Poll

European society is superior to US society. Do you agree?

Yes, what a stupid question!56%56% - 94
No, keep widening that gap between rich and poor!43%43% - 73
Total: 167
yerded
Bertinator
+255|6606|Westminster, California
Oh yeah give us you 10-18% unemployement. Disarm us too.
Crooked teeth and goats liver pie.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

stupidest poll ever
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6597|space command ur anus

lowing wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

lowing wrote:


LOL, yup and we did in just over a year something that the whole continent couldn't do in 5..Amazing aren't we??
I'm not even going to mention how the sovietunion won the war and NOT the Americans.
While you are NOT mentioning that, please don't forget to NOT mention, that the world was at war with Japan as well.
i was referring to the war in europe not in the pacific.
but hey the soviets started to invade there as well after they were finished withe the Germans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_August_Storm
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6621|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

While you are NOT mentioning that, please don't forget to NOT mention, that the world was at war with Japan as well.
Actually, really only Australia and America were.  Japan attempted to get on the USSR's good side towards the end by pointing out that they remained nuetral, the French didn't fight them, nor did Africa and the Middle East.  Britain fought them by proxy, but really didn't care too much.  So unless you define world as "North America and Asia", they weren't fighting Japan.
The only things that made it an exclusive fight was,

1. the proximity of the battles, the US had a coasts and islands in which to operate naval operations.

2. We didn't need the help. Since the turning point in the pacific was Midway..june of '42

If the invasion of Japan was to take place I would lay money on the assumption that ALL the allies would have taken part.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6621|USA

herrr_smity wrote:

lowing wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

I'm not even going to mention how the sovietunion won the war and NOT the Americans.
While you are NOT mentioning that, please don't forget to NOT mention, that the world was at war with Japan as well.
i was referring to the war in europe not in the pacific.
but hey the soviets started to invade there as well after they were finished withe the Germans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_August_Storm
It is the same war. thats why it is call WW2, and not the Japan war or the Europe War
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6597|space command ur anus
i think the term is theaters of war
JimKong
Member
+31|6612|Ohio

mikkel wrote:

JimKong wrote:

mikkel wrote:

And if it wasn't for Europe, you would all be speaking Japanese and German.
No, if it wasn't America and programs like the AVG and Lend-Lease, Europe (which was basically Britiain) would have fallen to the Nazis.
Uh, if the US would have fallen to the Nazis, I think it's implied that Europe would, too.
What are you talking about? Europe was borderline dead with Britian holding on by a thread. Even if Germany won the Battle of Britian, I doubt they had the the shipping and logistics to overrun the island shortly after. Even if they made the America Bomber, it would have been a long ass time if, IF, they ever sat foot on US soil. Yes, they had U-Boats in the Potomac and plans to blow up ship yards with agents inserted by subs, but I doubt they could have taken us due to our geographical location and manufacturing capabilities. How close were they to developing a deliverable A-Bomb? That's speculative.

Now it would have been really interesting if Hitler waited until after the winter to attack the Soviet Union and actually focused on military targets pre-B.O.B. Or if he didn't take a sleeping pill on June 6th.

Last edited by JimKong (2006-05-27 11:35:14)

JimKong
Member
+31|6612|Ohio

herrr_smity wrote:

lowing wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

I'm not even going to mention how the sovietunion won the war and NOT the Americans.
While you are NOT mentioning that, please don't forget to NOT mention, that the world was at war with Japan as well.
i was referring to the war in europe not in the pacific.
but hey the soviets started to invade there as well after they were finished withe the Germans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_August_Storm
Uh, no. The Soviet Union came in after we kicked Japan's ass out of the Pacific. The only thing that saved the Soviets was the winter of '41. We dropped the bombs just so Japan would surrender before it was occupied by the Red Army (since we knew the Soviets would be our enemy after the war).

"The invasion began on August 8, 1945, precisely three months after the German surrender on May 8. Notably, it began between the droppings of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima (August 6) and Nagasaki (August 9). Japan's decision to surrender was made before the scale of the Soviet attack on Manchuria, Sakhalin Island, and the Kuril Islands was known,"
Possum61
Member
+9|6718|Philly PA USA

skywalker107 wrote:

Dude, That is a loaded Question but as being an American I have to say they both have positives and negatives.
Yep Same here   
millhous
Member
+39|6606|OREEGONE, USA
Do some actual research before you start a mindless flame war thread like this.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|6813|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Oh yea, one more:

Use the god damn SI system!
JimKong
Member
+31|6612|Ohio
Let's just settle this by saying Japan is the best country in the world because of it's porn. Followed closely by Germany.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|6813|Reykjavík, Iceland.

