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I think Hilary Clinton would have been a better president than Obama. She would have been more popular and able to successfully navigate congress. Would also be less arrogant.
Uzique The Lesser
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i am always really entertained by jay's varied and thoughtful posts.
Spark
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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

i like his implication that every single remotely protest-y or information leak-y blog or news-source is automatically sullied because julian assange enjoyed fame and stroking women a little bit too much. yeah! let's not read any protest or hacktivist websites ever again, because julian assange hooked up with a woman in a hotel in sweden one time.
Or because he decided that it suited his purposes to cosy up to regimes with infamously poor records on press freedom and journalist protections just because their interests aligned, but y'know. Again, the problem isn't Wikileaks, it's Assange and the fact that he's a hypocrite and a dick.

Anyway, my original point is that RT - which is actually where the Assange link comes in if you want to stretch it - is not especially trustworthy IMO, and that if you want alternative views from a non-Western/non-American standpoint you can do much better quite easily.

looks like he logged off. my patient line of inquiry about where taiwan mentioned a 'dirtied' or 'unreliable' news-source was clearly too much for his rigorously scientific mind.
or i could spend all day having pointless petty arguments about the shitty life choices of some forum member across the ocean. because that's such a capital use of one's time
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Students at an Attleboro, Massachusetts, middle school went hungry this week, if they had a negative balance on their pre-paid lunch cards.

Five cents of debt was enough for cafeteria employees at the Coehlo Middle School to instruct kids at least one day this week to dump out the food they would have normally eaten, CNN affiliate WJAR in Rhode Island reported.

About 25 children left the lunchroom with empty stomachs, said Whitson's Culinary Group in a statement. The company runs the school's cafeteria.

Parents were appalled. So was the principal. So was Whitson's.

"I told them this is bullying; that's neglect, child abuse," said parent Jo-An Blanchard.

Principal Andrew Boles apologized and blamed the culinary company. "My expectation is that every child, every adult, every parent, every student, every teacher is respected in this building, and that didn't happen yesterday because of Whitson's," he told WJAR.

Whitson's apologized in a statement and said it was not company policy to deny meals to children. It added that the school district had no official policy on what to do in such situations.

"Employees had taken it upon themselves to institute this change; it was not condoned or approved," said Whitson spokeswoman Holly Von Seggern. "We had absolutely no idea."

Workers in the school's cafeteria work on a contract basis, Boles said. He thinks the decision came from Whitson's.

Whitson's supplies 80 schools in New England with lunch meals, Von Seggern said. CNN could find no previous reports on similar incidents involving the company.

Kids with a negative balance usually receive "a cheese sandwich, a fruit and vegetable, and milk." Then the company contacts the parents about payment.
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13/f/taiwan
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Spark wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

i like his implication that every single remotely protest-y or information leak-y blog or news-source is automatically sullied because julian assange enjoyed fame and stroking women a little bit too much. yeah! let's not read any protest or hacktivist websites ever again, because julian assange hooked up with a woman in a hotel in sweden one time.
Or because he decided that it suited his purposes to cosy up to regimes with infamously poor records on press freedom and journalist protections just because their interests aligned, but y'know. Again, the problem isn't Wikileaks, it's Assange and the fact that he's a hypocrite and a dick.

Anyway, my original point is that RT - which is actually where the Assange link comes in if you want to stretch it - is not especially trustworthy IMO, and that if you want alternative views from a non-Western/non-American standpoint you can do much better quite easily.

looks like he logged off. my patient line of inquiry about where taiwan mentioned a 'dirtied' or 'unreliable' news-source was clearly too much for his rigorously scientific mind.
or i could spend all day having pointless petty arguments about the shitty life choices of some forum member across the ocean. because that's such a capital use of one's time
lol, shitty life style choices? i guess i should listen to person with legitimate scientific knowledge about which news sources are the most beneficial.

stop assuming because i watch/read RT, one of many news sources i get my information from, that i just repeat everything from RT.  i also use fox news. does that make me a triggerhappy redneck who owns a 4x4 pickup truck with custom mudflaps? i don't where you came up with this idea that i only get my news from RT or that i'm "anti-american." much like jay, who labels any idea that conflicts with his poorly-constructed free-market beliefs, as hipster or leftist. as if those two are interchangeable and i spend my hours on end sitting in my local starbucks reading marx and engels. i have a theory as to why jay hipsters and any leftist ideals but i'll save that for another time.

