Uzique The Lesser
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+382|4493
in my experience asians are the worst of all drinkers. it is because they are culturally repressed and not allowed to say much to speak against family, home, work, or their superiors. my friend who lived in korea for a year said that the korean salarymen were almost frightening. they would drink to the brink of death. no one would bat an eyelid at the hordes of dudes in suits sleeping on benches, or passed out in their own puke.

sounds like asians are trying to escape from something. nyte is probably touchy about people who use drugs because he comes from a culture that depends on drug-escape as one of the only possible avenues for true human expression.

Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6955
^Werd. People drink to escape in asia. or they have to drink for business.

i know tons of asians who can easily finish a bottle of johnny a night. not only are they killing their body from work stress, theyre also killing themselves in a slow suicidal way in order to escape reality.
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Nyte
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+535|6991|Toronto, ON

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

so you never go out to bars and 'enjoy' a drink? guess everyone at bars and clubs are only there because they are incapable of talking to people face-to-face.

aren't you supposed to be well-educated? please tell me you are not this stupid.
I never said I don't go out to bars to enjoy a drink.  You put words in my mouth.

I said I only drink certain types of alcohol and only for the taste.  I will still go out to a bar to enjoy company but I don't use "alcohol" as a precursor to be social.

Learn2read engrish.
Alpha as fuck.
Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|6991|Toronto, ON
People that use alcohol to loosen up and be more "social" most likely have some sort of "inner demon" that they are trying to escape from.  Whether that "demon" is stress, an abusive childhood, suicidal tendencies, or whatnot, it's something bad.

I don't see anything wrong with drinking for the taste but apparently everyone here does.

"Nah bra, you gotta drink to be cool, down a whole bottle its so alpha and cool bra.  Fuck the taste."
Alpha as fuck.
Uzique The Lesser
Banned
+382|4493

Cybargs wrote:

^Werd. People drink to escape in asia. or they have to drink for business.

i know tons of asians who can easily finish a bottle of johnny a night. not only are they killing their body from work stress, theyre also killing themselves in a slow suicidal way in order to escape reality.
in most cases they're also just simply killing themselves, as in the singular act. all those alpha asians. death-cult. go japan.
Uzique The Lesser
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+382|4493

Nyte wrote:

People that use alcohol to loosen up and be more "social" most likely have some sort of "inner demon" that they are trying to escape from.  Whether that "demon" is stress, an abusive childhood, suicidal tendencies, or whatnot, it's something bad.

I don't see anything wrong with drinking for the taste but apparently everyone here does.

"Nah bra, you gotta drink to be cool, down a whole bottle its so alpha and cool bra.  Fuck the taste."
whilst i hardly ever drink, and i think being drunk generally sucks, i don't agree that anyone who drinks for its 'social benefits' has some 'huge problem'. some people are just simply shy. maybe they grew up in the styx, or maybe they were a single child, and not very socialised. maybe they were home-schooled, and are not used to integrating. maybe they are just naturally reserved. some people are not that outgoing. some people are introspective. perhaps they just like the pleasant-tipsy effects of being drunk? it turns the normal social mode on its head a little. nothing wrong with that. human beings have been seeking alternative states of consciousness or mind-altering experiences since our humble species originated. or did cave-men have social anxiety? maybe PTSD? idiot.

also 90% of bad drinking habits/accidents are purely peer-pressure. 'drinking culture'. it's a social rite of passage to get drunk with friends and 'gel'. people conform to official culture without thinking. herd instinct, like you mentioned. most people go out and drink a shitload because they want to keep up with their friends, or show off. it's not an emotional problem. it's just the fact drinking culture is so promoted and central in many countries. beer has been marketed and advertised to be a 'man's drink' (whatever that means). unavoidable logic: lots of young macho young men drink way too much as part of frats. some other drinks have been carefully marketed to appeal as 'party' drinks or mixers. people slam them back because they see other people ordering and slamming them at the bar. they weren't raped as children. they aren't suicidally depressed. they are just ordinary people.

nyte i mostly get the (honest) impression that it's you with the mental issues, brah. you have a personality disorder. a basic root-level inability to empathise with someone else. calling everyone 'sick' because they do something you don't personally like seems to me a little megalomaniacal.

