Australian politics thread.

2013-05-01 21:01:26

#2801

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6953|Canberra, AUS

Macbeth wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
-Whiteroom- wrote:
Enough to bring up real estate value all through BCs lower-mainland.
i know that feel bro.

edit: i remember when i was younger how white trash were bitching about rich asians and thought the government gave them money to buy awesome houses and european cars. pretty lol.
Are there any international Australian car brands? I know you guys have domestic car making but any brands have a multicontinent reach?

The main "local" car brand is a subsidiary of GM, so no.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2013-05-01 21:03:04

#2802

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Macbeth wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
-Whiteroom- wrote:
Enough to bring up real estate value all through BCs lower-mainland.
i know that feel bro.

edit: i remember when i was younger how white trash were bitching about rich asians and thought the government gave them money to buy awesome houses and european cars. pretty lol.
Are there any international Australian car brands? I know you guys have domestic car making but any brands have a multicontinent reach?

Ford and Holden (owned by GM), so not really "Australian owned."

Jay: you also have local city councils in housing districts voting against development of apartments in certain suburbs.

Sydney is like this, anywhere with the word "west" in it eg, Killara vs Killara West, Chatswood vs Chatswood West has like a drop of at least 100k on avg housing price lol.

in my suburb average housing price is around 700k+ (mostly apartments)

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2013-05-01 21:05:19

#2803

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5636|London, England

Cybargs wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

i know that feel bro.

edit: i remember when i was younger how white trash were bitching about rich asians and thought the government gave them money to buy awesome houses and european cars. pretty lol.
Are there any international Australian car brands? I know you guys have domestic car making but any brands have a multicontinent reach?
Ford and Holden (owned by GM), so not really "Australian owned."

Jay: you also have local city councils in housing districts voting against development of apartments in certain suburbs.

Sydney is like this, anywhere with the word "west" in it eg, Killara vs Killara West, Chatswood vs Chatswood West has like a drop of at least 100k on avg housing price lol.

in my suburb average housing price is around 700k+ (mostly apartments)

Average home price where I currently live is probably $900k-1M for little houses on tiny plots of land. It's what passes for suburbs inside the borders of NYC.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-05-01 21:06:49

#2804

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6953|Canberra, AUS

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/06/and … -2013-are/

Sydney and Melbourne are getting insanely overpriced places to live.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2013-05-01 21:07:07

#2805

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5636|London, England

http://www.trulia.com/for_sale/5032_nh/ … HOME_type/

Yeah, $600k-1.5M

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-05-01 21:07:17

#2806

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Jay wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Macbeth wrote:

Are there any international Australian car brands? I know you guys have domestic car making but any brands have a multicontinent reach?
Ford and Holden (owned by GM), so not really "Australian owned."

Jay: you also have local city councils in housing districts voting against development of apartments in certain suburbs.

Sydney is like this, anywhere with the word "west" in it eg, Killara vs Killara West, Chatswood vs Chatswood West has like a drop of at least 100k on avg housing price lol.

in my suburb average housing price is around 700k+ (mostly apartments)
Average home price where I currently live is probably $900k-1M for little houses on tiny plots of land. It's what passes for suburbs inside the borders of NYC.

Actual Houses go around a million+, property prices aren't as sky high as NYC though. I guess our fuck off were full policy works pretty well.

2013-05-01 21:10:43

#2807

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5636|London, England

I just can't understand wanting to raise kids in an urban environment. I want my kids to have space to play without worrying they'll be hit by a car.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-05-01 21:12:49

#2808

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Jay wrote:
I just can't understand wanting to raise kids in an urban environment. I want my kids to have space to play without worrying they'll be hit by a car.

oh yeah like those selfish australians who want houses instead of apartments right?

2013-05-01 21:16:56

#2809

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6953|Canberra, AUS

My house has a normal-ish backyard, but it backs onto a nature reserve and there's a sizeable open space with a playground about 100m down the road.

Canberra can be a bit dreary at times, but open space is one thing it nails.

Last edited by Spark (2013-05-01 21:17:18)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2013-05-01 21:17:40

#2810

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5636|London, England

Cybargs wrote:
Jay wrote:
I just can't understand wanting to raise kids in an urban environment. I want my kids to have space to play without worrying they'll be hit by a car.
oh yeah like those selfish australians who want houses instead of apartments right?

I never said they were selfish, just unrealistic. How long of a commute is the average urban dweller in Australia willing to endure? 1 to 1.5 hours each way is normal here.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-05-01 21:20:37

#2811

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Jay wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Jay wrote:
I just can't understand wanting to raise kids in an urban environment. I want my kids to have space to play without worrying they'll be hit by a car.
oh yeah like those selfish australians who want houses instead of apartments right?
I never said they were selfish, just unrealistic. How long of a commute is the average urban dweller in Australia willing to endure? 1 to 1.5 hours each way is normal here.

about the same here actually.

there are certain suburbs people avoid kinda like nobody wants to live in queens/bronx kinda deal.

2013-05-01 21:21:46

#2812

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6953|Canberra, AUS

It's worth remembering that Sydney is a city of less than 5 million people, not >15 million...

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2013-05-01 21:23:53

#2813

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5636|London, England

Cybargs wrote:
Jay wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

oh yeah like those selfish australians who want houses instead of apartments right?
I never said they were selfish, just unrealistic. How long of a commute is the average urban dweller in Australia willing to endure? 1 to 1.5 hours each way is normal here.
about the same here actually.

there are certain suburbs people avoid kinda like nobody wants to live in queens/bronx kinda deal.