did you even watch the video? it's not RT. the story revolves around the organization/reporter but it's being told by another news organization. i never said RT is the quintessence  of 21st news organizations. stop running off about nonsense. i understand it has slants(just like most other news organizations, including your much praised and beloved AJE), but it does help you conceive a better picture and the fact is it does cover US/global stories in a different angle.

as for your claim about aje being the only or best news coverage for the arab spring. to a certain extent it was the only news coverage but that didn't necessarily mean it was the best. aljazeera journalist quit when they were told to downplay the protests in all of the arab monarchies(jordan, saudi arabia, UAE, bahrain qatar) or shed light on who the main fighting forces on the ground in syria are and who is bank rolling them. something RT and alternative news sources cover extensively.

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Macbeth wrote:

Students at an Attleboro, Massachusetts, middle school went hungry this week, if they had a negative balance on their pre-paid lunch cards.

Five cents of debt was enough for cafeteria employees at the Coehlo Middle School to instruct kids at least one day this week to dump out the food they would have normally eaten, CNN affiliate WJAR in Rhode Island reported.

About 25 children left the lunchroom with empty stomachs, said Whitson's Culinary Group in a statement. The company runs the school's cafeteria.

Parents were appalled. So was the principal. So was Whitson's.

"I told them this is bullying; that's neglect, child abuse," said parent Jo-An Blanchard.

Principal Andrew Boles apologized and blamed the culinary company. "My expectation is that every child, every adult, every parent, every student, every teacher is respected in this building, and that didn't happen yesterday because of Whitson's," he told WJAR.

Whitson's apologized in a statement and said it was not company policy to deny meals to children. It added that the school district had no official policy on what to do in such situations.

"Employees had taken it upon themselves to institute this change; it was not condoned or approved," said Whitson spokeswoman Holly Von Seggern. "We had absolutely no idea."

Workers in the school's cafeteria work on a contract basis, Boles said. He thinks the decision came from Whitson's.

Whitson's supplies 80 schools in New England with lunch meals, Von Seggern said. CNN could find no previous reports on similar incidents involving the company.

Kids with a negative balance usually receive "a cheese sandwich, a fruit and vegetable, and milk." Then the company contacts the parents about payment.
Privatized services always do a better job than the government. The free market regulates itself
I know mycomment wasn't thevsmartest but is anyone going to comment?
13/f/taiwan
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public school food is garbage. i always avoided it during high school. it was only free for people who lived below a certain tax bracket. poor food for poor people. otherwise you had to pay a dollar for rubber meat, nasty milk and soggy fries. i don't think the company should have thrown out the food though. i remember the cafeteria giving away any extras if you were 'lucky' enough to have lunch during the period before the cafeteria would shut down.
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between you and jay and sup mind talking about public school in new york I don't understand why anyone would want to raise a family there unless they sent their kid(s) to private school.
Jay
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There are a lot of really good school districts on Long Island.

I would never raise my kids in NYC though, no.
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

between you and jay and sup mind talking about public school in new york I don't understand why anyone would want to raise a family there unless they sent their kid(s) to private school.
Lack of perspective and a complex. I thought my HS sucked when I was there but after getting out and learning more about how education worked made me realize I received a great education.
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Jay wrote:

I would never raise my kids in NYC though, no.
Jay
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http://www.thebestschools.org/blog/2013 … hools-u-s/

There's four Long Island schools on that list, two in old money school districts, and two in predominantly jewish school districts.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Spearhead
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

public school food is garbage. i always avoided it during high school. it was only free for people who lived below a certain tax bracket. poor food for poor people. otherwise you had to pay a dollar for rubber meat, nasty milk and soggy fries. i don't think the company should have thrown out the food though. i remember the cafeteria giving away any extras if you were 'lucky' enough to have lunch during the period before the cafeteria would shut down.
I think I got my eating disorder from middle school   It is some seriously nasty shit.  Flies in the salad.  Orange juice inside plastic bags.  God knows what kind of meat.  I used to just throw it at people instead of actually eating it, lol

