Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

Jay wrote:

Greek food in Queens is better than the Greek food I had in Greece last summer.
I think it's just your palate. It's like white people preferring chinese food they get in Chinatown restaurants rather than legit chinese food.
I was on the Greek isles and they have to import most of the stuff from the mainland. Food is just fresher here and tastes better.
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Cybargs
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

have any of you bastards tried arabic food yet?
there's tons of hajji kebab shops around where i live. everyone loves a kebab
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13urnzz
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

have any of you bastards tried arabic food yet?
i live in utah. the only black people here play for the local basketball team, and the brown people run when you say "La Migre!" too loud . . .
Jay
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

have any of you bastards tried arabic food yet?
Ya, in Iraq. Not since I've been home though. Rather rare outside of Bay Ridge area.
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the state food is lime jello with carrots. go figure. people wonder how polygamists thrived here? because it was culturaly isolated, and the only arabic food they've heard of is prolly jewish. the last supper is the only time another culture's food is even mentioned, and these bastards think their in the promised land.
Jay
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My grandma used to put canned peaches in green jello. I hated that shit.
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Dilbert_X
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

have any of you bastards tried arabic food yet?
Lebanese is good, apart from that Arabic food is basically a roasted sheep isn't it?
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AussieReaper
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Had Lebanese last night.

Fucking expensive restraunt. Charged like $10 for garlic bread.
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Macbeth
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They had to import it all the way from Italy.
AussieReaper
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Yeah.

Little Italy.
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13urnzz
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yeah.
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AussieReaper wrote:

Had Lebanese last night.

Fucking expensive restraunt. Charged like $10 for garlic bread.
I blame Gillard
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Mutantbear
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I randomly opened this thread and didnt even know what it was

People are talking about jello and mormons and 10$ garlic bread
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success!
Ty
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Tony Abbott has to learn about bills before he commits to scrapping them. Today Tony decided to tell people that despite his pledge to get rid of the carbon tax he would keep the parts that he liked, namely the part that says carbon emitters get compensation payments. Primarily this demonstrates a profound ignorance of the carbon tax legislation as well as a lack of knowledge about what a compensation payment is. It's difficult to outline the many reasons why this shouldn't make sense even in Tony's world where you can say anything you want without concern of the media calling you up on it but I'll have a shot anyway.

Point one is that the compensation payments come directly from the carbon tax revenue. If the tax gets thrown out but the payments remain this money will have to come from somewhere else. Where this somewhere else is can only be revealed through treasury policy costing, but of course the Coalition isn't exactly keen to get this done. Regardless I'm going to take an educated guess that wherever it comes from it won't be from industry, it will be from the public, because if there's one thing Tony stands for it's not taxing industry.

Point two is that without the tax there is no reason to make the payments. They are compensation payments. Nothing is being compensated. What is Tony just going to shell out money because he likes his industry friends? Share the love Tony, I reckon the rest of the Australian public would like your free "no reason, I just felt like being generous" money too, especially given that it's their money you're being generous with. 

Point three is that the amount of compensation given relates to how much of the tax a company pays which is in turn determined by how much carbon the company emits. Keeping the payments and getting rid of the tax is essentially saying "the more you pollute the more I'm going to pay you". Look, I'm not sure that the carbon tax is an effective tool of cutting emissions either but I'm pretty damn sure paying people to pollute isn't going to be very effective. There's getting rid of the carbon tax and then there's shitting on everything it stood for.

Point five is that if you remove the tax and keep the payments but work out a completely new way to determine them - which would be necessary - you may as well get rid of the whole thing and then create a law saying "Companies are legally entitled to meaningless payments from the Government." Which is all Tony's doing here anyway. Unfortunately for Tony the public would justifiably raise a sceptical eyebrow at this and he doesn't want pandering and bribery directed at industry bosses to have any negative impact on him in the polls. So he's trying to frame it within the controversial carbon tax legislation in the hope it will get ordinary people on-side, essentially hoping they will hear "scrap the carbon tax" and "compensation payments for struggling industry" and hear them as positives without connecting the dots.

