Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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For the average person the NBN won't make a scrap of difference. 100MBs or 25Mbs, its invisible.
A solid backbone and getting decent rates out to some of the more remote areas would be useful, FTTH for everyone who doesn't want or need it - its stupid.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5481|Sydney

Dilbert_X wrote:

For the average person the NBN won't make a scrap of difference. 100MBs or 25Mbs, its invisible.
A solid backbone and getting decent rates out to some of the more remote areas would be useful, FTTH for everyone who doesn't want or need it - its stupid.
I'm sure at one time the idea of paving all roads was 'stupid'.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7019

Dilbert_X wrote:

For the average person the NBN won't make a scrap of difference. 100MBs or 25Mbs, its invisible.
A solid backbone and getting decent rates out to some of the more remote areas would be useful, FTTH for everyone who doesn't want or need it - its stupid.
somebody doesn't understand how fiber works.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Many of Australias roads are still unpaved and the country seems to function perfectly OK......

The NBN is a half reasonable idea implemented wrong.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX

Cybargs wrote:

somebody doesn't understand how fiber works.
Which part exactly?
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6977|Canberra, AUS

Dilbert_X wrote:

Many of Australias roads are still unpaved and the country seems to function perfectly OK.......
this cannot be a serious post
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
AussieReaper
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Jaekus wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

For the average person the NBN won't make a scrap of difference. 100MBs or 25Mbs, its invisible.
A solid backbone and getting decent rates out to some of the more remote areas would be useful, FTTH for everyone who doesn't want or need it - its stupid.
I'm sure at one time the idea of paving all roads was 'stupid'.
It'll ruin the shoes of my horse!
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5481|Sydney

Spark wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Many of Australias roads are still unpaved and the country seems to function perfectly OK.......
this cannot be a serious post
It's the majority of his posts that make me think he's constantly trolling or just really that dense.
Cybargs
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

somebody doesn't understand how fiber works.
Which part exactly?
they still need to lay down the fiber lines don't they? the difference between providing 25mb/s and 100mb/s on fiber is network capacity.
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Uzique The Lesser
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Cybargs wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

somebody doesn't understand how fiber works.
Which part exactly?
they still need to lay down the fiber lines don't they? the difference between providing 25mb/s and 100mb/s on fiber is network capacity.
technically you can get about 20-22Mb/s out of old copper telephone infrastructure.

but, yeah, it'll most likely involve cable/fiber.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX
So we need FTTN and a very high bandwidth backbone, FTTH - not so much really.

The difference between ~20Mbs and 100Mbs for the typical user is almost meaningless, the difference in the amount of infrastructure work is immense, there's just no way to justify it.

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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6977|Canberra, AUS

Cybargs wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

somebody doesn't understand how fiber works.
Which part exactly?
they still need to lay down the fiber lines don't they? the difference between providing 25mb/s and 100mb/s on fiber is network capacity.
fibre to 'node' boxes i think at the end of streets or the like, i don't know how much copper the coalition is saying you'll need to the premises but it'll be a fair bit.

yeah, it's cheaper, but the whole point of this is that it's an investment and it generates a return, so...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Cybargs
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So we need FTTN and a very high bandwidth backbone, FTTH - not so much really.
you know why people approve of the NBN? because people remember the times when the rest of the world had broadband and we were still stuck on dial up.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6977|Canberra, AUS
i still have the dial-up "chime" seared into my head
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5481|Sydney

Dilbert_X wrote:

So we need FTTN and a very high bandwidth backbone, FTTH - not so much really.

The difference between ~20Mbs and 100Mbs for the typical user is almost meaningless, the difference in the amount of infrastructure work is immense, there's just no way to justify it.
lol, this is like the myth about Gates' saying 640k will be enough for anyone.

So you legitimately believe that we will never need more than 25Mbs?
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6977|Canberra, AUS
Youtube already has options which require close to 25MBps.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5481|Sydney

Spark wrote:

Youtube already has options which require close to 25MBps.
Because Dilbert doesn't need to download porn any faster he can't possibly conceive why anyone else would need faster speeds either.
AussieReaper
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Jaekus wrote:

Spark wrote:

Youtube already has options which require close to 25MBps.
Because Dilbert doesn't need to download porn any faster he can't possibly conceive why anyone else would need faster speeds either.
He hasn't browsed any HD sites I guess.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6977|Canberra, AUS
It'd be interesting to see the sort of bandwidth speeds at which large-scale commercial "cloud computing" becomes viable.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
AussieReaper
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+5,761|6455|what

And the financial industry - seriously getting information fractions of a seconds faster than other markets can make a difference, as many trading platforms execute entirely automated.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX

Spark wrote:

Youtube already has options which require close to 25MBps.
Watching youtube is hardly a national priority.

100Mbs to every home would be nice to have but I would have thought a dual-lane highway or a quality rail network - where trains can go >50kmh and pass by without one of them having to stop - between the major cities ought to come first really.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5481|Sydney
Surgery can be conducted using robotics with the surgeon in another city making extremely delicate operations in real time with no risk of network congestion. Businesses can run smoothly, etc etc.

It's not just about speed. With FTTH it's like everyone having their own personal lane on the road.
Uzique The Lesser
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+382|4557

AussieReaper wrote:

And the financial industry - seriously getting information fractions of a seconds faster than other markets can make a difference, as many trading platforms execute entirely automated.
yeah because australia is going to replace new york, london or tokyo as one of the major financial hubs any time soon.

100Mbps will surely give you the edge.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7019

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

And the financial industry - seriously getting information fractions of a seconds faster than other markets can make a difference, as many trading platforms execute entirely automated.
yeah because australia is going to replace new york, london or tokyo as one of the major financial hubs any time soon.

100Mbps will surely give you the edge.
yeah nobody gives a shit about the ASX. that really hurt uzique. i guess those traders don't use the internet to make trades in nyc or london right?
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6977|Canberra, AUS

Dilbert_X wrote:

Spark wrote:

Youtube already has options which require close to 25MBps.
Watching youtube is hardly a national priority.

100Mbs to every home would be nice to have but I would have thought a dual-lane highway or a quality rail network - where trains can go >50kmh and pass by without one of them having to stop - between the major cities ought to come first really.
well done on missing the point.

the point is that it's stupid to argue that we'll never need 100mbps ie. we'll never find useful applications for 100mbps when the applications are already arriving. we simply don't know what those applications will be.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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