Oh. I thought fatherhood would make you pick up a more pragmatic political philosophy. You know a responsible one that provided solutions to social problems. Not one that their supporters admit that "there will never be a libertarian country!"Jay wrote:
No. If anything I feel more strongly libertarian. Why would I suddenly want a less free world for my son to live in?SuperJail Warden wrote:
Are you starting to question the social positions of libertarianism now that you have a kid?
I was replying to the other dumbasses more than you.Jay wrote:
I wasn't even making a jab at you.uziq wrote:
what is my one half-understood idea? i actually have an education on my resume and have published essays that are peer reviewed and evaluated by other third parties, unlike... almost everyone else here. I'd love to know what my 'half understood' state of ignorance consists of, that your eternal wisdom bests.Grasmaaier wrote:
inb4Uzique
bearing in mind jay used to post high-school level book reports in d&st and changed his entire political compass several times according to what Amazon bestseller he had just imbibed. the guy is named after a fucking ayn rand character – the most half-baked and idiotic, childish philosophy in the history of western ideas. and coincidentally the philosophy that was very fashionable on college campuses when jay was derping his way through technical college. but sure, of all the people here I espouse the 'half understood single idea'.
lol well said, says burnzz. the guy who took six decades to make it through community college with enough credits to graduate. the jealousy stinks and doesn't befit a man of your age and maturity. child.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/251111538271814/
Which is why I wasn't talking about you. Nice rant though.uziq wrote:
I was replying to the other dumbasses more than you.Jay wrote:
I wasn't even making a jab at you.uziq wrote:
what is my one half-understood idea? i actually have an education on my resume and have published essays that are peer reviewed and evaluated by other third parties, unlike... almost everyone else here. I'd love to know what my 'half understood' state of ignorance consists of, that your eternal wisdom bests.
bearing in mind jay used to post high-school level book reports in d&st and changed his entire political compass several times according to what Amazon bestseller he had just imbibed. the guy is named after a fucking ayn rand character – the most half-baked and idiotic, childish philosophy in the history of western ideas. and coincidentally the philosophy that was very fashionable on college campuses when jay was derping his way through technical college. but sure, of all the people here I espouse the 'half understood single idea'.
lol well said, says burnzz. the guy who took six decades to make it through community college with enough credits to graduate. the jealousy stinks and doesn't befit a man of your age and maturity. child.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/251111538271814/
say what you want about me, I don't think I've really espoused or hammered on a single 'idea' or ideology since I've been here.
Solutions to social issues? Like being pro equality? Libertarians are pretty big on gay rights, racial equality and the like, they just don't agree with using the force of the state to achieve their goals. Rather than recognizing gay marriage at the state level they question why marriage requires state licensure in the first place. But what about all the state benefits for married people? Why are married people being given special treatment. Frankly, if you actually understood the philosophy rather than just accepting the snide dismissals of your favorite progressive writers you'd find there's much more to like than detest. But hey, we're almost done here and you can go back to shouting into a vacuum shortly.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Oh. I thought fatherhood would make you pick up a more pragmatic political philosophy. You know a responsible one that provided solutions to social problems. Not one that their supporters admit that "there will never be a libertarian country!"Jay wrote:
No. If anything I feel more strongly libertarian. Why would I suddenly want a less free world for my son to live in?SuperJail Warden wrote:
Are you starting to question the social positions of libertarianism now that you have a kid?
Jay wrote:
Solutions to social issues? Like being pro equality? Libertarians are pretty big on gay rights, racial equality and the like, they just don't agree with using the force of the state to achieve their goals. Rather than recognizing gay marriage at the state level they question why marriage requires state licensure in the first place. But what about all the state benefits for married people? Why are married people being given special treatment. Frankly, if you actually understood the philosophy rather than just accepting the snide dismissals of your favorite progressive writers you'd find there's much more to like than detest. But hey, we're almost done here and you can go back to shouting into a vacuum shortly.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Oh. I thought fatherhood would make you pick up a more pragmatic political philosophy. You know a responsible one that provided solutions to social problems. Not one that their supporters admit that "there will never be a libertarian country!"Jay wrote:
No. If anything I feel more strongly libertarian. Why would I suddenly want a less free world for my son to live in?
