Dauntless
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Jay wrote:

Ok, fair enough. You still will never convince me to buy a hatchback. I'm 1.9m tall and the thought of squeezing into one doesn't appeal to me. The fact that almost all of my male friends are the same height as me doesn't work in their favor either.
They're not hard to fit into at all, i'm 6 foot 3 and I don't have any problems fitting into my friends hatchbacks, also my first car was a Seat Ibiza and I didn't have any trouble getting into that.

I think I know what you mean though, i'm not all that crazy about how they look either and probably won't be buying another one anytime soon
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DrunkFace wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

That's definitely one of the cooler hatchbacks I've ever seen(the Volvo not whatever the fuck is directly above this post) but most hatchbacks are just cheap little mass-marketed cramped cars that don't have anything amazing about them other than having the small car benefit of being light and zippy.  I do like all the new Fiats in those commercials though.  It's like it takes a genuine European brand to get sporty hatchbacks right, there's a reason all you Euros like them after all, it's probably because your brands make them better, lol

The Focus is like the most boring car ever but the Ford dealership is absolutely overflowing with those and some Tauruses sprinkled in for people that want a real car.
American Focus.. yes boring as fuck.

Everywhere else Focus... very good car which is not boring as fuck.
That's mine on top but in black.

I think you'd like the new Focuses (Focii??) we have in the US. I would have gladly bought the Focus ST if I could have afforded it...

e: j you honestly believe the focus is the most boring car ever? the toyota camry just called.

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Jay
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PrivateVendetta wrote:

Why do you guys like Trucks so much? They make no sense. Yuo only have SUV's to protect you from other people in SUV's
I don't understand pickup trucks in the city personally, and they're rather rare anyway unless the owner is a plumber or something. As for SUV's, they're roomy and comfortable and allow you a higher line of sight while driving.

My first car was a camaro where I basically sat on the ground while driving it and I loved it (it technically fit the definition of a hatchback too btw). My wife prefers to be able to sit higher and see everything around her (she's 5'2"). Most guys around here seem to drive sedans. Most women seem to drive SUV's. Maybe it's marketing, I dunno.
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Camm
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Jay wrote:

Camm wrote:

But seriously Jay if you think hatchbacks are for poor people you are an ego-sensitive imbecile.
Why do Euros like hatchbacks so much? Could it be because your gas prices have been manipulated to such an outrageous extent that you care more about fuel prices than anything else when making your car decisions? You like hatchbacks because you're used to them, and they've been the dominant form of car transport since you were a kid, yes?
Why do yanks like gas-guzzling SUVs so much? Is it because you've waged illegal wars on oil rich countries to artificially keep the price of petrol low for several decades?
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
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Dauntless wrote:

Jay wrote:

Ok, fair enough. You still will never convince me to buy a hatchback. I'm 1.9m tall and the thought of squeezing into one doesn't appeal to me. The fact that almost all of my male friends are the same height as me doesn't work in their favor either.
They're not hard to fit into at all, i'm 6 foot 3 and I don't have any problems fitting into my friends hatchbacks, also my first car was a Seat Ibiza and I didn't have any trouble getting into that.

I think I know what you mean though, i'm not all that crazy about how they look either and probably won't be buying another one anytime soon
Right, but would you want anyone at all in the backseat while you were driving one?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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Camm wrote:

Jay wrote:

Camm wrote:

But seriously Jay if you think hatchbacks are for poor people you are an ego-sensitive imbecile.
Why do Euros like hatchbacks so much? Could it be because your gas prices have been manipulated to such an outrageous extent that you care more about fuel prices than anything else when making your car decisions? You like hatchbacks because you're used to them, and they've been the dominant form of car transport since you were a kid, yes?
Why do yanks like gas-guzzling SUVs so much? Is it because you've waged illegal wars on oil rich countries to artificially keep the price of petrol low for several decades?
They're super comfy and yes it's because we have relatively cheap fuel. If we paid what you guys pay the only folks with SUVs would be those in very snowy areas and people who actually need the space or towing power.
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Camm wrote:

Jay wrote:

