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Bookkeeping. My bad.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Its got to be less challenging and stressful doing arts stuff, thats what makes it more fun.
Uzique The Lesser
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roc i don't know why you and dilbert try to double team and 'troll' me. you troll yourself. dilbert thinks you are intellectually inferior to him, on account of your race. you think you're both sniggering and 'punking' me by making stupid provocative comments, but elsewhere in this sub-forum dilbert is basically dismissing your entire race with a scientific contempt. about 30 minutes after he made that post he made a post about african americans being habitually violent and drug-addled. please, go quote and suck his dick some more. he'll be a real good friend and will guide you to the sterilization & euthanization clinic.

a real fine discriminatory mind, i'm sure you can see. the same guy who blanket hates all arts guides his superior intellect to the notion that all black people are genetically dumb and violent. you fucking mong.

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KEN-JENNINGS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

can we get some links to examples of western lawyers being killed and called 'enemies of the state', please? or journalists?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_C._Wales

I bet the arms industry sent out a hitman to silence him.
There's quite a few in Northern Ireland, and I can point you to a Chief Constable who woke up to find himself mysteriously dead

That and Israel doesn't hesitate to kill journalists, nor did the Bush regime.
The bush regime killed western journalists? Source please.
RTHKI
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Macbeth
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he is probably referring to that guy with accidentally blew up with the helicopter.
Ilocano
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Michelangelo, Leonardo, Raphael.  Such fine craftsmen.
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Ilocano wrote:

Michelangelo, Leonardo, Raphael.  Such fine craftsmen.
sculpture is not pottery.

by the way i'm pretty sure that the aesthetic framework that was laid down to determine 'fine art' and 'beauty' was all based on high renaissance examples. you really haven't done your reading. please shut the fuck up.

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Because people don't pay more for custom crafted ceramics and iron works for there home decor.   Yeah,  the aesthetic premium.
Uzique The Lesser
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you don't know what you're talking about thanks
Ilocano
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Plain kitchen ceramic $.50.  Hand painted custom tile $20 each.  Paying for function or aesthetics?
Uzique The Lesser
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yeah because decoration and adornment turns craft into high-art, doesn't it. i guess by that definition a cosmetically modified bmw stops being mere 'engineering' and becomes 'art' too. or a gun with an ivory gilt handle is a 'work of art'. right ok. look all the reading material is linked for you above. nobody is stopping you going and reading about 3 paragraphs, and not looking like a dumbass. you have the freedom. you have the power. i believe in you. you're asian. you have a naturally superior IQ. stop being so goddamn black about it.

oh and in the case of the 'hand painted custom tile', you named yourself what causes the inflation in value. what a dumbass. it's basic ricardian economics.

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Ilocano
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Cheap terracotta pot or hand painted china pot at my entryway?
Uzique The Lesser
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i could give a shit what you use to decorate your petit-bourgeoisie house. just know what the difference between art and craft is before you wade into a debate with your asinine remarks.
Ilocano
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Sistine chapel just a craft then...
Uzique The Lesser
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don't know if you checked, but the sistine chapel is a fresco. a fresco is a type of painting. painting has always been a high-art. the comment above stated that pottery, woodwork and metalwork were crafts. could you at least make some sense before you assume such an absurdly cocky tone.
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Macbeth wrote:

Bookkeeping. My bad.
A noble profession. Following in the footsteps of Einstein.
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There's a reason the tool company is Craftsman and not "Artisan". I've never met a woodworker/ironworker who would say it is a purely artistic endeavour. Some aspects may require creativity and be aesthetically pleasing, but in the end, that beautiful, ornate coffee table has utilitarian purpose. The whole "can art be functional?" thing is another debate, though.
Uzique The Lesser
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the thing that differentiates art from a craft is that the aesthetic criterion and artistic idea precedes the function of the work of art. in craft, its utility or sale-value always comes first. that's a gross reduction and simplification of the complex aesthetics and philosophy behind it, but you could just bear that simple distinction in mind. the sistine chapel has no function. it was not made to be sold. it was painted with an aesthetic idea of creation as its primary motivating purpose. this really is not difficult. even for petit-bourgeoisie furniture-displaying status-anxious asians to grasp. no, your wife's louis vuitton shoes are not works of art.
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So, no single ceramic, woodwork, metal work has ever been considered fine art?   Claudius Linossier?
Uzique The Lesser
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please. you come into this thread to cockily challenge what i say, when you haven't even read my posts on the topic. click back a few pages. shut the fuck up. if you weren't a mod, this sort of pointless dragging-out of an already-done discussion would be considered spamming, or flaming. being a mod doesn't excuse you from the requirement to actually read a discussion before you wade in with your own worthless 2 cents. go read. it's all there for you. i've been very kind. fare thee well.
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That's not what he's saying. This is a work of art made out of metal. It has no other purpose besides being a sculpture. Art is not explicitly defined by a medium.
Ilocano
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DesertFox- wrote:

That's not what he's saying. This is a work of art made out of metal. It has no other purpose besides being a sculpture. Art is not explicitly defined by a medium.
Finally someone got it.
DesertFox-
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Do I? I thought I was agreeing with Uzi.

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