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Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|6991|Toronto, ON
I guess calling pedophiles, rapists, criminals 'sick' because I don't personally like what they do is also megalomaniacal.

Not that I'm equating people that drink or take drugs to be 'cool' in those above categories, but I personally don't bother to empathize with people that do these things to 'gel' with people rather than actually enjoy the substance itself.

Calling me un-empathic is a joke when you are in fact the embodiment of that term itself.

You choose to associate yourself with things out of the norm because the 'masses' don't know any better and only you do (narcissism).

You 'escape from reality' into a world of mind-altering substances to fit into certain social spheres of influence (loneliness).

You condescend to others that don't share your wishy-washy views of anarchism, social justice, anti-capitalism/corporation (rebellious).

...yet you yourself work for a 'morally unjust' corporation (hypocrisy).

You articulate your various wish-washy opinions/views on a forum that no one could give 2 shits about (acceptance/validation outside of normal 'social' groups).

You belittle others on a forum where no one gives a shit to inflate your own self-worth because you subconsciously believe you have none (low self-esteem).

You are a lonely, validation-seeking, everyone-is-against-me, against-the-norm, narcissist.

I just keep it real by telling it how it is without pushing my dick down others throats and not throwing shit in others faces.
Alpha as fuck.
Uzique The Lesser
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i like how you put your diagnoses in brackets, just in case anyone, you know, couldn't read english and infer what you are trying to say from the meaning of your sentences (megalomaniacal).

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Uzique The Lesser
Banned
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your reasoning is bizarre. you'd rather people 'enjoy the substance' itself than use it in a social setting? so you're cool with people who freebase cocaine if they're so into it and are really passionate about it? your problem is people using drugs with friends, in order to make something social more interesting? uuuuuuum (cognitively impaired)

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Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|6991|Toronto, ON

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

your reasoning is bizarre. you'd rather people 'enjoy the substance' itself than use it in a social setting? so you're cool with people who freebase cocaine if they're so into it and are really passionate about it? your problem is people using drugs with friends, in order to make something social more interesting? uuuuuuum (cognitively impaired)
No, I don't have a problem with anyone.  I have a personal belief for not using substances to be social or "belong in a group".  People can do whatever they want and I don't care.  I just believe that I have enough social skills to not rely on drugs/alcohol to make "friends" with people.  This whole "rite of passage" is bullshit which is why I think people with MBAs/Business degrees who "network" by getting wasted with others are one of the worst types of people on this planet.

And yes, if someone actually enjoys cocaine for what it is, I'm all for them using it.  But I'm 100% sure no one does cocaine because they're "into" it.  You can get similar levels of that "high" with coffee ffs.  People only do hard drugs to "belong" and be "hip" and/or "cool".

Real world revelations, truth hurts don't it.

In general, people should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt others.  If someone decides to freebase cocaine on a regular basis because they like it, let them do it.  Surely enough they will be wiped out from this gene pool with an overdose so humankind progresses with a little bit of less stupid.  If someone does cocaine or any other hard drug to fit in, let them do it.  Though I personally will not for reasons stated above.

You will never be able to convince me to do drugs or drink to be social let alone change my view.  Argue/debate as long as you want.
Alpha as fuck.
Cybargs
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+2,285|6955

Nyte wrote:

This whole "rite of passage" is bullshit which is why I think people with MBAs/Business degrees who "network" by getting wasted with others are one of the worst types of people on this planet.
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top lel.

people have been drinking for meetings and negotiations since the dawn of time. you realize those business people who network by drinking are pulling more for their company than those who don't right?
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6977|Toronto | Canada

Nyte tell me when you come to the real city out of richmond hill. I wonder if you're only cocky on the internet

e: that came out as a challenge. oh well

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Uzique The Lesser
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lol you can get as high off coffee as cocaine. must be why all those people spend hundreds of dollars for pure cocaine. idiot! it's sitting right there in your nescafe! if only you didn't want to make friends so bad you could save so much money

nyte is the first asian person with aspergers that i have ever met.

also who the hell is "trying to convince you to do drugs"? nobody gives a shit what you do. people are calling you out because you're turning your personal preference into some dumb statement about 'IIIIII don't need to take drugs in order to make friends'. you're making it this 'me > you' thing, completely unnecessarily. nobody who takes drugs has problems making friends sober. that's not the point. your argument is shot through like swiss cheese with big vacuous holes of dumb.

