BF2S Forums [SimCity] The new Sim City!

it appears to be fucking awful. tiny plots, the online shit that is a whole other topic, shit traffic routing and so on

happy i waited, and even happier i picked up SC4 for £2.50 a while ago.

oh it's a good game (probably), much in the same way AOE3 was a good game

the problem it has is it doesn't look like it holds a candle to previous SC's, much in the same way AOE3 doesn't hold a candle to 2

no subways in particular looks pretty terrible

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

two of my friends are swearing by the game and say they haven't had any issues at all.  I'm still unsure whether or not I'm going to buy.  Their opinion vs. the internets....

It's definitely fun. I'm glad I bought it and haven't had many issues with the servers really.

There's also a lot of different specializations your city can have, which should add variety

The issues right now are mostly centered around dumb AI pathing.

Rather than take the wide lanes, sims will take the shortest route possible. Even dirt road over street car.

The police will follow similar pathing, go to the nearest crime in progress. So you'll see all police station vehicles go to one crime and ignore all others.

If that sort of stuff is fixed in a patch the game will play great.

AussieReaper wrote:

The issues right now are mostly centered around dumb AI pathing.

Rather than take the wide lanes, sims will take the shortest route possible. Even dirt road over street car.

The police will follow similar pathing, go to the nearest crime in progress. So you'll see all police station vehicles go to one crime and ignore all others.

If that sort of stuff is fixed in a patch the game will play great.

I also hate the way it takes electricity time to "find" buildings after a power cut and the electricity packets seem to miss some for ages

bennisboy wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Shahter wrote:

always-on DRM. no, thanks.

why are people so adamantly opposed to this?

And of course they are going to add DLC as paid content.  That and microtransactions are the new gaming business model.

Part of sim city appeal was you could literally use it to kill time anywhere. The problem with always online DRM is that it inevitably inconveniences the people that buy the game, not the pirates who always find ways around it.

Also there is no need for sim city to have to be played online, it's perfectly fine offline

Oh and when EA inevitably shuts down the servers, no more sim city even though you bought the game

my points. thanks for answering for me.

Shahter wrote:

bennisboy wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

why are people so adamantly opposed to this?

And of course they are going to add DLC as paid content.  That and microtransactions are the new gaming business model.

Part of sim city appeal was you could literally use it to kill time anywhere. The problem with always online DRM is that it inevitably inconveniences the people that buy the game, not the pirates who always find ways around it.

Also there is no need for sim city to have to be played online, it's perfectly fine offline

Oh and when EA inevitably shuts down the servers, no more sim city even though you bought the game

my points. thanks for answering for me.

Another reason is that you are not really "buying" the game at all.  EA said they do a lot of the computing stuff on their servers, meaning that its literally physically impossible for the game to exist outside the internet.  They basically took one of the the most influential single player games ever made and turned it into an MMORTS

In fairness to programmers regarding pathing, in order to do something like google navigation where it directs you along the shortest path while taking traffic into account, it requires a set of updating differential equations in order to get it right. When you have tens of thousands of little sims all moving about, dynamic pathing becomes a nightmare to compute. It's much easier when the sim is spawned, to set it's destination via shortest x,y straight line than to account for road speed etc. Lazy programming, sure, but it's either that or older systems get bogged down and the game is unplayable.

The thing is, Jay, no one was asking for the "tens of thousands of people that you can follow all day".  If you read what the longtime Sims fans are saying, this new reboot incorporates things they did with the Sims 3 and shoehorned it into Simcity.  This really isn't a true sequel to Simcity 4, just as BF3 isn't really a true sequel to BF2.  That no doubt ate up a lot of time and energy when in there are other parts of the game that are gone completely.

I would have : Took simcity 4

Added new graphics/light/3d viewing system

Added dozens, maybe hundreds of new architecture styles

Included in the game the community fixes for simcity 4 (the route problem)

Maybe added some more realistic, real life mechanics, such as seaports/shipping

More ability to regulate/customize exactly which high rise buildings go where --

Added mixed use, commercial/residential development

etc. etc.  Maybe add more Tropico 4 political/social stuff, like union strikes, race wars, riots, etc.  It'd be fun to order the cops to go beat up protesters

Curvy roads are overrated.  There are ways to fix and improve on the existing road system without making it loop after loop like some 3rd graders art project. 

Eh, there's a whole world of possibilities out there.  Sadly I'm not a programmer.  But I think everyone agrees, they moved in the wrong direction.  Same with BF3.  Same with Dead Space 3.  Same with ME3.  God help us.

Last edited by Spearhead (2013-03-13 08:26:08)

Ok, as long as youre not defending it.  Weok.

Man, Godzilla hit my town and wiped out half my most expensive public buildings :'(