Which is the point of the state. Which is why libertarianism isn't a useful governing ideology. It doesn't have practical solutions to anything.they just don't agree with using the force of the state to achieve their goals.
Walmart agrees with this postpirana6 wrote:
People as a whole a very very very stupid.
Because its stupid and doesn't work?Jay wrote:
No. If anything I feel more strongly libertarian. Why would I suddenly want a less free world for my son to live in?SuperJail Warden wrote:
Are you starting to question the social positions of libertarianism now that you have a kid?
I disagree. People do dumb things, sure, but we get by without having our hand held all day don't we? Don't confuse disagreeing with people with doubting their intelligence. I know my own life and how to deal with my own shit way better than any technocrat ever could. And... I have a vested interest in my own success, whereas they would give zero fucks.pirana6 wrote:
libertarian (and most small-government ideas) heavily rely on the fact that people, as a whole, are generally not stupid.
People as a whole a very very very stupid.
Please stop what, dipshit? Telling people they aren't stupid? That they don't need their "betters" to make their decisions for them? Eat one of your own bullets you tory jackass.Dilbert_X wrote:
America is anything but a Libertarian country, you have never experienced 'Libertarianism', or social democracy for that matter, please stop now.
I don't think you're stupid jay, but I also don't think that people singularly are THAT stupid. But I think when you group them together to make laws - as the government often does - they are. One person does not need their hand held, 10 million people put together do.Jay wrote:
I disagree. People do dumb things, sure, but we get by without having our hand held all day don't we? Don't confuse disagreeing with people with doubting their intelligence. I know my own life and how to deal with my own shit way better than any technocrat ever could. And... I have a vested interest in my own success, whereas they would give zero fucks.pirana6 wrote:
libertarian (and most small-government ideas) heavily rely on the fact that people, as a whole, are generally not stupid.
People as a whole a very very very stupid.
So you end up with our current system where politicians write terrible laws like the revenge porn one in Arizona that was overturned yesterday bease it was so broad it would've meant fines for booksellers selling art books with nudes in them. Or prohibition. Or the war on drugs. Or any of the fifty wars we've fought in the past 100 years. Or public housing projects that destroy neighborhoods and concentrate poverty. Or the PATRIOT act.pirana6 wrote:
I don't think you're stupid jay, but I also don't think that people singularly are THAT stupid. But I think when you group them together to make laws - as the government often does - they are. One person does not need their hand held, 10 million people put together do.Jay wrote:
I disagree. People do dumb things, sure, but we get by without having our hand held all day don't we? Don't confuse disagreeing with people with doubting their intelligence. I know my own life and how to deal with my own shit way better than any technocrat ever could. And... I have a vested interest in my own success, whereas they would give zero fucks.pirana6 wrote:
libertarian (and most small-government ideas) heavily rely on the fact that people, as a whole, are generally not stupid.
People as a whole a very very very stupid.
I was simply in anticipation of your rant on Jay (and possibly Hegel)uziq wrote:
what is my one half-understood idea? i actually have an education on my resume and have published essays that are peer reviewed and evaluated by other third parties, unlike... almost everyone else here. I'd love to know what my 'half understood' state of ignorance consists of, that your eternal wisdom bests.Grasmaaier wrote:
inb4UziqueJay wrote:
Lots and lots and lots of it. Most of it is just people regurgitating the one half-understood idea they remember from college and mocking everyone who challenges them. My friend invited me to an anarcho-capitalist Facebook group and the mental hoops these people jump through to reconcile all their half-asset beliefs would drive a normal person insane.
bearing in mind jay used to post high-school level book reports in d&st and changed his entire political compass several times according to what Amazon bestseller he had just imbibed. the guy is named after a fucking ayn rand character – the most half-baked and idiotic, childish philosophy in the history of western ideas. and coincidentally the philosophy that was very fashionable on college campuses when jay was derping his way through technical college. but sure, of all the people here I espouse the 'half understood single idea'.
lol well said, says burnzz. the guy who took six decades to make it through community college with enough credits to graduate. the jealousy stinks and doesn't befit a man of your age and maturity. child.
worthy post to sum up this thread. make the man an admin.FatherTed wrote:
just made another poop.