Camm wrote:

But seriously Jay if you think hatchbacks are for poor people you are an ego-sensitive imbecile.
Why do Euros like hatchbacks so much? Could it be because your gas prices have been manipulated to such an outrageous extent that you care more about fuel prices than anything else when making your car decisions? You like hatchbacks because you're used to them, and they've been the dominant form of car transport since you were a kid, yes?
Why do yanks like gas-guzzling SUVs so much? Is it because you've waged illegal wars on oil rich countries to artificially keep the price of petrol low for several decades?
Oh right, because oil isn't sold on the world market in exchanges to everyone at the exact same price...
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-Frederick Bastiat
_j5689_
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

j you honestly believe the focus is the most boring car ever? the toyota camry just called.
Not literally the most boring car ever but it's definitely up there on the list and the Corolla is way more boring than the Camry.  Just about every Honda and Toyota out seem boring to me.  After driving a Lexus one night I have a lot more respect for them though, that thing was buttery smooth

Domestics have a lot more character than Japanese imports when they stick to their own designs, it's one of the reasons I love my car because it sticks to the very old-fashioned American design of being a gigantic comfy six-seating V8 sedan.

Even if I ever change up, I think I'll still be sticking with full-size domestic sedans; I didn't really like the boosted up, disconnected floaty feeling my friend's F-150 Raptor has and all these little cars just don't fit me that well.  I naturally have a very thick, wide frame and I feel somewhat cramped in anything smaller than a full-size sedan or truck.
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Jay wrote:

-Whiteroom- wrote:

Macbeth wrote:


What the fuck are you talking about?!
hes an idiot and obsessed with what people think of your bank account.
Yeah, completely obsessed.
Sure you are, the last quote was just one of many that you have made, one of the lesser too. You value money over and above everything else, you are fat, greedy and a know it all. ie. shit.
Jay
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-Whiteroom- wrote:

Jay wrote:

-Whiteroom- wrote:


hes an idiot and obsessed with what people think of your bank account.
Yeah, completely obsessed.
Sure you are, the last quote was just one of many that you have made, one of the lesser too. You value money over and above everything else, you are fat, greedy and a know it all. ie. shit.
Lol ok.
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Jay wrote:

Dauntless wrote:

Jay wrote:

Ok, fair enough. You still will never convince me to buy a hatchback. I'm 1.9m tall and the thought of squeezing into one doesn't appeal to me. The fact that almost all of my male friends are the same height as me doesn't work in their favor either.
They're not hard to fit into at all, i'm 6 foot 3 and I don't have any problems fitting into my friends hatchbacks, also my first car was a Seat Ibiza and I didn't have any trouble getting into that.

I think I know what you mean though, i'm not all that crazy about how they look either and probably won't be buying another one anytime soon
Right, but would you want anyone at all in the backseat while you were driving one?
Like PV said they come in 5 door as well as 3 door so you can still have basically the legroom as a saloon (sedan).
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Jay wrote:

-Whiteroom- wrote:

Jay wrote:


Yeah, completely obsessed.
Sure you are, the last quote was just one of many that you have made, one of the lesser too. You value money over and above everything else, you are fat, greedy and a know it all. ie. shit.
Lol ok.
Kinda true though. Like boasting about your wife spending summer in the Hamptons
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
Jay
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Camm wrote:

Jay wrote:

-Whiteroom- wrote:

Sure you are, the last quote was just one of many that you have made, one of the lesser too. You value money over and above everything else, you are fat, greedy and a know it all. ie. shit.
Lol ok.
Kinda true though. Like boasting about your wife spending summer in the Hamptons
I was expressing the opinion that Americans tend to share. It's why cars like these are used for comic relief in movies and shows:

https://www.americandebtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jesses-new-ride.jpg
(that caption is hilariously provided by a website devoted to telling people that debt is bad)

or this:

https://blog.elmejorcoche.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/waynes_world_pacer.jpg

If I really cared what people thought about my car I'd drive a BMW or something.


