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RTHKI wrote:

so how about those cops shooting the knife wielding guy in stl
arent these situations the reasons they have tasers
no you would not use tasers in large crowds
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jsnipy wrote:

RTHKI wrote:

so how about those cops shooting the knife wielding guy in stl
arent these situations the reasons they have tasers
no you would not use tasers in large crowds
that's why you got batons and shields. except ferguson cops like to be spread out and have AR15s pointing at people tell them theyd kill them.
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crowds?
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Officer Go Fuck Yourself tells protester "I'll fucking kill you"



I can't tell if the person holding the camera is black, in which case the officer's behaviour would perfectly understandable.
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He was forced to resign
[Video]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b5d_1409335986[/video]
Hate crime
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The DoJ investigation cleared the officer of wrongdoing but found that there was a culture of discrimination and bias in the police department and government against blacks. Officers are now being fired and forced to resign. The government is also considering dissolving the police department.




This investigation and the DoJ report would have never had happened if the people there didn't riot, loot, and burn down buildings. So it wasn't pointless. Rioting works. Violence works. Peaceful protesting shouldn't be considered the only thing that is acceptable when fighting power structures.
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miss kent state
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13rin wrote:

miss kent state
this guy openly calling for the national guard to come in and shoot protesters.   Never change, asshole
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https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83189000/jpg/_83189760_026693363-1.jpg

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Only Mr Brelo was charged because prosecutors said the pair in the car were no longer a threat when he climbed on to the bonnet of their car and fired 15 shots through the windscreen in 7.4 seconds.

But the judge said that as other officers had fired in a 137-shot barrage, he could not rule beyond reasonable doubt that Mr Brelo was responsible for the deaths.
LOL OK
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seems proportionate.

if you're aiming to murder someone and turn them into swiss cheese for the funeral reception
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The cops thought they were shooting at them because their shitty car backfired
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Do you know what the worst part of this is?

The police could make a horrible mistake and this could happen to a white person.
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Recently released video from police body cameras shows how an officer in Fredericksburg, Virginia used a Taser and pepper-sprayed a man who was suffering from a medical emergency on May 4. Fredericksburg police officer Shaun Jergens resigned on May 14 although he insists he did nothing wrong. Jergens was one of three officers who responded to calls of a hit and run driver going the wrong way down a street. David Washington, 34, was driving a Hyundai that hit a jeep before stopping in the middle of an intersection, reports WTOP. When the officers arrive they demand Washington put his hands up but the driver is nearly motionless and does not say anything. “Get out of the car or I’m going to fucking smoke you,” Jurgens says at one point. Jurgens then draws his Taser before using a huge amount of pepper spray on Washington’s face.

The way in which Washington barely reacted to such a large amount of pepper spray should have maybe been a hint that something was wrong. But another officer proceeds to yank Washington to the pavement and at that point he can be heard moaning. “I can’t breathe,” he says before telling the officers he has been sick for days and doesn’t know what’s wrong. He was later taken to the hospital and sources tell the Fredericksburg Free-Lance Star that Washington “had a massive stroke and was treated in the intensive care unit.” Charges have been filed against Washington for hit and run, reckless driving and driving on a revoked license.
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wow that's a lot of pepper spray.

tragic story, poor guy
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Yes, how will that brave policeman find another job?
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Jay
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I love body cameras. I don't know why you would fire this guy. Yes, the force was unnecessary, but at least he didn't shoot him. Train him to be less of a scared pussy, that's all.
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your boy in blue just emptied a whole canister of pepper spray into the face of a guy who was having a stroke - that's someone in a medical emergency who needs help not punishment.

why should he keep his job again? why are the standards of acceptable policing so low in the US?

these guys should be upholders of the law not jumpy nervous faggots with licenses to maim and kill.

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Jay
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uziq wrote:

your boy in blue just emptied a whole canister of pepper spray into the face of a guy who was having a stroke - that's someone in a medical emergency who needs help not punishment.

why should he keep his job again? why are the standards of acceptable policing so low in the US?

these guys should be upholders of the law not jumpy nervous faggots with licenses to maim and kill.
Because he didn't know he was having a medical emergency. Look, I'm not saying what he did was correct. He should've walked up to the guy and talked to him like a normal human being instead of acting like he was about to get shot and hiding behind his car.

I'm simply contrasting it against all the shootings that have taken place lately. Every week we see a new video of a cop shooting down another unarmed person. This could've easily gone that way. Pepper spray is a temporary pain. A gunshot wound is rather permanent.

Basically, my argument is that I'd rather see cops overuse pepper spray and underuse their firearms. Pepper spray is just the lesser evil.
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at least they know what pepper spray feels like eh
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it's definitely excessive force.  and the guy didn't get fired - he resigned.
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and didnt feel like he did anything wrong
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Jay
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RTHKI wrote:

at least they know what pepper spray feels like eh
Hurts like hell man
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i was at a house party upstairs with the door shut when someone sprayed pepper spray downstairs.  It cleared the whole house out in less than 5 minutes.  Fuck pepper spray.
Jay
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My mom is a postal worker and i found a can of pepper spray on top of the fridge when I was around twelve years old. I pushed the big orange button on top and shot myself right in the eyes.
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Jay wrote:

uziq wrote:

your boy in blue just emptied a whole canister of pepper spray into the face of a guy who was having a stroke - that's someone in a medical emergency who needs help not punishment.

why should he keep his job again? why are the standards of acceptable policing so low in the US?

these guys should be upholders of the law not jumpy nervous faggots with licenses to maim and kill.
Because he didn't know he was having a medical emergency. Look, I'm not saying what he did was correct. He should've walked up to the guy and talked to him like a normal human being instead of acting like he was about to get shot and hiding behind his car.

I'm simply contrasting it against all the shootings that have taken place lately. Every week we see a new video of a cop shooting down another unarmed person. This could've easily gone that way. Pepper spray is a temporary pain. A gunshot wound is rather permanent.

Basically, my argument is that I'd rather see cops overuse pepper spray and underuse their firearms. Pepper spray is just the lesser evil.
i think the more general problem here is the default, combative stance between law enforcement and the public. being called out to the scene of a driver reported as behaving erratically shouldn't automatically equal a guns-drawn, time to smoke someone scenario. maybe he's in distress?

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