Really though this again demonstrates exactly what sort of Prime Minister Tony Abbott would be. Equipped with an outstanding ignorance of issues, policy, and legislation while failing to be held to account, Tony would take your money and give it to his friends. But he doesn't have many friends and you're not one of them.
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Ty wrote:

this demonstrates a profound ignorance
This is your first time commenting on Australian politics then?
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Ty
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You know it's not but I do feel like I'm repeating myself a lot.
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Spark
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Ty wrote:

Tony Abbott has to learn about bills before he commits to scrapping them. Today Tony decided to tell people that despite his pledge to get rid of the carbon tax he would keep the parts that he liked, namely the part that says carbon emitters get compensation payments. Primarily this demonstrates a profound ignorance of the carbon tax legislation as well as a lack of knowledge about what a compensation payment is. It's difficult to outline the many reasons why this shouldn't make sense even in Tony's world where you can say anything you want without concern of the media calling you up on it but I'll have a shot anyway.

Point one is that the compensation payments come directly from the carbon tax revenue. If the tax gets thrown out but the payments remain this money will have to come from somewhere else. Where this somewhere else is can only be revealed through treasury policy costing, but of course the Coalition isn't exactly keen to get this done. Regardless I'm going to take an educated guess that wherever it comes from it won't be from industry, it will be from the public, because if there's one thing Tony stands for it's not taxing industry.

Point two is that without the tax there is no reason to make the payments. They are compensation payments. Nothing is being compensated. What is Tony just going to shell out money because he likes his industry friends? Share the love Tony, I reckon the rest of the Australian public would like your free "no reason, I just felt like being generous" money too, especially given that it's their money you're being generous with. 

Point three is that the amount of compensation given relates to how much of the tax a company pays which is in turn determined by how much carbon the company emits. Keeping the payments and getting rid of the tax is essentially saying "the more you pollute the more I'm going to pay you". Look, I'm not sure that the carbon tax is an effective tool of cutting emissions either but I'm pretty damn sure paying people to pollute isn't going to be very effective. There's getting rid of the carbon tax and then there's shitting on everything it stood for.

Point five is that if you remove the tax and keep the payments but work out a completely new way to determine them - which would be necessary - you may as well get rid of the whole thing and then create a law saying "Companies are legally entitled to meaningless payments from the Government." Which is all Tony's doing here anyway. Unfortunately for Tony the public would justifiably raise a sceptical eyebrow at this and he doesn't want pandering and bribery directed at industry bosses to have any negative impact on him in the polls. So he's trying to frame it within the controversial carbon tax legislation in the hope it will get ordinary people on-side, essentially hoping they will hear "scrap the carbon tax" and "compensation payments for struggling industry" and hear them as positives without connecting the dots.

Really though this again demonstrates exactly what sort of Prime Minister Tony Abbott would be. Equipped with an outstanding ignorance of issues, policy, and legislation while failing to be held to account, Tony would take your money and give it to his friends. But he doesn't have many friends and you're not one of them.
I still think some of the predictions I read about an Abbott victory - before a loss in a double dissolution election a year later, hence making him the PM who served for the least time before getting dumped - are pretty good. He has shown zero aptitude in the actual "running the country" bit of politics as opposed to the politics bit.
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Jaekus
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I find it amusing that the people harping on about Gillard being the worst PM in Australian history are almost aggressively ignorant to how the country will likely be run should Abbott become PM. It's like they're so blinded by hate they do not even begin to consider the obvious consequence should she lose the election.
Spark
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Look, Gillard has been appallingly poor politician since getting the job. Appallingly poor. Sure, much of the media has a vendetta against her but she hasn't helped herself by making politically idiotic decisions time after time. But she's actually gotten quite a lot of useful things done (odd things like fixing our carbon price to the European scheme, the hilarious mining tax and the Newstart bullshit aside), which surely is more important.
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AussieReaper
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Nobody can tell me what Abbott offers.


And a policy of "stop the boats" makes me want to punch him, every time he runs through his stupid list.
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RTHKI
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but can he drive
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Jay
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Does he lift?
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-Frederick Bastiat
Spark
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+874|6978|Canberra, AUS
It's not that surprising. The born-to-rule mentality is pretty ingrained within the Liberal Party. They view their job is to get into power and then work out what they need to do - their pathological hatred of anything ALP is so ingrained that they think that just being in power is enough.

Which is a pretty vomit-worthy attitude when you look at it from the outside but there you go.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Dilbert_X
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I dunno, the ALP approach - get into power and not work out what to do - doesn't seem a good one either.

Meanwhile, stay classy NSW Police

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