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Labor a cereal offender on childcare rebate freeze

They still haven't changed the title of that...

you are really saying that australia is more culturally diverse and racially tolerant than europe, because you take more refugees on an annual basis now than the UK currently does? rofl. ahahahahahhaa. numbers do not constitute a qualitative attitude, i am sorry. there is no way you can argue that australians are more accepting of a racial and cultural plurality than your average 'welcome to multicultural uk' brit. no chance. you yourself here argue til you're blue in the face against refugees, against racially inferior blacks, against useless foreigners, etc. it just doesn't add up. keep clinging to a number, though. i already told you it is meaningless. australia is a lot fucking bigger and emptier than europe. france and the uk have taken several generations of refugees and emigres since the 1950's. doesn't really say the country is a closed-border xenophobic monoculture, because our current quota is lower than yours. wow i cannot believe this sort of shit has to be pointed out. you are really this dense, aren't you?

also you just called me a 'self-interested' person for voting Labour in the other thread. 2 minutes later you write a post calling me a 'Tory'. uuuuuuh, anybody home? pointless ranting. make fucking sense.

Last edited by Uzique The Lesser (2013-07-29 04:39:51)

i think i'll get a better deal, how? by having my inheritance taxed away from me? rofl. i've already specifically outlined the policy-based reasons why i vote labour. none of which has anything to do with my personal circumstances-- unless you count enjoying a walk in the free, public wood as being 'self-interest'.

yes, i vote in local elections for the party that will serve my local council and area best. mindblowing concept. how exactly do you vote that is so altruistic and not at all concerned with what concerns you, as a private citizen? pray tell. rofl.

also out of all the UK parties, labour are the ones most likely to make university tuition free. period.

and lol, like anyone's single vote in the current western system can affect 'global' matters. how many people protested against the war again? how many students rioted in london over tuition fee changes? national and global politics are not run by the voting class. i'm sure your vote in the australian national election is really going to determine your nation's trade relations with china.

Last edited by Uzique The Lesser (2013-07-29 05:58:06)

britain takes on 500,000+ immigrants a year. we're a country of nearly 65 million, and rapidly growing. dilbert thinks australia is more racially inclusive because you take more refugee-status people, fleeing from war or natural disaster. you're a country of 20 million and you shit bricks at the thought of the foreign contingent rising in any major way. britain (and the ex-colonial european powers) have been accommodating huge windrushes of immigrants and 'other' cultures since 1950. i just don't really know what dilber'ts point is. yes, you take more political refugees. you are a tiny country that has much room to grow. i don't really see that as conclusive evidence that you are a more 'racially tolerant' society. race and immigration issues completely dominate your politics. your culture is extremely white and reactionary. look at the distribution of your politics on a worldwide-relative spectrum.

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

britain takes on 500,000+ immigrants a year. we're a country of nearly 65 million, and rapidly growing. dilbert thinks australia is more racially inclusive because you take more refugee-status people, fleeing from war or natural disaster. you're a country of 20 million and you shit bricks at the thought of the foreign contingent rising in any major way. britain (and the ex-colonial european powers) have been accommodating huge windrushes of immigrants and 'other' cultures since 1950. i just don't really know what dilber'ts point is. yes, you take more political refugees. you are a tiny country that has much room to grow. i don't really see that as conclusive evidence that you are a more 'racially tolerant' society. race and immigration issues completely dominate your politics. your culture is extremely white and reactionary. look at the distribution of your politics on a worldwide-relative spectrum.

Net migrants per 1000 population.
Australia     5.93
United Kingdom     2.59

Jaekus wrote:

I wouldn't argue we are more or less racially tolerant, I see it as an equal footing. It actually baffles me why it dominates our politics like it does when there are much more important issues than whether we should let in a few thousand asylum seekers who arrive by boat. I think it all started with the Children Overboard fiasco when Howard was PM and somehow the LNP have turned what was blood on their hands into some sort of political leverage.

Because those arriving by boats are taking places of those in refugee camps. Its rewarding the 'selfish' queue jumpers.

1. We neither have the infrastructure, jobs nor capital resources for mass migration
2. Migrants are all well and good when they can bring appropriate level of skills and education. We are not a low skilled manufacturing economy and it is not economically feasible to become one.
3. Australia is by far the driest continent on earth with roughly 70% being dessert or arid planes with no consistent water source.
4. As such 90% of the population in congregated in urban areas, mostly running down the south eastern coast.
5. Migrants are not moving here to take advantage of our huge unpopulated land but to live in the densely populated urban cities.
6. Growth is good, just like inflation, but just like hyperinflation too much growth just leads to problems.

don't forget that australia is running out of water! and your relatively brand-new cities are all crumbling under the weight!

hmm wonder how britain with its centuries-old cities and green-belt no-planning-permission zones manages to cope under the infrastructural weight of those 500,000 yearly immigrants. menk idiots left right and centre in immigration discussions.

great rebuff 10/10. the UK can handle half a million immigrants a year when all of our infrastructure is centuries old and when we are one of the most densely populated nations on earth, yet brand-spanking-new australia with a booming economy has to whine about 100k a year. lol. okay. tell me some more about "reality', mr. scared shitless irrational xenophobe.

DrunkFace wrote:

1. We neither have the infrastructure, jobs nor capital resources for mass migration
2. Migrants are all well and good when they can bring appropriate level of skills and education. We are not a low skilled manufacturing economy and it is not economically feasible to become one.
3. Australia is by far the driest continent on earth with roughly 70% being dessert or arid planes with no consistent water source.
4. As such 90% of the population in congregated in urban areas, mostly running down the south eastern coast.
5. Migrants are not moving here to take advantage of our huge unpopulated land but to live in the densely populated urban cities.
6. Growth is good, just like inflation, but just like hyperinflation too much growth just leads to problems.

well good thing we didn't fuck up when we had to take the massive loads of british people post-ww2 then. what aboot the vietnamese, they swarmed the country, same with the lebos. but er mah gerd boat people.

lol queue jumpers. somebody has been drinking abbotts koolaid.

drunkface if we didn't need "unskilled labour" please explain why we give out 100k+ working holiday visas to the euros and asians coming here for a temp job in farms?

Last edited by Cybargs (2013-07-29 15:18:55)

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

yes... this is exactly what i am saying... you are a huge and unpopulated land. immigration is a GOOD thing to grow your population and economy. why are you finding this so fucking hard? go to university, please. the UK has one of the highest population densities in the world and we still take more immigrants, as a total, every year. 5x as many as australia. you should be taking 5x as many immigrants as us. you are an immigrant/ex-colonial nation and your future lies in fresh blood and expansion. simple.

The economy is just fine, thanks to a low population, why does it need to grow?

Britain takes an awful lot of worthless immigrants who are a net drain on the economy, that kind of 'growth' Aus can do without, thanks.