Jaekus
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Shocking wrote:

13rin wrote:

what would you all say if he was a muslim rather than a mormon?

*ps repo... "trickle down" is a fallacy/made up term used by the left in an attempt to discredit Reagan kicking ass.
Depends on what muslim denomination he would be part of and how important his faith would be to him.

It's just great how people are able to acknowledge the gazillion different christian denominations but ignore all of the muslim ones. It's all just one brand of 'evil turban people' I guess.
Don't let education get in the way of religious intolerance.
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What are you looking at dicknose
AussieReaper
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You didn't build that is hilarious in that it was taken so out of context.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Spark
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wasn't it something completely obvious like you didn't build the roads in front of your business or something?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Ty
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Barack Obama wrote:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
I think it's a good point to make, particularly in a culture that is very individualised. Poor strategy on Obama's part to offer the sound bite "If you've got a business you didn't build that".
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Ty wrote:

Barack Obama wrote:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
I think it's a good point to make, particularly in a culture that is very individualised. Poor strategy on Obama's part to offer the sound bite "If you've got a business you didn't build that".
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FEOS
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AussieReaper wrote:

You didn't build that is hilarious in that it was taken so out of context.
Just like "47%". Being out of context never stopped anyone from running with something...or people from buying it.
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FEOS wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

You didn't build that is hilarious in that it was taken so out of context.
Just like "47%". Being out of context never stopped anyone from running with something...or people from buying it.
and how, pray tell, was 47% taken out of context? that rmoney wrote them off, or that they are deadbeats looking for nothing but a government handout?
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6774|Noizyland

Even Romney himself hasn't argued that the 47% comments were taken out of context. Because they weren't and he knew that.

Mitt Romney on his 47% comments wrote:

"Clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."
It takes guts to admit you were wrong, especially in a tight political campaign. I respect Romney for that. That doesn't take away from his comments though.
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Reciprocity
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Spark wrote:

wasn't it something completely obvious like you didn't build the roads in front of your business or something?
yes, but conservatives are fucking retards so they made it one of their retard memes.
AussieReaper
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13urnzz wrote:

FEOS wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

You didn't build that is hilarious in that it was taken so out of context.
Just like "47%". Being out of context never stopped anyone from running with something...or people from buying it.
and how, pray tell, was 47% taken out of context? that rmoney wrote them off, or that they are deadbeats looking for nothing but a government handout?
Even Romney said I was wrong, not "out of context"

Want some other straws to grasp for Feos?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
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He is dynamic and taken out of context. That is all.
FEOS
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13urnzz wrote:

FEOS wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

You didn't build that is hilarious in that it was taken so out of context.
Just like "47%". Being out of context never stopped anyone from running with something...or people from buying it.
and how, pray tell, was 47% taken out of context? that rmoney wrote them off, or that they are deadbeats looking for nothing but a government handout?
He was talking about election strategy and where he and his team needed to focus their efforts. The 47% were the ones he was never going to sway in the election...which is exactly what he said. He never said he was "writing them off" from a governance perspective. But that didn't stop knuckleheads from running with that "context" which was not the context of the statement. Hence "out of context."

He said he was wrong because that was the only thing that was going to get the hounds off his back. He explained clearly what the true context was, and that was ignored, because it was more fun to keep pushing the "he doesn't care about po' people" line, and that particular spin put it right in that vein.

But let's not try to be objective and apply the same rules to both sides. That would just expose too much hypocrisy.
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Reciprocity
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lol, strategy.
Ty
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FEOS wrote:

13urnzz wrote:

FEOS wrote:


Just like "47%". Being out of context never stopped anyone from running with something...or people from buying it.
and how, pray tell, was 47% taken out of context? that rmoney wrote them off, or that they are deadbeats looking for nothing but a government handout?
He was talking about election strategy and where he and his team needed to focus their efforts. The 47% were the ones he was never going to sway in the election...which is exactly what he said. He never said he was "writing them off" from a governance perspective. But that didn't stop knuckleheads from running with that "context" which was not the context of the statement. Hence "out of context."

He said he was wrong because that was the only thing that was going to get the hounds off his back. He explained clearly what the true context was, and that was ignored, because it was more fun to keep pushing the "he doesn't care about po' people" line, and that particular spin put it right in that vein.

But let's not try to be objective and apply the same rules to both sides. That would just expose too much hypocrisy.

Mitt Romney wrote:

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... My job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
I like doing this. I don't have to argue anything, Mitt speaks for himself.
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Jaekus
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lol, objective.
Reciprocity
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you're taking those 118 words entirely out of context.
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Reciprocity wrote:

you're taking those 118 words entirely out of context.

am i missing sarcasm tags there or...?
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Shahter wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

you're taking those 118 words entirely out of context.

am i missing sarcasm tags there or...?
I'd say there is a 118% chance that he is being sarcastic.
AussieReaper
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Taken out of context this looks pretty bad too


https://i.imgur.com/AKk0C.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Ty
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When I search Mitt Romney on Youtube the first result I get is an ad promoting Mormonism. I imagine that if he is elected the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints will be wringing every little bit of validation they can out of him. That's kind of concerning.

So is this. It's an issue that's kind of been burning along in the background for a while now, I can remember it was present in some form during the Bush years, before then I wasn't really politically aware enough to take notice. It seems to be increasing in its prevalence, this manipulating and legislating to ensure that as many people who might vote against you are forbidden from voting. Surely whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, left or right, this sort of carry-on should be abhorrent.
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A lot of that hasn't quite come to pass tbf, a few of the higher profile laws have been struck down, modified or suspended until after the election.
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FEOS
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Ty wrote:

FEOS wrote:

13urnzz wrote:


and how, pray tell, was 47% taken out of context? that rmoney wrote them off, or that they are deadbeats looking for nothing but a government handout?
He was talking about election strategy and where he and his team needed to focus their efforts. The 47% were the ones he was never going to sway in the election...which is exactly what he said. He never said he was "writing them off" from a governance perspective. But that didn't stop knuckleheads from running with that "context" which was not the context of the statement. Hence "out of context."

He said he was wrong because that was the only thing that was going to get the hounds off his back. He explained clearly what the true context was, and that was ignored, because it was more fun to keep pushing the "he doesn't care about po' people" line, and that particular spin put it right in that vein.

But let's not try to be objective and apply the same rules to both sides. That would just expose too much hypocrisy.

Mitt Romney wrote:

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... My job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
I like doing this. I don't have to argue anything, Mitt speaks for himself.
The polls were showing 47% "definitely" for Obama at the time. That is what he was referring to. He never said he wouldn't work for them if elected, which is what all you knuckleheads here have been saying he said. He never said that. Anywhere. Anytime.

So yes...it DOES speak for itself. It totally eliminates the argument that "Romney doesn't care about 47% of America."

If you would, please point out where he says that. Please point out where my argument is invalid.

Oh that's right. You can't.

Let me know when you guys are ready for your next lesson.
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