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13/f/taiwan wrote:

i have no idea how they can afford these places. i know people who make a good (nyc)salary yet stick to the outer-boroughs/suburbs and take the train or ferry to work. manhattan/downtown brooklyn are a nice area but i wouldn't want to live in it unless i become wealthy.

They don't want to live in the outer-boroughs or the suburbs though, they want that Williamsburg or Manhattan address. It's why they drove all the way out from Iowa They come out here with no money, and no job, but are completely image obsessed to the point that it obscures their judgement. You want the city experience? Move to Queens and buy a city ticket on the weekends or a metrocard. You might just be able to afford your rent AND eat. Novel concept.

Jay wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

i have no idea how they can afford these places. i know people who make a good (nyc)salary yet stick to the outer-boroughs/suburbs and take the train or ferry to work. manhattan/downtown brooklyn are a nice area but i wouldn't want to live in it unless i become wealthy.

They don't want to live in the outer-boroughs or the suburbs though, they want that Williamsburg or Manhattan address. It's why they drove all the way out from Iowa They come out here with no money, and no job, but are completely image obsessed to the point that it obscures their judgement. You want the city experience? Move to Queens and buy a city ticket on the weekends or a metrocard. You might just be able to afford your rent AND eat. Novel concept.

i'm sure it's for more than the zip code / status signifier / conversation point. a bunch of my graduate friends are paying 3x the rent they should be to live in london. it's the whole lifestyle. so what if it costs a lot more than necessary? you're in a driven environment, always lots going on, easy access to many things, etc. it's just the whole rat-race. playing the game. if you can snag a job that pays well enough to let you rent/invest at that level, why wouldn't you? everyone can live in the suburbs. not exactly a 'hot' place for a 20-something person to spend their decade. sitting on money and being prudent. yawn.

well the 'trendy neighbourhood' thing isn't exclusive to young 20-somethings with flash corporate/media jobs and lots of disposable income. i'm pretty sure that's just how society sort of naturally fragments and coalesces. you get demographic/generational patterns like that. i expect they see you early 30-something home-savers and furniture collectors with just as much suspicion and bewilderment. they're having fun, they're living in neighbourhoods surrounded with likeminded people, and they enjoy a rich social/cultural scene as a result. what's the problem? you can't queef at trendy/fashionable young people for wanting to live in 'cool' neighbourhoods. you're hardly immune to caring about your status/house-value/image. you're living in a mock tudor house, are you not? superficially adorned and ornamented to convey a certain socio-economic and cultural class. but no, let's diss the "young silly people trying to feel important". you're just a decade or so ahead of them, so you think your shit don't stink your version of middle-class living and gentrification doesn't come with the spunk and loudness of 20-somethings, so you think it's more qualified.

do you hate the hasidics too? they exhibit the exact same sociological patterns

Last edited by Uzique The Lesser (2013-05-10 20:28:48)

dilbs, my man, you live at home. i think you're even less entitled to queef about young urban professionals' trendy/aspirational living habits than jay is. you can't call a socially active and cool 20-something "sociopathic", unfortunately.

at least they don't live in apartments that have fake daubed-up exteriors to look that way.

no they don't seek status. i know. i've lived in an expensive city area. i have many friends who do right now. i am of that age-bracket and demographic. but you're going to tell us why we seek to live in expensive rent areas, right? we're not all status obsessed materialists like you. young people like living in cool urban areas because of things like arts/culture/music scene, because of the local/certain nightlife (which no, you cannot find "pretty much anywhere", nightlife expert)that attracts likeminded and similar-career people. people choose to pay a premium to live in 'trendy' inner-city neighbourhoods because, most of all, it's FUN. every weekend there is things going on. it's fast-paced, it's exciting. not 'status symbols'. the only status symbols worth talking about in post-code terms in cities like london are post-codes for millionaires. you talk pure shit. i have no idea what your problem is with young people living in fashionable, hip neighbourhoods. that's precisely what young people do. it's what they've done for as long as urban living has been a thing. don't be pissed and bitter just because you spent your 20's being indecisive, dropping out college, and having to sit in a desert.

so funny. you talk about "these beautiful floors" and your home furnishings, as if anyone cares, but then berate young fashionable people for living in their neighbourhoods as "status symbols". and lol "the exterior hails from a certain era". yes, an inauthentic one. is that what qualifies for 'old' or a 'certain period' style in america? 19th-20th century that was daubed to look a few hundred years older? just face it: you are obsessed with status just as much, if not more, than these young folks. just your kind isn't 'hip', it's 'square'. you're playing the same game.

