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2015-02-02 22:38:19

#201

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6927

SuperJail Warden wrote:
For the third time, I don't care about the real estate market. How much more money a slumlord makes isn't my issue. In the poorest communities, the people who own property are often a small subset of the larger community. How many people own property around a public housing unit compared to the amount of people who live in the unit?

Not everywhere in the world is new york numbnuts.

70% of sydneysiders own their own homes. So yeah, I'd say 70% of people are laughing their way to the bank. If you're relying on public housing that's kinda your own problem. Beggars can't be choosers. Recently the gov sold off the a public housing apartment in the middle of sydney since people were paying 50 dollars a week in rent when the value of those apartments are at least 700+ a week in rent.

Property values going up is good for cities since it allows them to make more money from property taxes, fund better local schools, parks etc. If you're living in a city that's become too expensive to live well tough titties, make lifestyle changes, move to a different city etc.

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2015-02-02 23:03:51

#202

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3930

And not everywhere in the world is Sydney Australia.

U.S. urban issues are entirely different than that in Australia. Everything is different from culture to city planning.

What you don't seem to understand is : I'm concerned about what to do with the actual people. For the fourth time, I don't care about the city's revenue or tax projections. I don't care about a new park being built. I care about what happens to the people being relocated. The city does great when undesirable people are replaced with yuppies from out of town but those people don't just stop existing. They have to go somewhere and do something.

An article in the Atlantic wrote about suburban poverty's rise due to gentrification in the inner cities. Middle class neighborhoods are being destroyed by incoming displaced poor. Gentrification is just spreading urban misery onto everyone else.

"More people with low incomes now live outside of cities, and some areas are ill-equipped to deal with the influx of the poor."
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arc … ty/384259/

also

"The Frightening Growth of Suburban Slums"
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/201 … rated.html

"How the Suburbs Got Poor"
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ … ilies.html

I still haven't gotten a response as to what to do with the displaced poor.

So please type out a response to me that doesn't have anything to do about property owners making money or new parks being built. Because I don't give a shit about that.

2015-02-02 23:34:07

#203

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6927

What to do with the poor? move them elsewhere. Can't afford to live somewhere, go somewhere else. Welcome to life.

2015-02-02 23:51:21

#204

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3930

It seems like an easy solution until some suburbs start having home invasions. But it is okay. A developer made a ton of money someplace.

2015-02-03 01:54:19

#205

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6927

SuperJail Warden wrote:
It seems like an easy solution until some suburbs start having home invasions. But it is okay. A developer made a ton of money someplace.

wow how classist are you. so when poor people move out they start robbing people? what the shit.

2015-02-03 03:23:49

#206

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6948|Oxferd Ohire

i think you mean continue robbing people

2015-02-03 03:56:50

#207

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6316|eXtreme to the maX

You're both wrong, the change is they start robbing people besides each other.

Fuck Israel

2015-02-03 04:18:17

#208

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6927

Dilbert_X wrote:
You're both wrong, the change is they start robbing people besides each other.

thanks obama.

2015-02-03 05:58:41

#209

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5569|London, England

Renters are transient anyway. They tend to move every few years when their rent is raised or they find a new job. It's actually a really big advantage renters have over owners. If I got a new job in another city I have to put my house on the market and potentially take a loss.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-02-03 11:09:32

#210

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3930

I am talking about people in public housing and folks stuck in generational poverty. Not young professional renters.

2015-02-03 15:56:28

#211

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6927

SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am talking about people in public housing and folks stuck in generational poverty. Not young professional renters.

Unless the gov decides to sell off assets, their cost of living isn't exactly going up nor are they going to move.

2015-02-03 18:38:01

#212

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5569|London, England

SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am talking about people in public housing and folks stuck in generational poverty. Not young professional renters.

By spreading poverty out they gain new opportunities. As I said, when you concentrate poverty you create economic dead zones in the surrounding area. No one wants to start a business next to projects because there's no money and high crime. No businesses, no jobs, no way out. By spreading it out, they'll be able to find a job and hopefully some stability.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-02-03 18:39:26

#213

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3930

Cybargs wrote:
SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am talking about people in public housing and folks stuck in generational poverty. Not young professional renters.
Unless the gov decides to sell off assets, their cost of living isn't exactly going up nor are they going to move.

Why do you keep responding if you are so woefully ignorant of the situation here in the U.S.?

Philadelphia tore down 21. Chicago leveled 79. Baltimore took down 21 as well, and when 6 of them came down in one day in 1995, it threw a parade.

Since the 1990s, public housing high-rise buildings have come tumbling down by the dozens across the country as cities replace them with smaller suburban-style homes that do not carry the stigma of looming urban despair and poverty.

