Dilbert_X
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

I don't think the government should be able to say who can and cannot marry.
Brother and sister?
Father and daughter?
Man and goat?

You really think this stuff through don't you?
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

This argument is more suited to pro-choice and gay marriage than it is gun control. Do you support the rights of pregnant women and love between homosexual couples?

I have no qualms with a mature, experienced person handling an AR-15. But for someone who can't even legally buy beer? lol, no. Even then I still haven't seen any argument that supports the need to own one. Handguns? Discreet self-defence. Shotguns? Home defence. Hunting rifles? Obvious. Assault rifles? Because they're fun... lol. Go to a shooting range.

Also, saying there isn't a need for gun control is just silly. You're seeing it in this simple, idealistic world where everything is black and white rather than along a continuum.
I am pro-life.

I don't think the government should be able to say who can and cannot marry. If the couple happens to be homosexual that's not my place to say whether they should or shouldn't get married. cause freedom that's why

What do you define the "rights" of a pregnant woman as?

In my opinion if you want to buy a firearm, you should be able to purchase any type as long as you consent to a background check of mental health and criminal history. If you have been mentally unstable or ill or if you have violent criminal history you should not be allowed to purchase a weapon. "Because they're fun" is a perfect reason to own an assault rifle. A honda civic? Convenient, a Mitsubishi evu? cool, an f350 pickup? convenient, a lamburghini? because it's fun...

Your argument against owning an assault rifle having to be a NECESSITY to justify owning one is ridiculous. In the name of what? Less violent crime? I could go out and kill people with a handgun, shotgun, or hunting rifle.
So you are for some form of regulation... also you need a license to drive a car, like your example, so why is it so hard to need one for a gun.
Jaekus
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Mode of transport =/= weapon designed to kill.

Why do I need to define the rights of a pregnant woman? Define why your pro-life stance should say if a woman can or cannot have an abortion? It's her body. This is the argument you are using for gun control, about something you consider to be a toy.
Dilbert_X
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Sh1fty wrote:

In my opinion if you want to buy a firearm, you should be able to purchase any type as long as you consent to a background check of mental health and criminal history.
Because everyone has a criminal record or mental health history before they commit their first crime right?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I don't think the government should be able to say who can and cannot marry.
Brother and sister?
Father and daughter?
Man and goat?

You really think this stuff through don't you?
No I just don't state the obvious because that shit is...obvious.

I meant gay, straight, polygamy...

fucks sake Dilbert, give me a little credit, man
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Dilbert_X
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So polygamy is OK but incest isn't?

Who are you to judge others?
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Shifty is all for letting someone destroy other peoples families and lives, once, if they get caught, before saying, "Hey, thats not a good idea."
-Sh1fty-
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Jaekus wrote:

Mode of transport =/= weapon designed to kill.

Why do I need to define the rights of a pregnant woman? Define why your pro-life stance should say if a woman can or cannot have an abortion? It's her body. This is the argument you are using for gun control, about something you consider to be a toy.
Her body is host to another body who has rights as well. She can do whatever the fuck she wants with her body as long as it doesn't harm the baby inside her. That's how I feel about it.

Also cars kill more people than guns do so...yeah. Besides most people own guns for fun. They might say it's for self defense, but in reality they're more likely to go out shooting with friends than kill an intruder. The chances of the latter are slim but that depends on the neighborhood, but its still a good reason to own one.



who wants to get on TS or something where we can actually talk? I feel like you'd all feel a lot less angry with me if we could talk it out on TS


edit: oh ok guys lets not sell ANYBODY a weapon because even though their record is clean they MIGHT hurt somebody with it. On second thought, lets do the same with cars and cigarrettes. hahaha you guys

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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Her body is host to another body who has rights as well. She can do whatever the fuck she wants with her body as long as it doesn't harm the baby inside her.
but your constitution says otherwise.
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Dilbert_X
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I think Sh1fty is all for the govt letting him do what he wants to do but preventing others doing what he judges to be 'wrong'.

So he's a typical 'conservative'.
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Cybargs wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Her body is host to another body who has rights as well. She can do whatever the fuck she wants with her body as long as it doesn't harm the baby inside her.
but your constitution says otherwise.
really? where?
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

edit: oh ok guys lets not sell ANYBODY a weapon because even though their record is clean they MIGHT hurt somebody with it. On second thought, lets do the same with cars and cigarrettes. hahaha you guys
Totally what was said... actually, what was said cannot even be misconstrued as that, unlike the examples given for almost everything you have typed.
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Her body is host to another body who has rights as well. She can do whatever the fuck she wants with her body as long as it doesn't harm the baby inside her.
but your constitution says otherwise.
really? where?
9th and 14th amendment. oh snap bitch you don't agree with the constitution when it doesn't apply to your morals. ever heard of roe vs wade?
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The 2nd amendment is the only one that is real.
Cybargs
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-Whiteroom- wrote:

The 2nd amendment is the only one that is real.
and the only real one to prevent tyranny! especially against those pro abortion communist atheists!
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true question about shifty's life is, what if he finds out that the two main authors of the constitution disliked Christianity?
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Cybargs wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


but your constitution says otherwise.
really? where?
9th and 14th amendment. oh snap bitch you don't agree with the constitution when it doesn't apply to your morals. ever heard of roe vs wade?
Yeah that was back in 1973. Oh shit wait let me apply the same logic to that which a few of you have used. The Constitution Roe vs. Wade is 200 40 years old so lets just disregard that shitty paper right? Actually no, if it's law there isn't anything I can do except vote against it. I wasn't aware that was in the Constitution as an Amendment I thought it was just some federal law.

dang it's 1.42 talk later guys, night
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^

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-Whiteroom- wrote:

^
it's so funny that it hurts
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Dilbert_X
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Yeah that was back in 1973. Oh shit wait let me apply the same logic to that which a few of you have used. The Constitution Roe vs. Wade is 200 40 years old so lets just disregard that shitty paper right? Actually no, if it's law there isn't anything I can do except vote against it. I wasn't aware that was in the Constitution as an Amendment I thought it was just some federal law.
Good luck voting against the constution.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Yeah that was back in 1973. Oh shit wait let me apply the same logic to that which a few of you have used. The Constitution Roe vs. Wade is 200 40 years old so lets just disregard that shitty paper right? Actually no, if it's law there isn't anything I can do except vote against it. I wasn't aware that was in the Constitution as an Amendment I thought it was just some federal law.
Good luck voting against the constution.
shifty is so unamerican he hates the constitution!

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Oh shit! Thats great! would karma again.
Jaekus
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Actually no, if it's law there isn't anything I can do except vote against it.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

The Constitution of the United States is to be considered a freaking sacred Bible by which to run the country.
You're one confused lad.
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You are taking what he said out of context Jaek, stop twisting those words.
Jaekus
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If you're going to argue against gun control to such an extent by which you "The Constitution of the United States is to be considered a freaking sacred Bible by which to run the country" you can't turn around later and say you'll vote against the parts you disagree with. That's just inconsistent with the hard line you've been taking.

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