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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5417|Sydney
Nyte, in a nutshell you're dumb as all fuck.
Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|6991|Toronto, ON

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Nyte tell me when you come to the real city out of richmond hill. I wonder if you're only cocky on the internet

e: that came out as a challenge. oh well
You mean Toronto?  I live in Toronto.  I only work up there.

And I'm not being cocky, are you confusing me with Uzique?
Alpha as fuck.
Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|6991|Toronto, ON

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

lol you can get as high off coffee as cocaine. must be why all those people spend hundreds of dollars for pure cocaine. idiot! it's sitting right there in your nescafe! if only you didn't want to make friends so bad you could save so much money

nyte is the first asian person with aspergers that i have ever met.

also who the hell is "trying to convince you to do drugs"? nobody gives a shit what you do. people are calling you out because you're turning your personal preference into some dumb statement about 'IIIIII don't need to take drugs in order to make friends'. you're making it this 'me > you' thing, completely unnecessarily. nobody who takes drugs has problems making friends sober. that's not the point. your argument is shot through like swiss cheese with big vacuous holes of dumb.
I never said 'me > you'.  You said that.  I said that I drink and smoke up only because I like it for what it is.  And I do that because I personally believe I don't need to alter my state to be more social with others (which is the biggest reason why people drink/take drugs).

If you want to shoot heroin, smoke crack, or get high to belong that's your prerogative.  My statement and belief stands.

Don't get all antsy and take offense because that is usually a sign that someone feels their own actions are being attacked.  It's not.  "Attacking" would be me saying "you're a fucking loser because you're a drug user and you drink".  Search my posts, I never said any of that.  I'm stating a personal belief and you can't convince me otherwise because I haven't heard any convincing arguments.
Alpha as fuck.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6820|SE London

Nyte wrote:

And yes, if someone actually enjoys cocaine for what it is, I'm all for them using it.  But I'm 100% sure no one does cocaine because they're "into" it.  You can get similar levels of that "high" with coffee ffs.  People only do hard drugs to "belong" and be "hip" and/or "cool".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Every single thing you have said there is wrong - with the possible exception of the first sentence.

a very deluded person wrote:

But I'm 100% sure no one does cocaine because they're "into" it.
Yes. Of course. So there are no cokeheads sitting at home taking coke alone because they like it. Utter, utter bollocks.

I know someone who smokes opium at home after a hard week at work from time to time - that's a hard drug. She does so maybe once a month, so isn't just hooked on it from when they became addicted when they were trying to impress friends. It is something they enjoy that helps them really relax. I do much the same with weed - have a joint at home after a hard day at work to unwind a bit. It puts me in the right frame of mind to stop thinking about work and to get on with some serious relaxation.

Prof. Nyte - expert chemist wrote:

You can get similar levels of that "high" with coffee ffs.
Yes. Of course you can. Makes about as much sense as the rest of what you're saying.

Nyte wrote:

People only do hard drugs to "belong" and be "hip" and/or "cool".
Yeah. All those hipster crackheads. Of course.

People do drugs because they enjoy them. I know I do. I stopped doing hard drugs more than 10 years ago because, whilst I still enjoyed them  (mainly LSD, MDMA - I was never a fan of coke which is what most people seemed to enjoy, but just seems to turn people into bigger cunts than they were before) I felt they were starting to take their toll on me and so decided I would stop using them, apart from weed.

There are many, many reasons people take drugs. Some people do drugs to relax. Some people do drugs because they want an escape from reality. Some people do drugs to have more fun in a social setting. Some people take drugs because they are unable to stop. Some people even do drugs because of peer pressure as you suggest, but the assertion that this accounts for the majority of drug users is absurd.

Nyte wrote:

I personally believe I don't need to alter my state to be more social with others (which is the biggest reason why people drink/take drugs).
You might believe that. You are entitled to believe that. You are also very wrong in that belief (of what the biggest reason why people drink/take drugs is). Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

You seem to have no real first hand experience of this - because you don't like taking drugs.

How did you form this opinion? Did you talk to lots of people who take hard drugs and ask them if they enjoy it? Did you research this in any way? Or did you, as I strongly suspect, pull this opinion out of your arse?

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