KEN-JENNINGS
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When I was looking into UCLA biz school it was something like $50K/year for their fully employed MBA program

My work told me they would pay around $15K/year of it.  A nice gesture but I can't get over the idea of paying for student loans until I'm 40 years old.
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My girlfriend decided to do some envelope math while she was considering an MBA here in Toronto. Would have been roughly 30k/year after her workplace's contributions. Decided it's maybe best as a mid-career thing, not an early-career one. She had the money, but also enjoyed seeing commas in her bank account.

EDIT- thinking more about it, I wonder how high-quality the student base actually is as compared to simply who is desperate enough to buy a higher degree. Takes it to make it I guess.

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Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

When I was looking into UCLA biz school it was something like $50K/year for their fully employed MBA program

My work told me they would pay around $15K/year of it.  A nice gesture but I can't get over the idea of paying for student loans until I'm 40 years old.
I looked at Columbia biz and they wanted $200,000/year plus you had to support yourself abroad for a semester.
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Cybargs
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200k a year? wtf
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Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

200k a year? wtf
They want people from fortune 500 companies and wall street firms, companies with deep pockets who will just write the cost of their taxes.

Incidentally, I helped commission the building
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if you're pulling that much bank do you really need an mba lol
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Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

if you're pulling that much bank do you really need an mba lol
True, it's a networking/signaling thing I guess. I might go to Baruch one day, we'll see.
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Cybargs
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yeah thats what high end MBA's are usually for. an expensive degree to meet other rich people.
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Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

that's how really great ideas and inventions crop up.
That only really applies to STEM subjects though, what have the humanities produced in - I don't know - the last hundred years?
When the only subjects available were Literature, History and Alchemy then I can see they might have been a reasonable choice. But we're not in the 1500s now.

UCL, which is the biggest and most well-funded (not to mention prestigious) college of the university of london.
OK

Besides that I agree that commercialisation of universities has been a catastrophe, but who do you blame? The oh-so-pious academics who are 'only there for the research' seem to be driving their own salaries up - the money does have to come from somewhere.

Also, very well.

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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

that's how really great ideas and inventions crop up.
That only really applies to STEM subjects though, what have the humanities produced in - I don't know - the last hundred years?
When the only subjects available were Literature, History and Alchemy then I can see they might have been a reasonable choice. But we're not in the 1500s now.

UCL, which is the biggest and most well-funded (not to mention prestigious) college of the university of london.
OK

Besides that I agree that commercialisation of universities has been a catastrophe, but who do you blame? The oh-so-pious academics who are 'only there for the research' seem to be driving their own salaries up - the money does have to come from somewhere.

Also, very well.
actually dilbert most academic jobs and pay rises now are for the admin and management class. it's not the lecturers and 'talent' who have been amassing fortunes. and most recruitment and expansion in universities nowadays are non-academic postings, I.e. PR, marketing, 'brand' consultants etc. But by far the most egregious pay-rise and bonus culture goes to the vice chancellors and chancellors. they all draw a six figure salary and it's the same sort of 'status' culture as in banking. gotta have the biggest salary if your university is apparently prestigious. so it's a little puzzling to me that you're angry at the academics, who have invested a decade of their career into qualifications and could be making 2-3x as much money in the private sector. you're really pissed at that post-doc researcher taking £35k a year in his mid 30's? how much could a maths graduate with a single undergrad degree be making in the city by the time he's 35? lol. it's not the academics who are driving up the cost of university education. with their slow privatisation and marketisation, a whole bureaucrat-business class has risen up on the campuses like an ugly recrudescence. self-justifying with market logic, they mercilessly cut 'non performing' departments (which incidentally means things like the study of modern languages in English universities, your French and Italian and German depts, are soon to be a thing of the past) and spend the savings on flash new plate-glass, white-elephant building projects, to attract more paying students on their glossy prospectuses; and, of course, to hire yet more 'analysts' and 'brand strategists'. they're strip-mining the universities.

and humanities doesn't produce inventions or patentable technology, obviously, but the spirit of free inquiry was borne out of enlightenment ideals and has the same benefit for humanities and sciences. the idea is knowledge flourishes when it is disinterested. the 'product' of humanities thought is a humane education, people inculcated with certain civic values and instructed in how to be a citizen with certain responsibilities. that's always been the broad ethos of teaching undergrads the classical liberal arts – your rhetoric and awareness of history and greats and whatnot. the idea is it gives an ethical framework to all that science research (which is as important as ever in our current juncture, where technology is accelerating ahead ever faster into the realms of post-human adaptation, and we have literally no legal or ethical frameworks to comprehend its vast implications). basically the point is this: narrowly controlled research criteria produces agitprop politicised research. if a conservative government holds the funding pot and specifies its own hot topics, you lose a generation of inquiry to chasing ideological buzzwords. even a humanities cynic can see it has deleterious effects.

btw imperial isn't part of the UoL anymore and UCL is probably still generally regarded as more prestigious globally. for a start it has a much wider reach and impact. it's kind of like comparing Harvard and MIT.

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Ultrafunkula
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uziq wrote:

because i can give you a 100% chance of having that regret to keep you company.
This. This so very much. Was asked in 2005 to come and fill an application at Madison Square Garden. I was on a tour and started talking hockey and VIP hosting stuff with the guy walking us around and he asked if I'd like to work over there. Was single and willing at the time and I still chickened out. But hey, I love working as an IT monkey for a southern city in Finland right now. Bestest job ever, with all the perks (being taken away) and everything!