When I was a kid, my mom had one of these:
https://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/12/CC-69-072-800.jpg

Such a hideous contraption. I'm just scarred by 1980s econobox shitcars that were an over-response to the oil crisis of the 70s. There's a reason that American cars have become steadily bigger and faster since the 80s, it's what people want. They hated those cars.

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Jay wrote:

Camm wrote:

Jay wrote:


Lol ok.
Kinda true though. Like boasting about your wife spending summer in the Hamptons
I was expressing the opinion that Americans tend to share. It's why cars like these are used for comic relief in movies and shows:


(that caption is hilariously provided by a website devoted to telling people that debt is bad)

or this:



If I really cared what people thought about my car I'd drive a BMW or something.
Jay, fuck man, I actually agree with you in this case, but pointing to two cars in the entire history of film and calling them representative of the whole is just not right.
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Pochsy wrote:

Jay wrote:

Camm wrote:


Kinda true though. Like boasting about your wife spending summer in the Hamptons
I was expressing the opinion that Americans tend to share. It's why cars like these are used for comic relief in movies and shows:


(that caption is hilariously provided by a website devoted to telling people that debt is bad)

or this:



If I really cared what people thought about my car I'd drive a BMW or something.
Jay, fuck man, I actually agree with you in this case, but pointing to two cars in the entire history of film and calling them representative of the whole is just not right.
The only movie I can think of that actually glorified small cars was The Italian Job that coincided with the North American launch of the Mini Cooper.
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-Frederick Bastiat
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Jay
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From the terrible Ashton Kutcher movie Just Married:

https://www.dvd.net.au/movies/j/07931-1.jpg

I can't find a screencap, but I was thinking of the car Skank stole in The Crow too.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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-Whiteroom-
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It's funny that these are the hatchbacks you use for examples, and not say, an impreza, A3, that volvo one or even a golf... There are no old sedans out there apparently.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/28/hatc … nt-buy-em/

I'll just throw this out there. Seems making fun of them doesn't affect sales.
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Jay wrote:

Camm wrote:

But seriously Jay if you think hatchbacks are for poor people you are an ego-sensitive imbecile.
Why do Euros like hatchbacks so much? Could it be because your gas prices have been manipulated to such an outrageous extent that you care more about fuel prices than anything else when making your car decisions? You like hatchbacks because you're used to them, and they've been the dominant form of car transport since you were a kid, yes?
it's because our cities are older and more narrow. our roads are older and more windy. america is the land of 6-lane freeways and cities built into neat geometric blocks. america has no pavements. to get anywhere in america you need a car. all your shops are part of a giant, generic, concrete sprawl (outside of main urban areas, that is). in europe our city planning is more... condensed. that's why all your cars are giant pieces of shit that handle terribly on corners and spend 80% of their time sat guzzling petrol at a standstill. plus in europe we are more up-to-date with concerns of fuel economy and environmentalism, yeah.

but the biggest reason is because we don't tie our cars to our penis-size like americans do. we haven't been spoonfed the ford-esque "buy a hotrod and get the hot girl" marketing for 60 years. europe have always viewed cars simply as tools, mostly. america views cars as symbols. your own posts here are evidence of that. most of the posh/rich dudes i know here drive tiny little mini's and coupes and those tidy alfa romeos. golfs and small audis are also really popular. my first car was a bmw 1-series. we are happy with small cars. we don't feel 'poor' cause we're not all driving around in pickups trucks. we're not fucking stupid, basically. if you live in the inner city and you only use your car to get groceries, why would you want an SUV?

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Jay
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Pochsy wrote:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/28/hatc … nt-buy-em/

I'll just throw this out there. Seems making fun of them doesn't affect sales.
Right, but those are still entry level cars.
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aynrandroolz wrote:

but the biggest reason is because we don't tie our cars to our penis-size like americans do.
pfff Most Americans do but I like my cars how I like my girls. Small, cheap, and Asian.
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Jay wrote:

Pochsy wrote:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/28/hatc … nt-buy-em/

I'll just throw this out there. Seems making fun of them doesn't affect sales.
Right, but those are still entry level cars.
I entirely do not follow. You're going to have to explain what relevance that statement has.
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