BF2S Forums Quit Bashing The Snipers!!!

Could you be 'the reason for the win' with any kit, or can you only play sniper?

He gets 13 kills a round while sniping. Him being the reason for all his wins and such a high win/loss ratio of 1.3 is just his imagination.

my stats suck, but getting better especialy with the sniper.  I have good rounds and bad rounds.  now that I am good with the sniper kit( not greate) I have been geting low death rounds with very positive KDR (14 to 1 at times).  On maps where flags are not that important (Karkand one flag to stop the ticket blead) is that not what is important ( having a positive KDR for the team, not counting the kills that get revived of course).  clays are no cheeper than Jahad jeeping or a spe'Ops blowing his C4 from across the map when the flag goes changes.  If you don't think that snipers are effective then you are not playing/teamed up with good ones.  none of the other classes can be effective killing at 300+ meeters with a gun.   I think the Sniper kit has a tougher learning curve because of the difficulty in short range use and bullet drop at long range, so there are a lot of poor snipers.  It is fun though.  If you don't like the clays switch sides or don't play karkand so mutch.   

I do cap flags with the sniper.  I set the clays up then cap the flag and then move off to a good vantage point (one with good view of multiple flags or other stratigic position including the flag I took) with a flag defense left so that others can spawn on it before it gets taken back.

It never fails. When your team is losing on Sharqi, half of it will spawn as snipers...





.... and your team will lose even worse.

Last edited by JimKong (2006-05-26 13:39:48)

Foxhoundmgw wrote:

SargeV1.4 wrote:

You shouldn't bother writing sensible and though out posts like that when they just get ignored =\ Nicely put though

Hi fanboy

Stating that AT Mines don't kill infantry.

Having it stated that Claymores don't kill Tanks

Stating that AT Mines don't kill infantry instead of accepting that the 2 kits do a similar task of defending flags but against different targets. Yeah, that's sensible and thought out.

Slagging someone off for saying your most loved kit sucks, when they never once said your much loved kit sucks. Also dead sensible and well thought out.

I think my previous post that way too many Snipers are Primadonnas, as quoted by your most sensible and well thinking posterbuddy, was dead on.

Is he hurting my feelings now?
I can't really tell and I don't really care...

You are right,the first facts I pointed out were very simple,yet your statements indicated that you weren't aware of these facts or just ignored them to make your opinion a bit more reasonable.

I'm just pointing out that your statements about other classes being able to perform sniper specific tasks,which  basically means that snipers suck,which you didn't say,at least not literally,aren't true.

I've kinda had enough of this "discussion" with you,I'm sure there are other primadonnas out there who are dying to continue this little chat.
Try Nyte,our forum's sniper jesus,I'm sure you two can discuss to the point of having orgasms from your witty,yet harsh comments....

Boo-hoo,I think I'm gonna go cry now because I got my ego crushed by some faceless nobody from the internet...

bobroonie.bda wrote:

The only "bad" thing about snipers are close combat and having to many.. When people continue to spawn sniper  at a flag where they know will be a fire fight. Or if there is armor there.. total waste of a ticket. Today i got invited to a squad i looked at it and it had 4 snipers and a anti tank.. why the hell would i join that kinda squad? when there are 1/3 of the team snipers there is a good chance your going to lose.

calling claymore's a "noob" weapon is the same as saying c4, mines, bullets, knives, gernades, or anyother weapon a noob weapon.

I understand sniper is fun to play and thats why people do it.. I will switch teams if i feel my team is not working as a team.. ie  way to many snipers on my team, or way to many wanna be pilots waiting in line. Just switch teams and kick the crap out of them. can't complain because well it doesnt do any good. cant give advice because people will not care and just do what they want to do.

I play to win and i cant expect everyone else on my team to play the same way.. So if i feel im on a "losing" team ill switch.. when i say losing I mean a team that does not care if they win or not.. where everyone wants to get a little shinny badge, noone cares about taking Cp's. there just doing what they have to do to get there next rank or ribbon.. It's the best when i'm gold medal status on the server and i switch to the other team because well my team wont take any advice or actually "help" the team what so ever. Then they all complain about being raped and blah blah blah.. guess what if all of you didnt spawn sniper maybe you would have a decent team and win the match.

http://bf2s.com/player/45628790/

This is the type of guy I would like to play with: PLAY TO WIN, NOT PLAY FOR STATS.

Foxhoundmgw wrote:

As I got told that I haven't played the kit enough because I don't join the sniper chorus of 'we are the best' I can only suggest that most of you actually put more than (as an example) 25 hours into your 'second best kit' before saying other people are wrong.

Failing that, you could just accept the recurring statement, all the kits have strong points and weak points, a clueless plank will emphasize the weak, and an experienced/skilled player will emphasize the strong.

I do still however find it funny that people just turn around and say 'you haven't played x kit as long as me, you don't know shit', it's not like we'll have had squadmates using that kit, or fought against people using that kit, no, never, not a chance.

If there is one thing I've conclusively learned today about players of the sniper kit, and I've decided to stop trying to be agreeable about it, most of you don't give a shit about anyone elses opinion about 'your' kit or any other, no matter how much playtime they have under their belts, unless it's 100% the same as yours, and that most of you cry a lot when people paint a picture of any sniper, that doesn't show them as the heroic gods of the battlefield, choosing who lives and dies. Of course, a sniper never needs healing, or ammo, or the support of any other kit. Because they are that damn good.