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Jay
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Ultrafunkula wrote:

uziq wrote:

because i can give you a 100% chance of having that regret to keep you company.
This. This so very much. Was asked in 2005 to come and fill an application at Madison Square Garden. I was on a tour and started talking hockey and VIP hosting stuff with the guy walking us around and he asked if I'd like to work over there. Was single and willing at the time and I still chickened out. But hey, I love working as an IT monkey for a southern city in Finland right now. Bestest job ever, with all the perks (being taken away) and everything!

You might have taken my friends job. No free tickets for me???? Fuck you!
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Ultrafunkula
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Jay wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:

uziq wrote:

because i can give you a 100% chance of having that regret to keep you company.
This. This so very much. Was asked in 2005 to come and fill an application at Madison Square Garden. I was on a tour and started talking hockey and VIP hosting stuff with the guy walking us around and he asked if I'd like to work over there. Was single and willing at the time and I still chickened out. But hey, I love working as an IT monkey for a southern city in Finland right now. Bestest job ever, with all the perks (being taken away) and everything!

You might have taken my friends job. No free tickets for me???? Fuck you!
Free tickets? How about we grab a beer next time I'm wearing my NYR jersey close by
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Ultrafunkula
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Next week celebrate in Finland! We're having our bigger lan party again. You wouldn't even be the oldest fart participating.
Jay
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Ultrafunkula wrote:

Jay wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:


This. This so very much. Was asked in 2005 to come and fill an application at Madison Square Garden. I was on a tour and started talking hockey and VIP hosting stuff with the guy walking us around and he asked if I'd like to work over there. Was single and willing at the time and I still chickened out. But hey, I love working as an IT monkey for a southern city in Finland right now. Bestest job ever, with all the perks (being taken away) and everything!

You might have taken my friends job. No free tickets for me???? Fuck you!
Free tickets? How about we grab a beer next time I'm wearing my NYR jersey close by
I work a half block from MSG
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-Frederick Bastiat
Ultrafunkula
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Jay wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:

Jay wrote:


You might have taken my friends job. No free tickets for me???? Fuck you!
Free tickets? How about we grab a beer next time I'm wearing my NYR jersey close by
I work a half block from MSG
I work 4111.41 miles from MSG
Jay
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Ultrafunkula wrote:

Jay wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:


Free tickets? How about we grab a beer next time I'm wearing my NYR jersey close by
I work a half block from MSG
I work 4111.41 miles from MSG
You should move closer
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Pocshy2.0
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Ultrafunkula wrote:

uziq wrote:

because i can give you a 100% chance of having that regret to keep you company.
This. This so very much. Was asked in 2005 to come and fill an application at Madison Square Garden. I was on a tour and started talking hockey and VIP hosting stuff with the guy walking us around and he asked if I'd like to work over there. Was single and willing at the time and I still chickened out. But hey, I love working as an IT monkey for a southern city in Finland right now. Bestest job ever, with all the perks (being taken away) and everything!

I mean, I understand that regret can spring up on you, but there's also no guarantee that if I do decide to take the degree that I won't instead regret that decision. The reason I've never lived life by the 'will I regret this later?' rule is because you can't test the null hypothesis. I'll simply never know which decision was better. Lemonade and lemons: make it, and shit, you know?
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I opened up a Dunkin Donuts rewards card. This is an exciting new chapter in my life.

Seriously though I spend exactly $4.90 every morning at DD every day getting an iced coffee and wake up wrap. The people there already know what I want when I enter. I am addicted to coffee now. There aren't any starbucks around me or my job which is good because I am not sure how to even order something at a starbucks.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I opened up a Dunkin Donuts rewards card. This is an exciting new chapter in my life.

Seriously though I spend exactly $4.90 every morning at DD every day getting an iced coffee and wake up wrap. The people there already know what I want when I enter. I am addicted to coffee now. There aren't any starbucks around me or my job which is good because I am not sure how to even order something at a starbucks.
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Pocshy2.0
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I opened up a Dunkin Donuts rewards card. This is an exciting new chapter in my life.

Seriously though I spend exactly $4.90 every morning at DD every day getting an iced coffee and wake up wrap. The people there already know what I want when I enter. I am addicted to coffee now. There aren't any starbucks around me or my job which is good because I am not sure how to even order something at a starbucks.
I really wish Timmie Hoe's up here in Canada had a rewards card. They'll never do it though. Market is cornered, customers already extremely loyal, nobody else has them. A man can dream.
SuperJail Warden
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That sucks dude. For DD rewards, you get 5 points for every dollar spent. 200 points and you get a free drink. You also get discounts on stuff as well as bonus points for buying whatever they are trying to sell more of that month. My iced coffee was $1.99 instead of $2.99 for using my rewards card.


God bless God's invisible hand of the free market.
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Mitch
16 more years
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Got my GED in March
Got accepted to local state college in April
Went to my first semester over the summer. Got 2 A's.
Into fall semester now, looking pretty good.

Job is going well, been told I am next in line for a promotion (although we'll see when I get to work today because I guess my last day there I screwed up pretty bad and sold the wrong floor model item because it was a big rush and I didn't pay close enough attention...)
15 more years! 15 more years!
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Hello. Still in upstate New York?
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