New York City has long been the great exception, and red-brick towers still dominate the skyline from the Lower East Side to East Harlem, from Mott Haven, in the Bronx, to Bushwick, Brooklyn. But now, for the first time in its 75-year history, the New York City Housing Authority wants to knock down an entire high-rise complex, Prospect Plaza in Brooklyn — a move that has surprised and angered a number of former tenants and advocates for low-income housing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/06/nyreg … l&_r=0

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2015-02-03 19:07:28

#214

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6927

Did you not read what I said? UNLESS GOV SELLS OFF PUBLIC HOUSING ASSETS SHIT DONT CHANGE.

It's easier to spread out poverty as well, less dead zone.

public housing isn't exactly a good solution, you're better off subsidizing people's housing by giving them rental assistance, but knowing it's america everyone hates welfare.

2015-02-03 19:16:30

#215

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3930

Jay wrote:
SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am talking about people in public housing and folks stuck in generational poverty. Not young professional renters.
By spreading poverty out they gain new opportunities. As I said, when you concentrate poverty you create economic dead zones in the surrounding area. No one wants to start a business next to projects because there's no money and high crime. No businesses, no jobs, no way out. By spreading it out, they'll be able to find a job and hopefully some stability.

I'm sure under your theory you will be the first person to volunteer to have section 8 housing down the block from your home. You will be among the NIMBY crowd as soon as Tyrone and Marcus try to teach your son basketball and introduce him to rap music. I wouldn't blame you either.

The decline in homicides nationally has overshadowed a countertrend: rising murders in the suburbs, the communities that ring cities and have long been promoted as havens from violent crime. U.S. homicides fell sharply from 2001 to 2010, including a 16.7% drop in big cities, according to a federal Bureau of Justice Statistics study of the most recent, reported data. That is because of a host of factors, including better medical treatment for victims of violent injury and aggressive police measures in megacities like New York and Los Angeles.

But homicides rose 16.9% in suburbs during the same period, according to the BJS. This came during a time when populations in both large cities and suburbs grew substantially.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014241 … 3179427496
"Crime Migrates to Suburbs"

2015-02-04 10:10:34

#216

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5569|London, England

SuperJail Warden wrote:
Jay wrote:
SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am talking about people in public housing and folks stuck in generational poverty. Not young professional renters.
By spreading poverty out they gain new opportunities. As I said, when you concentrate poverty you create economic dead zones in the surrounding area. No one wants to start a business next to projects because there's no money and high crime. No businesses, no jobs, no way out. By spreading it out, they'll be able to find a job and hopefully some stability.
I'm sure under your theory you will be the first person to volunteer to have section 8 housing down the block from your home. You will be among the NIMBY crowd as soon as Tyrone and Marcus try to teach your son basketball and introduce him to rap music. I wouldn't blame you either.
The decline in homicides nationally has overshadowed a countertrend: rising murders in the suburbs, the communities that ring cities and have long been promoted as havens from violent crime. U.S. homicides fell sharply from 2001 to 2010, including a 16.7% drop in big cities, according to a federal Bureau of Justice Statistics study of the most recent, reported data. That is because of a host of factors, including better medical treatment for victims of violent injury and aggressive police measures in megacities like New York and Los Angeles.

But homicides rose 16.9% in suburbs during the same period, according to the BJS. This came during a time when populations in both large cities and suburbs grew substantially.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014241 … 3179427496
"Crime Migrates to Suburbs"

The school district I bought in is combined with another school district from the town to the south. The town I live in is very nice and the downtown area draws in wealthy people from the surrounding area to shop and eat. The town to the south is basically Little El Salvador. They bus in kids from the other town in order to spread them out.

I plan on sending my son to public school for at least elementary school. Depending on how bad the school district ends up being, he could be going to private school from then on. We'll see. I've heard good things and bad things.

As for crime, well, there's much juicier targets than my house only a block away. Not worried.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-02-04 13:02:53

#217

Pocshy2.0: Member; +23|3581

Hey Jay, did you sell that BP stock in time?

2015-02-04 15:24:47

#218

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5569|London, England

Pocshy2.0 wrote:
Hey Jay, did you sell that BP stock in time?

Yeah a long time ago. Buying again now though, gas won't stay this cheap for very long.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2015-02-06 01:37:40

#219

uziq: Member; +492|3663

don't you guys have party whips over there?

2015-02-06 01:55:15

#220

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6316|eXtreme to the maX

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Fuck Israel

2015-02-06 02:34:25

#221

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6927

Dilbert_X wrote:

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2015-02-06 06:44:53

#222

uziq: Member; +492|3663

wrong thread, browsing on mobile. I meant the people in political parties who keep the ranks in line so you're not having leadership bids every 3 months.

2015-02-06 11:29:29

#223

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3930

Our Republican house majority whip gave a speech in front of a Nazi group. Not sure why he still has a job.

2015-02-06 12:23:44

#224

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6948|Oxferd Ohire

should i vote for boner in 2016

2015-02-06 12:28:57

#225

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6792|SE London

Cybargs wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:

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