And if you don't take kindly to that opinion, remember something, it's not that I think the sniper kit sucks, it's the players personality. Cry me a river.

Man you love to read your own writing don't you, eh?

For real though if you soo good then show us your stats....

I have nowt to hide, in fact i have all my experts the old-fashioned way, ie... outside of vehicles. I don't reckon "snipers are gods" just as keeps getting repeated over and over just one part of a complete picture. i reckon your 'first choice kit' ain't exactly shit-hot which is why you gotta try and bash others...

So pretty please with sugar on top, feck off back under your rock!!!!

Ps... Girlfriend? that's having a laugh.... What are you like 12? You definitely sound it...

Last edited by senor_fulff (2006-05-26 14:06:45)

JimKong wrote:

It never fails. When your team is losing on Sharqi, half of it will spawn as snipers...





.... and your team will lose even worse.

So true.

I once fell asleep while playing sniper (going for vet. badge and needed the hours).

EvilMonkeySlayer wrote:

Heh, I have a funny story about the accent.
When my brother went to Newcastle University he got told by a couple of Newcies that he had a strong accent!
This coming from people in Newcastle, that's like a man weighing 5tons saying to a thin guy "you're pretty fat, you".

Sure, there are people with the heavy accents but I don't consider myself having a overly heavy Yorkshire accent.

By eck laddy.

I don't got an accent, it's pretty cool. Cos someone always says 'you're not from nottingham are you?' and I say 'no' and that stops that =P

But yeah, A Geordie suggesting someone from Leeds has a broad accent is fanfuckingtastic.

Yeah im still wondering why people think hes good. Looks like a noob who wants to be good.

Foxhoundmgw wrote:

It's not a case of other people needing to stop ragging on snipers, it's that you should stop making snipers a target with the open affection you show for your favourite kit.

Well Put. I Believe that Maybe if these Snipers Stoped Bragging about themselves, then Maybe they'd Earn More Respect.
But Right Now, Snipers are just like " OMG WTF BS HAX I AM T3h Pwnag3 1337 H3adsh0t!!!1111!!!1one!"

Everything about snipers has been covered, and after reading ALL the posts, I've come to this...


It all depends on the player and what he's in the game for in the first place.

Also the mood/mindstate at the time... Sometimes I "feel" like sniping like an "assassin" where "the only thing that matters is the target" This means i may pick someone out of the crowd on the opposing team, usually high-ranked, and hunt them. Cat and mouse.

Other times (because I'm human and get bored periodically of doing the same repetitive things like tank whoring EVERY map) I like to run med, for the sole purpose of the guys on my team coming out of the round with less deaths than if I WASNT THERE. I like to make a difference in others' games, not for the rev-saves, or the points, just to know "I HELPED".

Hell, other times I play self-ish as hell, I steal kills, I focus on using shock-paddles, I Jihaad, I don't need to kill people with my piustol, but I do, and I do it out of spite, I weaken my enemy with my primary and finish them off with my pistol. Or, I'll camp as a sniper and rack up kills.

The biggest factor that determines my style of play is the team I am playing with, if they don't team/squad it up, then neither will I. I am a "Rambo-esque player" but I know how to lead a squad, if my squad-leader is shit. I leave it and start another and usually lead a squad to a cap 75% of the time for a rough estimate.


  All in all, its like i said, it depends on what your playing for, keep in mind some folks play a few minutes before work, or school, so its all about kills and/or points.

  Depending on my mood, its either about ME, or the TEAM.

   But, the ONLY time its ONLY ABOUT ME, is when I get the same feeling from my current team, if my team doesnt care, I don't care, I refuse to try and rally a team of people that JUST WANT TO SNIPE.

  The problem is we have too many people that want to play "Hero-Sniper" wich monopolizes the teams resources as far as taking out armor by having too many snipers, period.

  I know we need snipers, but like every other game, we just have too many.

  You need to know when the team needs a sniper, or a med, or...... you get the picture...

  And now, I sit here and edit, I've also come to this...its these badges/medals that screws things up, it makes folks FOCUS on badges/medals, instead of the round.... Doesn't it?

Last edited by Clockwork-Ownage (2006-05-27 00:38:14)

Nyte wrote:

xaven wrote:

Nyte wrote:

I mainly play as a Sniper (Depends on the team situation) and my W/L is higher than 90% of the people posting in here.

Hell, even my SPM is higher than most medics and support kits.

Not to mention my KPM destroys EVERY single person posting in this thread.

You people have fun worrying about your KDR, I'll go on and win the round with 30-10 while you lose with your awesome 15-0.


Owned?

you mean you are the reason for the win? well, I havent played against you. and I do not doubt your skill. when you run araound taking flags as a sniper and hit down people, ok. but most snipers lay on the predicted places and are easy targets or stay stand in front of you and try to place the clay while going down. well, sometimes I got hit by a sniper, but that doesnt prevent my to take the flag in a second attempt, because they never change their position.

"You mean you are the reason for the win?"
I don't want to sound boastful but yes, I am the reason for the win.

hmm.. I really doubt that. If so, you  play with unexperienced players only. Ok, but that may be public. I mainly play for competition and Ive never seen anybody going around as a sniper in a 4on4, 8on8 or 10on10. No reason to tell why.