Queens isn't bad. It's not trendy like Brooklyn or Manhattan, but most of the northern parts of it (away from Laguardia) are very nice places to live. Some nice parts in the Bronx too.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-05-01 21:26:43

#2814

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Jay wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Jay wrote:

I never said they were selfish, just unrealistic. How long of a commute is the average urban dweller in Australia willing to endure? 1 to 1.5 hours each way is normal here.
about the same here actually.

there are certain suburbs people avoid kinda like nobody wants to live in queens/bronx kinda deal.
Queens isn't bad. It's not trendy like Brooklyn or Manhattan, but most of the northern parts of it (away from Laguardia) are very nice places to live. Some nice parts in the Bronx too.

Same in the western suburbs of sydney. not exactly first rate property due to the historical violence, but much cheaper and a lot safer now.

2013-05-01 21:28:50

#2815

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5636|London, England

Just going off of google maps, it really looks like the whole city is more suburb than city. I see lots and lots of row houses with decent lot sizes not far from the city center (looking at Strathfield). No wonder you have a housing shortage

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-05-02 02:43:30

#2816

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6384|eXtreme to the maX

Jaekus wrote:
lol, saying the LNP are great at running the economy. The QLD LNP government recently and very narrowly avoided a recession, nine months after taking office and after their first budget was handed down complete with job cuts. Abbott will be much worse. Labor might be fucking up their execution but they did navigate us through the GFC in a manner that makes the rest of the world envious.

Well, Queensland was pretty messed up after however many years of Labor, nine months in they've barely started.

While Australia did OK through the GFC - thanks to a Chinese boom, maintaing interest rates and unprecedented terms of trade, the govt has been borrowing at an unprecdented rate.

Billions of dollars credit/deficit.

Fuck Israel

2013-05-02 02:50:14

#2817

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Jay wrote:
Just going off of google maps, it really looks like the whole city is more suburb than city. I see lots and lots of row houses with decent lot sizes not far from the city center (looking at Strathfield). No wonder you have a housing shortage

strathfield is full of asian gangbangers. everything north of the harbour bridge is the promised land

2013-05-02 03:06:26

#2818

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6384|eXtreme to the maX

A SOUTH Australian politician has moved to do away with a "gay panic" defence which can be used to reduce a murder charge if the perpetrator says they acted in response to an advance by a gay person.
The homosexual advance defence, commonly galled the "gay panic" defence, can be used under common law to reduce a murder sentence to manslaughter if the alleged perpetrator argues they were provoked by an unwanted sexual advance by a homosexual person.

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2013-05-02 04:31:17

#2819

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5636|London, England

Cybargs wrote:
Jay wrote:
Just going off of google maps, it really looks like the whole city is more suburb than city. I see lots and lots of row houses with decent lot sizes not far from the city center (looking at Strathfield). No wonder you have a housing shortage
strathfield is full of asian gangbangers. everything north of the harbour bridge is the promised land

Then you need some gentrification.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-05-02 04:48:43

#2820

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6384|eXtreme to the maX

Jay wrote:
Are there a lot of Europeans buying vacation homes there? Vacation homes are what went bust in the US and Europe for the most part.

Nope.
Property isn't cheap here, the exchange rate is not in their favour, its not simple for non-residents to buy property and its a 24hr plane ride each way and upside down when they get here so they'd have to be fairly retarded.

Fuck Israel

2013-05-02 04:56:06

#2821

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Jay wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Jay wrote:
Just going off of google maps, it really looks like the whole city is more suburb than city. I see lots and lots of row houses with decent lot sizes not far from the city center (looking at Strathfield). No wonder you have a housing shortage
strathfield is full of asian gangbangers. everything north of the harbour bridge is the promised land
Then you need some gentrification.

"go west young man, go west"

2013-05-02 04:59:35

#2822

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4532

Dilbert_X wrote:
Jay wrote:
Are there a lot of Europeans buying vacation homes there? Vacation homes are what went bust in the US and Europe for the most part.
Nope.
Property isn't cheap here, the exchange rate is not in their favour, its not simple for non-residents to buy property and its a 24hr plane ride each way and upside down when they get here so they'd have to be fairly retarded.

yeah, why would a european want to buy a 'vacation home' on the other side of the world? plus, to most europeans australia either seems like a) a racist and homogeneous shithole (see france) or b) just another version of england in the sun (see the rest of europe). add to that a huge flight-time, pretty expensive flights, and the fact australia has a very unfavourable exchange... it just makes no sense at all.

europeans buy vacation homes in europe. there is enough diversity of culture and lifestyle here that you don't really need to go to the other side of the world. the north/south divide in europe is already pretty culturally/temperately different. you get plenty of brits buying houses in the south of france, spain, italy etc. for instance. much easier on the paperwork, too.

2013-05-02 05:00:23

#2823

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4532

also you guys are total pussies, whining about property prices. try london. i'm willing to bet property in my tiny ass town or area in the country costs more than most property in most cities.

2013-05-02 05:02:39

#2824

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6384|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique The Cat-Hater wrote:
a) a racist and homogeneous shithole (see france) or
b) just another version of england in the sun

lol

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2013-05-02 05:04:46

#2825

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6994

Uzique The Lesser wrote:
also you guys are total pussies, whining about property prices. try london. i'm willing to bet property in my tiny ass town or area in the country costs more than most property in most cities.

Barring some unimaginable economic catastrophe, though, neither party can reduce Sydney home prices from the present median of $646,400. Doing so would wreak havoc.
Housing costs have risen exponentially since World War II. In March 1953, you could buy a two-storey brick house with a slate roof in Balmain for £4000. If prices had only risen with inflation that would be a steal today at $124,000 - about one-tenth of the actual price.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/sydney-ho … z2S8VCKL91

Sydney housing prices are pretty fucked bro. 1.2 mil for a two storey brick house in balmain lol

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