JimKong wrote:

Let's just settle this by saying Japan is the best country in the world because of it's porn. Followed closely by Germany.
Prostitution is legal in Germany. Hey! Football anyone?
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|6708|The Hague, Netherlands

PBAsydney wrote:

JimKong wrote:

Let's just settle this by saying Japan is the best country in the world because of it's porn. Followed closely by Germany.
Prostitution is legal in Germany. Hey! Football anyone?
Anyone wanna smoke some pot legally ? lol
https://bf3s.com/sigs/36eac2cb6af70a43508fd8d1c93d3201f4e23435.png
JimKong
Member
+31|6612|Ohio
Do they really eat your shizer?
yerded
Bertinator
+255|6606|Westminster, California

JimKong wrote:

Do they really eat your shizer?
click me if you hate America!
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|6655|Hell's prison
Lets end this topic easily, its all about POV.  STALEMATE!!!!  No one can win this.
eusgen
Nugget
+402|6762|Jupiter

King_County_Downy wrote:

Eat poo.
Yes, munch down on it... smell it as the wetness of it smears on your face and acumulates in your nose where you will smell if for hours.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6616

Horseman 77 wrote:

He seems to think Europe is one big country.
lol, aprently so. It is about the same size though.

Oh and I null voted. Create a real poll and maybe I'll vote.
Cheddarmuff
Member
+21|6622
People need to relax....all this I am better than you are stuff is like 3rd grade.
mikkel
Member
+383|6571

JimKong wrote:

mikkel wrote:

JimKong wrote:


No, if it wasn't America and programs like the AVG and Lend-Lease, Europe (which was basically Britiain) would have fallen to the Nazis.
Uh, if the US would have fallen to the Nazis, I think it's implied that Europe would, too.
What are you talking about? Europe was borderline dead with Britian holding on by a thread. Even if Germany won the Battle of Britian, I doubt they had the the shipping and logistics to overrun the island shortly after. Even if they made the America Bomber, it would have been a long ass time if, IF, they ever sat foot on US soil. Yes, they had U-Boats in the Potomac and plans to blow up ship yards with agents inserted by subs, but I doubt they could have taken us due to our geographical location and manufacturing capabilities. How close were they to developing a deliverable A-Bomb? That's speculative.

Now it would have been really interesting if Hitler waited until after the winter to attack the Soviet Union and actually focused on military targets pre-B.O.B. Or if he didn't take a sleeping pill on June 6th.
More recent reports actually indicate that they were alarmingly close, and that the loss of their heavy water supply was instrumental in the failure of their pursuits. No-one can ever really be sure what would have happened, but I think it's safe to say that Europe probably couldn't have done it without Russia and the US, Russia probably couldn't have done it without Europe and the US, and the US probably couldn't have done it without Europe and Russia.
Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6679|Sweden
You can't compare all the countries in Europe with eachother. Let's start with Scandinavia, UK, Germany and BeNeLux, the by far most civilized countries in europe. All other countries should belong to asia or something, cuz they aint got shit. France is nothing but an agricultural dump, were old men still harvest fields using goats, and none of them speaks any english. Spain is even worse with its awful humour and even more goating. Don't even mention Italy, with shit houses that haven't been replaced in like 300 years. Dont even think about all of eastern europe, they still live in their dull ´60s apartments and the roads are all bumpy 'n' shit. THEY NEVER FIX THEM! This is pretty much were europe ends. You guys over there in the US should thank Scandinavia, UK, Germany and benelux for coming to your country. Imagine if there were only italians and russians in North America. It would end up like some banana republic. Im not a rascist no, but i still think that people from the north are better "made" and they can cope in all kinds of situations, compared to pretty much all of asia and africa and southern america. Statistics dont lie....

Last edited by Sh1fty2k5 (2006-05-28 03:06:27)

<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6671|New York

CameronPoe wrote:

Europe rewards hard work but makes sure the vast majority of its citizens don't get left behind. In Europe we generally work to live, not live to work.
In USA you can go from successful to destitute in the bat of an eyelid. In USA the bottom line is the dollar - life can take a back seat.

Which system do you prefer?
Yup and france is a socialist country, and the rest are bordering on it also. And if money wasnt the force that drives everyone, why was the euro created? Probably so more european countries could have control over Richer countries assets.

Another problem is, because of all the worlds bitching, we end up spending trillions a year taking care of the rest of the worlds destitute, leaving our own lacking. WOW were such a bad country, shame on us for our giving nature. every time a country is in need, were the first up to bat for them.

Fuck you Anti American Asshats. Turns my stomach when opinions are only formed from Bias european reporters and news agencies!
ShEpArD_oF_rOt
Member
+16|6536|Illinois
I don't really see how you can compare a whole continent to one country. I'm no rocket scientist but I'm pretty sure Eastern Europe isn't such a great place to live.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|6813|Reykjavík, Iceland.

ShEpArD_oF_rOt wrote:

I don't really see how you can compare a whole continent to one country. I'm no rocket scientist but I'm pretty sure Eastern Europe isn't such a great place to live.
The women sure are fine there...and cheap *cough*.
ShEpArD_oF_rOt
Member
+16|6536|Illinois

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Im not a rascist no, but i still think that people from the north are better "made" and they can cope in all kinds of situations, compared to pretty much all of asia and africa and southern america. Statistics dont lie....
I'm not a racist, but I've been known to make totally racist comments from time to time........

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