No but seriously, fuck public school food.  IMO we ought to provide unlimited amounts of fruit/vegetables free of charge, straight from the grocery store.  Hell just stick the produce section of the store inside the school itself.  Kids can pay for shitty meat if they want to.
Spearhead
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

as for your claim about aje being the only or best news coverage for the arab spring. to a certain extent it was the only news coverage but that didn't necessarily mean it was the best. aljazeera journalist quit when they were told to downplay the protests in all of the arab monarchies(jordan, saudi arabia, UAE, bahrain qatar) or shed light on who the main fighting forces on the ground in syria are and who is bank rolling them. something RT and alternative news sources cover extensively.
Libyan rebels also flew the Qatari flag outside Gaddafis compound!  I saw that in a video and was like wtf is going on here?  Oh.....
Uzique The Lesser
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well timed article about the class system in the US and UK

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22025328

US historian Dr Tim Stanley summed up the difference between social status in the US and UK for the Daily Telegraph: "To Americans, social status is all about money and power. To Brits it is all about birth and accent."

Today, one of the few things US politicians on the right and the left agree on is social mobility in their country has calcified. It is actually lower than in Britain, as the New York Times noted last year.

Why it took so long to figure this out is beyond me. It's been clear since the 1970s that the class system was becoming more inflexible.

The great upthrust of the immigrant working class into the middle class after World War II, via the GI Bill, was stopped stone cold by the events of the autumn of 1973, when the October war in the Middle East led to the quadrupling of oil prices virtually overnight and the great inflation set in.

Personal testimony: my father was a clinical professor at a Philadelphia medical school. He made a very nice living. Like seeks like, and we lived in a neighbourhood of doctors, lawyers, executives, stockbrokers and successful entrepreneurs. You had to work hard to fall out of that class.

Plenty of my school fellows did just OK in high school, went to second-rank universities, where they majored in having a good time, crammed for the LSAT (law school test) and squeezed into second-rank law schools or business schools.

They emerged on the other side with a credential that allowed them to make a pretty good living without putting themselves out too much. A young man from an inner-city school in Philadelphia who took the same relaxed approach to study and career would never have made it to law school or business school.

It was entirely likely that young man had brushes with the law and possibly ended up in prison, as a look at incarceration rates for 18- to 25-year-old African American males in the 70s and 80s will confirm. And if you were white and working class, listen to the songs of Bruce Springsteen to get a sense of the frustrations.

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http://icasualties.org/oef/Fatalities.aspx

spend all your time avoiding death from people who hate you only to end up dying in a helicopter accident.

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Macbeth wrote:

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I think Hilary Clinton would have been a better president than Obama. She would have been more popular and able to successfully navigate congress. Would also be less arrogant.
yes, but she would have to hand it over to the VP because of the bloodclots. do you really think her VP would have been able to assume her role, even if it would be temporarily?
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Will there ever be a hybrid that looks like a normal car?

http://jalopnik.com/you-will-fit-in-vol … -451566897

The covered wheels I can get used to. It's just a car part after all. But the split rear window? WTF is that shit? From behind, it looks like one of those embarrassing "fancy" computer chassis you see going for like 20 bucks.
Spark
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i'm pretty sure you can get hybrid versions of many 'normal' cars nowadays
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
unnamednewbie13
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I mean like...one designed and marketed as a hybrid or an electric that doesn't look like it was spawned out of a toy factory.
RTHKI
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Uzique The Lesser
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car designers obviously get their inspiration from 1980's sci-fi movies.
Macbeth
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Stupid rear wheel covers. Hate those things
Dilbert_X
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Honda Civic hybrid and Toyota Camry hybrid are otherwise normal cars, CBA to look up which Lexus SUVs are hybrids.

And yes, a fair bit of engineering progress is inspired by sci-fi, not so much by bonnet dramas.
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Uzique The Lesser
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Honda Civic hybrid and Toyota Camry hybrid are otherwise normal cars, CBA to look up which Lexus SUVs are hybrids.

And yes, a fair bit of engineering progress is inspired by sci-fi, not so much by bonnet dramas.
lol facepalm. only you could make that little point into a 'engineering rules, effete austen literature sucks'

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