Last edited by Uzique The Lesser (2013-05-11 10:54:17)

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

no they don't seek status. i know. i've lived in an expensive city area. i have many friends who do right now. i am of that age-bracket and demographic. but you're going to tell us why we seek to live in expensive rent areas, right? we're not all status obsessed materialists like you. young people like living in cool urban areas because of things like arts/culture/music scene, because of the local/certain nightlife (which no, you cannot find "pretty much anywhere", nightlife expert)that attracts likeminded and similar-career people. people choose to pay a premium to live in 'trendy' inner-city neighbourhoods because, most of all, it's FUN. every weekend there is things going on. it's fast-paced, it's exciting. not 'status symbols'. the only status symbols worth talking about in post-code terms in cities like london are post-codes for millionaires. you talk pure shit. i have no idea what your problem is with young people living in fashionable, hip neighbourhoods. that's precisely what young people do. it's what they've done for as long as urban living has been a thing. don't be pissed and bitter just because you spent your 20's being indecisive, dropping out college, and having to sit in a desert.

so funny. you talk about "these beautiful floors" and your home furnishings, as if anyone cares, but then berate young fashionable people for living in their neighbourhoods as "status symbols". and lol "the exterior hails from a certain era". yes, an inauthentic one. is that what qualifies for 'old' or a 'certain period' style in america? 19th-20th century that was daubed to look a few hundred years older? just face it: you are obsessed with status just as much, if not more, than these young folks. just your kind isn't 'hip', it's 'square'. you're playing the same game.

My apartment isn't a status symbol you ninny, it's just a nice place to live. It makes me happy when I come home after work.

Look, I mock these people for a very good reason. For the guys, it all boils down to sex. They're young, early to mid twenties and the goal for every guy of that age is to get laid. To get there, they think and act like shifty, where everything has to be exactly perfect before they can even make an attempt. They have to live in the right neighborhood in order to be seen as cool, they have to wear the right clothing for the same reasons. They don't realize that the women they are chasing look at them with pity rather than longing. Who wants to date a guy that spends all his money on rent, or crashes on his friends couch because he can't afford rent? Who wants to date a guy that has $5 in his pocket? It's not all about money, I'm not insinuating that women are that shallow, or that money trumps all, but being constantly broke and stressed out all the time gets old.

These people put themselves in this situation of their own volition, so when an idiot like the guy in the article starts a blog complaining about his search for housing, I don't feel sympathy. I don't automatically think to myself "Hey, Brooklyn needs more low income housing", I think to myself "What a tool." People of all stripes don't seem to get that you don't need a certain address to prove you have arrived in the world. You don't need a Brooklyn or LES address to announce to people that you are an artist, and you don't need a penthouse on the UES or a house in the Hamptons to tell the world that you are a stockbroker. I'm not singling out hipsters here, I think anyone that chases status symbols is incredibly shallow and, ultimately, self-loathing and insecure. Kind of like you.

lol jay's apartment isn't a status symbol, it's a place he lives. but 20-something people who live in a different neighbourhood to him are definitely only living there for a status symbol. okay.

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

no they don't seek status. i know. i've lived in an expensive city area. i have many friends who do right now. i am of that age-bracket and demographic. but you're going to tell us why we seek to live in expensive rent areas, right? we're not all status obsessed materialists like you. young people like living in cool urban areas because of things like arts/culture/music scene, because of the local/certain nightlife (which no, you cannot find "pretty much anywhere", nightlife expert)that attracts likeminded and similar-career people. people choose to pay a premium to live in 'trendy' inner-city neighbourhoods because, most of all, it's FUN. every weekend there is things going on. it's fast-paced, it's exciting. not 'status symbols'. the only status symbols worth talking about in post-code terms in cities like london are post-codes for millionaires. you talk pure shit. i have no idea what your problem is with young people living in fashionable, hip neighbourhoods. that's precisely what young people do. it's what they've done for as long as urban living has been a thing. don't be pissed and bitter just because you spent your 20's being indecisive, dropping out college, and having to sit in a desert.

so funny. you talk about "these beautiful floors" and your home furnishings, as if anyone cares, but then berate young fashionable people for living in their neighbourhoods as "status symbols". and lol "the exterior hails from a certain era". yes, an inauthentic one. is that what qualifies for 'old' or a 'certain period' style in america? 19th-20th century that was daubed to look a few hundred years older? just face it: you are obsessed with status just as much, if not more, than these young folks. just your kind isn't 'hip', it's 'square'. you're playing the same game.

Shut up you hipster.

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

it's funny cause you can call me a hipster all the time and totally miss your mark. but you'll be black every single day you wake up. and i can tell you hate it.

The first humans were black. Everybody gotta little black in them.

I don't hate it.

Roc18 wrote:

The first humans were black.

They were covered in hair too           B E F O R E   T H E Y   E V O L V E D.

Its a throwback to our savage african history, like canine teeth.