatic and has the smoothest action available. Walnut stock... they're heirloom weapons. I could get a used 870 for a few hundred dollars if all I wanted was just to own one. The A5 is my wishlist item.
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-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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+2,006|5575|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:

Jay wrote:

I want the Browning A5 because it's semi-automatic and has the smoothest action available. Walnut stock... they're heirloom weapons. I could get a used 870 for a few hundred dollars if all I wanted was just to own one. The A5 is my wishlist item.
Meh, they're mass-market heirloom weapons. Read the reviews, those stocks crack.
Buy a gun to shoot, or put your money in gold.

The best shooters have guns which look like shit.
I go shooting a few times a year and either rent one or borrow my brothers 870. The rental is usually a semi Beretta, which is decent. I rented an over-under Browning one time and the thing felt like it was going to break my shoulder by the time I fired my 100th round. Usually costs me about $250 a session between the rental, the ammo and the course fee (it's a 12 location, 100 shot trap course). Fun times. I don't shoot often enough to justify buying, and I'd rather dump my spare cash into my woodshop.
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-Frederick Bastiat
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Gone Forever
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Some doofus set a bunch of pipe bombs all over the place and now every person on facebook who owns a gun is talking about how they would have John Rambo'd the guy and others if they see them lingering around a trash can.
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