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Yep, and neither seems to understand the NFA process or the effects of an AWB.west-phoenix-az wrote:
Both these fuckers hate my AKs
I think Obama will try for a ban
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He's not saying it isn't important, he's saying there are more important issues than your guns.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
You'd be surprised how important it is to a lot of people here
Then why spend (waste) time and resources making laws to ban/restrict them?Camm wrote:
He's not saying it isn't important, he's saying there are more important issues than your guns.
He can't vote.AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane, who are you voting for and why Romney?
who would you vote for and why?AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane, who are you voting for and why Romney?
I'd be disappointed with Obama but vote for him.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
who would you vote for and why?AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane, who are you voting for and why Romney?
Sounds like the Libertarian Party.AussieReaper wrote:
Yep.
Gotta cancel out the crazy vote.
Should the GOP lose, they either move toward the centre, or further right. Which do you think they'll do?
They used to be a credible party. Embracing the tea party "Obama is a Muslim" extreme is utterly pathetic. As is the birther movement.
Gimme a GOP that cares about fiscal conservatism, hold the nuts, thanks.
Gary Johnson wrote:
America’s challenges and the crises we face demand a real debate — not dueling Phil Donahue acts carping at one another over who is worse.
I defy anyone who watched the debate to identify a plan from either the Republican or Democrat that will achieve a balanced budget. Behind the fuzzy math and the quibbling, there was nothing more than a commitment to continue the status quo — with at most a few minor adjustments. We don’t need adjustments. We need a fundamental reduction in the role and cost of government, and both Romney and Obama are fundamentally big-government guys.
We watched a blame game over immigration, while the problem festers with no solution in sight. We heard quibbling over whose government plan would have saved GM better, but nothing about why the government should be bailing out any company at all. And we heard cheap shots about government -run health care from two candidates who both support it. Where is the reasonable argument that government shouldn’t be running health care in the first place?
On the attacks in Libya, the debate we must have is not over what we call it or when; we need a debate over why we were there at all.
There are clear choices in this election, but they weren’t on the stage tonight.
Penn Jillette wrote:
“The only difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama is killing more people. He’s about double the numbers now. Can you imagine if McCain had won and did precisely what Obama has done, with every speech and every political maneuver overseas? There’d be riots in the streets about the people we’re killing. And yet because it’s Obama, and he’s better looking and better at reading the teleprompter, we let him get away with it.”
when were they a credible party?AussieReaper wrote:
Yep.
Gotta cancel out the crazy vote.
Should the GOP lose, they either move toward the centre, or further right. Which do you think they'll do?
They used to be a credible party. Embracing the tea party "Obama is a Muslim" extreme is utterly pathetic. As is the birther movement.
Gimme a GOP that cares about fiscal conservatism, hold the nuts, thanks.
Worth noting that AR may be used to a electoral paradigm where not voting for someone (anyone) is a pretty big deal, and a much bigger call than actually voting for someone.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
so you'd vote for Obama because the republicans don't deserve the vote? Or in other words, you'd vote against the republicans for being too socially/religiously conservative?
when they governed by the consent of the people, not the fringe base of the primaries.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
when were they a credible party?AussieReaper wrote:
Yep.
Gotta cancel out the crazy vote.
Should the GOP lose, they either move toward the centre, or further right. Which do you think they'll do?
They used to be a credible party. Embracing the tea party "Obama is a Muslim" extreme is utterly pathetic. As is the birther movement.
Gimme a GOP that cares about fiscal conservatism, hold the nuts, thanks.
I agree that not voting for someone is a big deal. He wouldn't have to vote for obama, especially as a 'lesser of two evils'. Its a cop out response. If you don't agree with a two party system as it currently stands then why vote either or?Spark wrote:
Worth noting that AR may be used to a electoral paradigm where not voting for someone (anyone) is a pretty big deal, and a much bigger call than actually voting for someone.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
so you'd vote for Obama because the republicans don't deserve the vote? Or in other words, you'd vote against the republicans for being too socially/religiously conservative?
lol no. I understand that the government offers safety nets to people, the libertarian concept of an ever smaller government is backwards for many reasons.Jay wrote:
Sounds like the Libertarian Party.AussieReaper wrote:
Yep.
Gotta cancel out the crazy vote.
Should the GOP lose, they either move toward the centre, or further right. Which do you think they'll do?
They used to be a credible party. Embracing the tea party "Obama is a Muslim" extreme is utterly pathetic. As is the birther movement.
Gimme a GOP that cares about fiscal conservatism, hold the nuts, thanks.
well, it's your lucky day! i am not advocating pie in the sky and i don't vote a straight ticket. i want a federal budget passed and i blame congress, both democrats and republicans for not getting it done.Jay wrote:
Burnz, the only people I ever hear talking about bipartisanship are democrats crying about not being able to pass their pie in the sky visions.
i disagree with you. it's ok though, you're young enough to think you know everything, and old enough to think you've seen everything.Jay wrote:
You are advocating a vision of a time that never existed, sorry. The country has been hyperpartisan since its founding.
this, but if I could vote it'd either be Gary Johnson or Obama. I don't think Romney would be any worse at fixing our economy than Obama, but socially he's just way too unacceptable for me. Obama's not the greatest social liberal either, but he's a fucking shitload better than Romney and the party of psychotic individuals who guide their decisions based on a book.Macbeth wrote:
He can't vote.AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane, who are you voting for and why Romney?
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